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*Official 2020 Election Thread*

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8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yes, it's convenient that I believe in Democracy and the will of the people.  

Well you clearly don't believe in the vision of America that the founders put together. They knew the EC was essential for avoiding mob rule. 

And if you want to take a glance at an electoral map, you'll see that the majority of the United States feel differently than you. 

The will of the people in 10 states shouldn't outweigh the will of the people in the other 40. 

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9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If you want democracy then you ought to move somewhere with that form of government.   

This.

36 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Joe has nothing to do with this.  The progressives and Bernie Bros came out for him.  Now their coming for whats due.  His old a$$ will cave in a heartbeat.  Did you hear him in the interview describing his cabinet and advisors?  Basically, when he jumps they will tell him how high.

Also, 100% this.

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15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If you want democracy then you ought to move somewhere with that form of government.   

Succinct and spot on.  

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17 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

The man said it himself. He would not want to serve a third term being "The Guy" but he would happily call the shots from behind the scenes. 

There isn't a better situation than Joe Biden being "The Guy" for Obama to sit back and be a shot caller.  :dunno:

 

You're not supposed to believe what they say bro. Come on man. 

Like when Joe said they had the largest most bestest ever voter fraud organization. Pfffft ....we won't even discuss that.  

Or the other night when he said if him and Camela disagree,  he'll just get a deadly virus and resign. ..pffft... dont look.

You're just a conspiracy theorist to listen to their words. Come on man. 

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35 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yes, it's convenient that I believe in Democracy and the will of the people.  

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all".

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59 minutes ago, drobeski said:

You're not supposed to believe what they say bro. Come on man. 

Like when Joe said they had the largest most bestest ever voter fraud organization. Pfffft ....we won't even discuss that.  

Or the other night when he said if him and Camela disagree,  he'll just get a deadly virus and resign. ..pffft... dont look.

You're just a conspiracy theorist to listen to their words. Come on man. 

Right? 

Everybody knows Joe was supposed to say they had put together the most comprehensive voter fraud "prevention"organization in history, then he focked up with the Freudian slip.

But, hey, Joe's old. He's not letting the cat out of the bag, he's just misspeaking. He's a doddering old fool that the people wanted to be President, fair and square. 

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59 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all".

He’s too focking stupid to know the type of government he lives in or the difference between the two.  

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22 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Right? 

Everybody knows Joe was supposed to say they had put together the most comprehensive voter fraud "prevention"organization in history, then he focked up with the Freudian slip.

But, hey, Joe's old. He's not letting the cat out of the bag, he's just misspeaking. He's a doddering old fool that the people wanted to be President, fair and square. 

Why would he need a great voter fraud organization? Widespread voter fraud is impossible I’ve been told. 

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14 minutes ago, Boots11234 said:

He’s too focking stupid to know the type of government he lives in or the difference between the two.  

Yet he wants to radically transform it, because it has served us so poorly all this time.  They are foolish children with zero grasp on reality. Radically transform it for what? More genders? Wouid love to hear what Honcho hopes to accomplish if the “will of the people” is adhered to. But it will just be crickets, guaranteed. Couldn’t articulate it if he had to.  Wiling to swallow any form of stupidity aslong as it’s opposite of OMB and his voters.  

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why would he need a great voter fraud organization? Widespread voter fraud is impossible I’ve been told. 

Clearly, their fraud prevention measures were successful and resulted in zero fraud. Hence a two time loser as a  presidential candidate got an all time record number of legitimate votes. Third time's the charm.

Duh. Logic much?

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18 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

President Trump just started speaking to large crowd in Georgia.

Didn’t anyone tell Trump he lost the second recount?

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11 minutes ago, MDC said:

Didn’t anyone tell Trump he lost the second recount?

He said just a bit ago to stop recounting and do signature verifications.

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8 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Debunked via Twitter?  Wut?  Are you serious?

Anyone who uses social media as a "source" for anything is simply misguided at best and ignorant at worst.  Social media is one of the main reasons we are where we are today.  You're better than this.

 

4 hours ago, drobeski said:

 

Seems there’s a double standard here. 

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9 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Debunked via Twitter?  Wut?  Are you serious?

Anyone who uses social media as a "source" for anything is simply misguided at best and ignorant at worst.  Social media is one of the main reasons we are where we are today.  You're better than this.

I one thousand percent disagree with this. Social media is SAVING this nation and keeping it together.  It is the exact opposite.  The #1 way to generate strife and hatred is to CUT OFF communication.  The way to create harmony is the free exchange of ideas.  Social media creates a free exchange of ideas.  It is absolutely essential.  I think we all know this instinctively.  For example, in the Cold War, we created radio broadcasts beamed into the USSR, because communicating with the people of Russia was universally understood to be a positive way to calm tensions.  The USSR tried to block radio signals because they wanted to increase tensions and hatred.

And we even see this on the internet today.  The left wing seeks to generate hatred and division, and on their websites and platforms, they enforce strict guidelines on speech for forbid taboo subjects, outright ban people, label posts as incorrect, and now on places like Yahoo! they just completely shut down all forums and communication comes only in the form of approved opinion pieces written by their hired writers.  The right wing websites and platforms encourage open and free communication and those places enjoy much more mature and reasoned discussion.

We need to actively fight against the notion that these social media platforms should be done away with.  You are pretty much a communist if you think that way.

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27 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I doubt mine matches up

Well there it is, the proof we needed there was no fraud. Thanks man. 

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Here is one of you allies, Trumpers.

Roger Stone claims North Korea boated in votes for Biden ‘through a harbour in Maine’

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Appearing on far-right radio programme  The Alex Jones Show, Mr Stones claimed that there was “incontrovertible evidence” that the votes were brought into the US through Maine. He didn’t present any himself.  

"I just learned of absolute incontrovertible evidence of North Korean boats delivering ballots through a harbour in Maine, the state of Maine," he said.  

"If this checks out if law enforcement looked into that and it turned out to be true, it would be proof of foreign involvement in the election," said Mr Stone who was granted clemency by President Trump in July this year, after being found guilty of lying to Congress and intimidating witnesses during an investigation into election interference.  

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

When the filibuster is gone and democracy is finally instituted, what do you hope happens? What changes are you hoping for? 

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Because everybody knows, it's far easier for North Koreans to get to the east coast of the United States. LOL

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1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

Because everybody knows, it's far easier for North Koreans to get to the east coast of the United States. LOL

They already got the east coast of the US in case you haven't been paying attention.

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Wiffle is having a very tough time coming to grips with the  fraud. The end of the innocence.  Poor kid. 

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/06/politics/geoff-duncan-trump-georgia-rally-cnntv/index.html

Georgia's Republican lieutenant governor says Trump's spread of "mountains of misinformation" hurting the party's election chances.

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"I worry that this continuous you know fanning of the flames around misinformation puts us in a negative position with regards to the January 5 runoff," Duncan told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union." "The mountains of misinformation are not helping the process, they're only hurting it. And Jake, I worry we are handing off a playbook to the Democrats for January 5 and certainly I can't think of a worse playbook to hand off over the last four or five weeks to the Democrats."

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Just now, Rusty Syringes said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/06/politics/geoff-duncan-trump-georgia-rally-cnntv/index.html

Georgia's Republican lieutenant governor says Trump's spread of "mountains of misinformation" hurting the party's election chances.

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Tape don’t lie. 

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Oh, and here's something for those of you who claim no violence has come from the far right:

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-member-threatens-armed-revolt-outside-giuliani-meeting-not-going-stand-back-stand-1551261

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Since the group's founding in 2016, several Proud Boys members have been convicted of violent crimes in their efforts to fight the left and support Trump's conservative agenda. 

 

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On 12/4/2020 at 4:23 PM, OldMaid said:

See, I knew you’d get around to blaming the judges, since they were next in line. Try not to be so predictable. And now Barr has apparently been compromised as well, I suppose.

Listen, I get that it feels good to feel like you’re on to something that no one else can see. It’s one of the reasons conspiracy theories gain traction. But when the majority of officials and experts agree on something, it is probably true. 

Oh of course, the old herd immunity argument. Has anyone achieved that yet? I just read that Sweden is still no where close and their economy only fared slightly better than that of it’s neighbors. So hit me up when you can find an instance of that working out.

Testing and contract tracing would have avoided having to shut down larger areas and instead concentrate on where the outbreaks were occurring. Of course it was never meant to be a solution. Merely a stop gap until we could roll out a vaccine.

This is one of my favorite comments in this thread.

What Old Maid addresses here is the same kind of mindset among the conspiracy theorists who are anti-vaxxers, think COVID is no big deal or believe the Earth is flat, and somehow mankind has conspired to cover it up, even though it doesn't make a lick of sense, seeing as it would take a whole world of nations that hate each other to cooperate on this one thing to hold together the conspiracy.

They'll engage in throwing out all kinds of misinformation and gish-galloping, which attempts create so many dead-end rabbit holes in order to derail the debate's main point.

The second Trump claims there is no way Biden got 80 million votes, his believers quickly parrot that information without a single shred of evidence to back it up.

Sure, it is likely there were isolated election shenanigans in this race, but no evidence supports the theory that Biden stole the election.

Those continuing to clutch on the baloney notion that he did will only find themselves further detached from reality.

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I'm all about finding fraud, but I'm really skeptical on this one.  There's no way these are the same people. These have to be dopplegangers.  

 

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Florida Republican Attorney encourages voter fraud.

Bill Price, a Panama City-based attorney, was captured on Facebook Live instructing a group of Bay County GOP members how to temporarily move to Georgia to cast ballots in the January 5th Senate runoff election. He repeats his brother’s Georgia address for them several times, and details his plan to use it to vote in January.

The now-deleted video was captured in full by Channel 2 Investigative Reporter Nicole Carr.

Price, who denied he was being serious in the speech, then registered to vote in Georgia using his brother’s Paulding County address, and signed to an affidavit that he was a permanent Georgia resident and eligible to vote. The registration is in pending status, and the elections board is set to kick the registration out of the system during a special-called meeting next week. The man’s brother’s address has been flagged as investigators probe whether others at the meeting attempted to register in Georgia.

 

Looks like Drobe and Company are right...got to watch out for voter fraud!

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47 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

Oh, and here's something for those of you who claim no violence has come from the far right:

https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-member-threatens-armed-revolt-outside-giuliani-meeting-not-going-stand-back-stand-1551261

 

PB's don't start the violence. They're just better at it than those antifa qweers. Don't start none, won't be none. 

 

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55 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said:

At 55%, Biden would have the lowest approval rating of any democrat entering office on record.

Obama was notable for having the LOWEST peak approval rating of any democrat president.  At his peak, only 69% approved of Obama.  What's interesting is every new democrat president sets a lower peak. 

Truman: 87%
Kennedy: 83%
LBJ: 79%
Carter: 75%
Clinton: 73%
Obama: 69%

Complete records were not kept for presidents before Truman.

its another data point on the overall trend of loss of trust in America. 

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