plasma george 52 Posted November 7, 2020 $200 money League, pot almost $3,000. Father is 2-6, Son is 4-4. Father already commented his team sucks and he's close to "FireSale Time". Father is trading Mahommes for Burrows, L. Bell and Ridley. Father RBs are Aaron Jones and Fournette, WR are Kupp, E. Sanders, Landry. I can't take this to the League, I'm pretty sure they will freak. I NEVER veto trades, unless it's an End of season Firesale. These two are putting me in a tough spot. I can guarantee if I approve it, the League will freak and maybe some threaten to quit, blaming me for not Vetoing. If I show them all your guys advice, that may settle the situation, since you're all neutral. Thanks fellas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,040 Posted November 7, 2020 Obvious collusion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted November 7, 2020 Think the son is making a mistake, but I have no problem with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,800 Posted November 7, 2020 Yeah this doesn’t seem that bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 403 Posted November 7, 2020 I don't know, it's not the best trade in the world, I mean I wouldn't trade Mahomes for those guys, but it's not that far off. Ridley is a top 5 WR in my league, and Burrow is a borderline QB1 and definitely a good streamer, Leveon Bell, he's a potential flex play if not, good depth at RB. I know it's Mahomes, but it's not that terrible of a deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 132 Posted November 7, 2020 Everyone preaches that QBs are so deep you should never trade anything of value for them, then whine if someone trades for a QB... deal seems fine, would you worry of they weren't related? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boilerddd 62 Posted November 7, 2020 Seems like the magical Mahomes factor didn't translate into wins for the father, so what's the big deal about him downgrading his QB slot by maybe 5 pts per game on average. It's not like the son didn't pay up for this trade. Burrows last 3 games for my league scoring is 22, 39, 19. Mahomes 21, 13, 40. I'll bet that 13 pt performance by Mahomes didn't help dad's season much. I'd say the trade was fine if it was Burrow and Ridley for Mahomes, Bell may make it uneven toward the son paying too much IMO. If dad get's a healthy Ridley soon, he's easily a top 10 wr. He's currently WR 4 in my standard league. This includes getting 0 pts somehow week 4 and leaving the game very early week 8! I'd take a chance on that... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted November 7, 2020 Relatives or not, this is the definition of a fair and equitable trade. As some mentioned, the kid might actually be slightly getting the worse end of it. Dad gets a downgrade at QB but receives a very serviceable one in return, immediate help at WR with a ROS top-5 guy, and as icing on the cake, a flex RB with upside in the event of a CEH injury. Mahomie for Burrow.....not cool. Mahomie for Burrow, Ridley, and Bell....cool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted November 7, 2020 Great points gents after it was 3/4 posts here, I approved it i actually feel bad challenging it , both were texting why it’s fair BTW The son has Dalvin Cook I crafted Barkley and Dak, so I’m pretty neutral observer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaChup 154 Posted November 7, 2020 I would trade Mahommes for just about anybody. Never heard of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 491 Posted November 7, 2020 Agree with everyone here. I wouldn't do it myself. But I wouldn't object to stopping it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted November 7, 2020 I don’t think this is very egregious if it’s not a QB heavy league. If you start 2 QBs then this is very bad. That being said, “not very egregious” could still very well be collusion. Burrow, Bell, and Ridley aren’t saving his season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 559 Posted November 7, 2020 19 hours ago, plasma george said: I can't take this to the League, I'm pretty sure they will freak. If I show them all your guys advice, that may settle the situation, since you're all neutral. Just curious. Did showing them the input from this thread settle the situation, or did some of them still freak ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted November 7, 2020 The father is in a fire sale, but he just ripped off his son. That's not exactly what I'd call collusion. I'm willing to bet that the father ends up with a better record than his son. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 7, 2020 Is it a dynasty league. Keepers? Anyway , daddy just schooled his son. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted November 8, 2020 8 hours ago, easilyscan said: Just curious. Did showing them the input from this thread settle the situation, or did some of them still freak ? I took the early responses and then approved, it justified my decision to myself thanks all Surprisingly No one complained i feel bad challenging it and overthinking it I’ll bring this back later in the season ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted November 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, plasma george said: I took the early responses and then approved, it justified my decision to myself thanks all Surprisingly No one complained i feel bad challenging it and overthinking it I’ll bring this back later in the season ! Yes please do, i would like to see how both those teams turn out. Thanks for the thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted November 8, 2020 Here’s another point with this Trade Burrows is on a Bye, and Ridley is likely out So the Father gave away Mahomes for Leveon for his lineup this weekend He loses he’s 2-7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,800 Posted November 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, plasma george said: Here’s another point with this Trade Burrows is on a Bye, and Ridley is likely out So the Father gave away Mahomes for Leveon for his lineup this weekend He loses he’s 2-7 We didn’t know Ridley was going to be out until today. Mahomes hasn’t had his bye yet and he’s a lot harder to replace with a fill-in than Burrow So moot point IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 5:12 PM, plasma george said: $200 money League, pot almost $3,000. Father is 2-6, Son is 4-4. Father already commented his team sucks and he's close to "FireSale Time". Father is trading Mahommes for Burrows, L. Bell and Ridley. Father RBs are Aaron Jones and Fournette, WR are Kupp, E. Sanders, Landry. I can't take this to the League, I'm pretty sure they will freak. I NEVER veto trades, unless it's an End of season Firesale. These two are putting me in a tough spot. I can guarantee if I approve it, the League will freak and maybe some threaten to quit, blaming me for not Vetoing. If I show them all your guys advice, that may settle the situation, since you're all neutral. Thanks fellas. i know a lot of comments already.... If this is a keeper/dynasty league, the trade is totally fair. its a deal of present value vs future value to some extent. id be a bit concerned about it if it were a redraft but even then, Jones and fournette as the only rb's not exactly a lot of depth there. I'd argue Ridley stabilizes some subpar WR play hes likely had already as well. so even in a redraft, this isnt THAT terrible. certainly not veto level terrible. To that end, allowing the trade was the right call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted November 10, 2020 The problem is that it has the appearance of collusion. Joe Biden and his son Hunter clearly colluded in this trade and so..........oh wait, nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedzoneMonster 102 Posted November 10, 2020 Does the Father have a 2nd QB already other than Mahomes prior to the trade? What are the fathers WRs prior to the trade? If I were a Mahomes owner and needed WR I would trade Mahomes for Burrow and Ridley no problem. Getting Bell just a minor bonus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,040 Posted November 10, 2020 Including Bell is what makes it lopsided. Receiving Burrow and Ridley would be my minimum asking price just to hold Leveon Bell on my team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted November 16, 2020 i don't see anything wrong with this trade. you also didnt tell us what the QB scoring format is so it's pretty hard to truly say, but on it's face, I think the son is overpaying for Mahomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites