Mask Mandate

[Brad GLuckman 519]

The anti-mask crowd continues to just baffle me. What an odd thing to get all worked up about. Here's a new report that cloth masks protect the person wearing it, as well as others.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/11/933903848/wear-masks-to-protect-yourself-from-the-coronavirus-not-only-others-cdc-stresses

 

[edjr 6,579]

1 hour ago, Brad GLuckman said:

The anti-mask crowd continues to just baffle me. What an odd thing to get all worked up about. Here's a new report that cloth masks protect the person wearing it, as well as others.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/11/933903848/wear-masks-to-protect-yourself-from-the-coronavirus-not-only-others-cdc-stresses

 

I'm with you. Cdumb and his ilk are just r-tards. I don't like it, but I do it when required.

[Cdub100 3,870]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

I'm with you. Cdumb and his ilk are just r-tards. I don't like it, but I do it when required.

First masks don't work

Then masks protects others

Now masks protect you

Yeah sure okay. Must have been some huge scientific break through these past couple of months. Who knew we could have stopped all viruses centuries ago just by wearing a face diaper. 

1900 - I bet in the future we'll have nanobots to fight infections.

2020 - put a diaper on your face 

 

Eta - since you finally found ONE study that says wearing a face diaper keeps you safe you go right ahead. No need to worry about what Im wearing.

[Big Guy 1,412]

1st of all.....I'm NOT wearing a mask, and secondly, I sure as hell ain't dating a man!

[Gladiators 1,965]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

I'm with you. Cdumb and his ilk are just r-tards. I don't like it, but I do it when required.

He was referring to wearing masks, not sucking cawk.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

First masks don't work

Then masks protects others

Now masks protect you

Yeah sure okay. Must have been some huge scientific break through these past couple of months. Who knew we could have stopped all viruses centuries ago just by wearing a face diaper. 

1900 - I bet in the future we'll have nanobots to fight infections.

2020 - put a diaper on your face 

 

Eta - since you finally found ONE study that says wearing a face diaper keeps you safe you go right ahead. No need to worry about what Im wearing.

I'm sorry but you're either not smart or you're brainwashed.

There is plenty of evidence of how masks are effective in slowly the spread of viruses.  Here is one link but I know you won't even read it: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

The use of "Face Diaper" shows your disdain and your unwillingness to follow some simple rules.

And I'm not saying that a mask works 100%.  Different masks work differently, how you wear it, all that stuff.  But if it helps stop 10% of virus transmission, that's a good thing and could help stop the spread.  Plus it's common courtesy and following rules.  Your lack of respect for rules and others makes you a bad person.  Eat my turds.

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

2 million dead was worse case scenario going by the CDC

Now, 250K worse case scenario. 

This is a ruse. Not the virus itself but fake outrage on this new lower bar of worse case scenario. 

 

 

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I'm sorry but you're either not smart or you're brainwashed.

There is plenty of evidence of how masks are effective in slowly the spread of viruses.  Here is one link but I know you won't even read it: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

The use of "Face Diaper" shows your disdain and your unwillingness to follow some simple rules.

And I'm not saying that a mask works 100%.  Different masks work differently, how you wear it, all that stuff.  But if it helps stop 10% of virus transmission, that's a good thing and could help stop the spread.  Plus it's common courtesy and following rules.  Your lack of respect for rules and others makes you a bad person.  Eat my turds.

Did you read any of the numerous scientific studies. Once I read those, some by the CDC I was convinced it did not work. Fauci was correct initially when he said do not wear the mask in March. Think it's Sweden and China who are not wearing them. They should be getting decimated going off your 10% theory. They are not. It does not work.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

2 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

Did you read any of the numerous scientific studies. Once I read those, some by the CDC I was convinced it did not work. Fauci was correct initially when he said do not wear the mask in March. Think it's Sweden and China who are not wearing them. They should be getting decimated going off your 10% theory. They are not. It does not work.

Here in China, I'd say 40-60% of people are wearing them. This is now.

Back in March, it was 100% without exception. And there were very few people out at all anyway.

[Cdub100 3,870]

3 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

Did you read any of the numerous scientific studies. Once I read those, some by the CDC I was convinced it did not work. Fauci was correct initially when he said do not wear the mask in March. Think it's Sweden and China who are not wearing them. They should be getting decimated going off your 10% theory. They are not. It does not work.

He didn't read sh1t. You can tell because he tries to use social pressure, not actual science to back him his worthless claim

[Cdub100 3,870]

1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Here in China, I'd say 40-60% of people are wearing them. This is now.

Back in March, it was 100% without exception. And there were very few people out at all anyway.

It's close to 100% here in Michigan. People wear them while driving, alone in their car.

People weren't out either back in March april. I remember going for a drive down a road that was normally very busy. Very few cars out. Hell they broke the cannonball record this year due to so many people staying home.

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

4 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Here in China, I'd say 40-60% of people are wearing them. This is now.

Back in March, it was 100% without exception. And there were very few people out at all anyway.

That is a huge discrepancy. So 60% in China could be wearing the mask. Or, they could not be? Ok. Thanks for that data point..meh. 

[Reality 3,121]

For the most part, people are wearing masks out in public, it's not stopping the virus from spreading.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

14 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

Did you read any of the numerous scientific studies. Once I read those, some by the CDC I was convinced it did not work. Fauci was correct initially when he said do not wear the mask in March. Think it's Sweden and China who are not wearing them. They should be getting decimated going off your 10% theory. They are not. It does not work.

Yes I have, and it convinced me that they provide a level of protection.  You need to get off the works/doesn't work.  It's not binary.  Think of it like this, without a mask I'm spewing 100 virus cells in every breath, with a mask I'm spewing 50 virus cells in every breath.  The criteria is not work/doesn't work, it's help.

Maybe a picture will be good for you, here is a video: 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

14 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

He didn't read sh1t. You can tell because he tries to use social pressure, not actual science to back him his worthless claim

No it's actual science that shows that less virus is spewed while wearing a mask.  Now kindly gargle my balls.

[TimHauck 2,665]

48 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

First masks don't work

Then masks protects others

Pretty sure it was never "masks don't work."  The early statement was you don't need them BECAUSE they're more for people that were sick, and at the time the entire country had like less than 100 cases (it was also not known about the potential for presymptomatic/asymptomatic transmission).

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 minutes ago, Reality said:

For the most part, people are wearing masks out in public, it's not stopping the virus from spreading.  

Well we don't know this.  We can assume it's helping stop the spread because the science tells us it should, but we cannot conduct an experiment for logistical and ethical reasons, obviously.

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yes I have, and it convinced me that they provide a level of protection.  You need to get off the works/doesn't work.  It's not binary.  Think of it like this, without a mask I'm spewing 100 virus cells in every breath, with a mask I'm spewing 50 virus cells in every breath.  The criteria is not work/doesn't work, it's help.

Maybe a picture will be good for you, here is a video: 

 

You can't see the virus with the human eye. The mask will slow down projectile vommit and snot but it's not stopping the virus. And if someone has the virus wearing a mask they are wearing a grease trap on their face full of virus according to your theory.

[Mike Honcho 5,230]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yes I have, and it convinced me that they provide a level of protection.  You need to get off the works/doesn't work.  It's not binary.  Think of it like this, without a mask I'm spewing 100 virus cells in every breath, with a mask I'm spewing 50 virus cells in every breath.  The criteria is not work/doesn't work, it's help.

Maybe a picture will be good for you, here is a video: 

 

You should be able to relate to this scene...

 

 

[Mike Honcho 5,230]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

First masks don't work

 

Yeah, that's why they've been used in hospitals and OR's for decades, because they don't work. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, that's why they've been used in hospitals and OR's for decades, because they don't work. 

Oh crap. Hospitals have had the chinese flu for decades? 

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

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1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, that's why they've been used in hospitals and OR's for decades, because they don't work. 

Not for viruses. To stop germs, bacteria which are larger particles.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

You can't see the virus with the human eye. The mask will slow down projectile vommit and snot but it's not stopping the virus. And if someone has the virus wearing a mask they are wearing a grease trap on their face full of virus according to your theory.

As you can see in the video, the respitory droplets being spewed are less while wearing different types of masks.  These droplets contain covid virus, if the person is covid positive.  So wearing the mask will actually slow the spread of the virus.  Get it?

Now 98% of the time it's bullshit, because only a small portion of the population is actually infected and they don't know it, but that's the science behind it.  Argue the science and you're a retard.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

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Not for viruses. To stop germs, bacteria which are larger particles.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

[Fireballer 2,641]

Somebody please link to any studies PRE Covid that outlines the effectiveness of cloth masks. Thanks

[Hawkeye21 2,388]

Cdub has said numerous times how masks don’t work and that they lead to more sickness. He keeps saying that almost 100% of the people in his area are wearing masks.  He then brags about how he doesn’t know anyone who has had COVID.  I live in an area where most people do not wear masks.  Everything has been open and people have been doing what they want.  We have some of the highest infection rates in the country. It sounds like Cdub has been giving us a prime example of how masks just might work.

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

As you can see in the video, the respitory droplets being spewed are less while wearing different types of masks.  These droplets contain covid virus, if the person is covid positive.  So wearing the mask will actually slow the spread of the virus.  Get it?

Now 98% of the time it's bullshit, because only a small portion of the population is actually infected and they don't know it, but that's the science behind it.  Argue the science and you're a retard.

If you believe it works wear it. I believe 70% in this country are financially feeble minded. I choose not to follow them on just about every issue. It has served me extremely well taking that position and I will continue to do so. You know what's even better than masks. Not being obese. Still waiting on those stats showing how many obese died of covid. Most of the deaths I have seen have been obese people. Athletes and generally healthy are not dying enough to even matter.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

If you believe it works wear it. I believe 70% in this country are financially feeble minded. I choose not to follow them on just about every issue. It has served me extremely well taking that position and I will continue to do so. You know what's even better than masks. Not being obese. Still waiting on those stats showing how many obese died of covid. Most of the deaths I have seen have been obese people. Athletes and generally healthy are not dying enough to even matter.

Well now you're changing the subject, but I absolutely agree with you.  If you're healthy, then this virus has little impact on you, absolutely, the data and the science proves that.

But back to masks, yes, they do reduce the spread, and yes, don't be fat, and stay away from people, and exercise, all that, yes.

[Cdub100 3,870]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Cdub has said numerous times how masks don’t work and that they lead to more sickness. He keeps saying that almost 100% of the people in his area are wearing masks.  He then brags about how he doesn’t know anyone who has had COVID.  I live in an area where most people do not wear masks.  Everything has been open and people have been doing what they want.  We have some of the highest infection rates in the country. It sounds like Cdub has been giving us a prime example of how masks just might work.

You left out the part where I live in a Michigan county with some of the highest infection rates and we are about to get shut down again.

Don't be a dishonest kunt.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Cdub has said numerous times how masks don’t work and that they lead to more sickness. He keeps saying that almost 100% of the people in his area are wearing masks.  He then brags about how he doesn’t know anyone who has had COVID.  I live in an area where most people do not wear masks.  Everything has been open and people have been doing what they want.  We have some of the highest infection rates in the country. It sounds like Cdub has been giving us a prime example of how masks just might work.

I feel bad for people like cdub that are so brainwashed by social media and talking heads that they spread this misinformation like it's fact.  Sad.

[Cdub100 3,870]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

I feel bad for people like cdub that are so brainwashed by social media and talking heads that they spread this misinformation like it's fact.  Sad.

Wear your face diaper. I literally don't care. 

[Cdub100 3,870]

11 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

If you believe it works wear it. I believe 70% in this country are financially feeble minded. I choose not to follow them on just about every issue. It has served me extremely well taking that position and I will continue to do so. You know what's even better than masks. Not being obese. Still waiting on those stats showing how many obese died of covid. Most of the deaths I have seen have been obese people. Athletes and generally healthy are not dying enough to even matter.

I've had this same conversation a half dozen times. I've backed up my stance wth multiple scientific peer-reviewed data. The mask wears just keep saying it works.

If it worked my county wouldn't be exploding with new infections yet here we are.

If you want to wear a mask go ahead I don't care hell you even have a new study that says masks protects you. So go ahead just leave me the fock alone.

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well now you're changing the subject, but I absolutely agree with you.  If you're healthy, then this virus has little impact on you, absolutely, the data and the science proves that.

But back to masks, yes, they do reduce the spread, and yes, don't be fat, and stay away from people, and exercise, all that, yes.

If we sounded the alarms and blasted general quarters, general quarters for all those who are obese we would save a hell of a lot more lives. Not only related to covid, but more importantly the #1 killer; heart disease.

But I am a retard for saying everyone is focusing on the wrong problem entirely if the goal is to truly save lives...meh. It's clear to me the goal is not to save the most lives. Crystal clear in fact. 

[vuduchile 1,945]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I've had this same conversation a half dozen times. I've backed up my stance wth multiple scientific peer-reviewed data. The mask wears just keep saying it works.

If it worked my county wouldn't be exploding with new infections yet here we are.

I'm curious about this too.  If masks are so effective, why are cases across MI spiking?  I see masks literally everywhere I go.  My son's basketball team is playing games with masks.  Both sons wear masks all day in school.  We wear them at the grocery store, the convenience store, on the sidelines at outdoor football games.  Never in our lives have we ever worn masks en masse like this.  

The numbers simply don't add up.  

[FlyinHeadlock 459]

1 minute ago, vuduchile said:

I'm curious about this too.  If masks are so effective, why are cases across MI spiking?  I see masks literally everywhere I go.  My son's basketball team is playing games with masks.  Both sons wear masks all day in school.  We wear them at the grocery store, the convenience store, on the sidelines at outdoor football games.  Never in our lives have we ever worn masks en masse like this.  

The numbers simply don't add up.  

Oh, they do add up. Look at the states with these draconian covid laws. All financially busted, even before the virus. Easiest way to refill the coffers is with Federal dollars. This will be one of the first measures passed if he gets in. Massive redistribution of wealth to these failing cities.

[Cdub100 3,870]

47 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

I'm curious about this too.  If masks are so effective, why are cases across MI spiking?  I see masks literally everywhere I go.  My son's basketball team is playing games with masks.  Both sons wear masks all day in school.  We wear them at the grocery store, the convenience store, on the sidelines at outdoor football games.  Never in our lives have we ever worn masks en masse like this.  

The numbers simply don't add up.  

For masks to be effective they have to be worn properly. Part of that is disposing of a mask after wearing it. You also can't touch your face and you're supposed to be in a controlled environment. Even doing all that mask offer little to no protection. The are worn to protect the wear from breathing in or ingesting blood and other fluids from patients not to stop viruses. 

In the general public masks are not worn properly at all. People don't dispose of them, people are constantly touching their face.

Virus thrive in CO2 environments wearing a mask reduces your oxygen intake they also create a moist area for bacteria and other germs/viruses to collect next to the most vulnerable parts of your body to those infections.

The mask mandate here in Michigan went into effect at the end of June. Go look at the infection rate time line. Not a week after the mandate our declining infection rate shot back up and have stayed high and steady since.

Mask wearers can get focked.

[5-Points 3,437]

If masks and lockdowns are so effective, why haven't we historically mandated both during cold and flu season? Think of the lives we could've saved. 

 

[listen2me 23 1,840]

November 7th lori lightfootmayor of Chicago is outside with I dont know 100 200 people all packed together celebrating a Biden "win".   This is on her twitter.

Yesterday she puts in place a Chicago lockdown starting the 16th and says shouldnt do a traditional Thanksgiving.

Cant make this stuff up.  

Same with the DC mayor putting Delaware on the high risk travel ban then  going against it herself and going to Delaware to celebrate a Biden "victory".  

I mean if the Lefty leaders could at least drop the hypocrisy then maybe they could be some what believable.

[Reality 3,121]

Rules for thee not for me.

[5-Points 3,437]

I have to wear one for work. So I bought one of these

 

I cut it in half to make two so I could throw one in the wash and have one to wear. Totally useless for virus protection but the perforation allows for easier breathing.