Atheists: How stupid are people really?

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8 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

Have another drink wormsy. 

Atheism and alcoholism

At least 100 studies suggests religion has a positive effect on preventing alcohol-related problems, researchers Christopher Ellison, Jennifer Barrett and Benjamin Moulton noted in an article in the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion on “Gender, Marital Status, and Alcohol Behavior: The Neglected Role of Religion.”^[26]

Atheists and atheistic cultures often have significant problems with excess alcohol usage (For more information please see: Atheism and alcoholism).

Atheism, alcoholism and anger

Atheism, alcoholism and anger

Is this supposed to be some sort of proof that god exists?

I don’t doubt that the belief in god could have a positive impact on people’s life.  But that doesn’t mean god himself is actually doing anything about it.

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s a constant theme around here. Like I’ve said before, people like to feel smarter then others. 

only one I have ever wanted to feel smarter than was fake doctor

 

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11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

only one I have ever wanted to feel smarter than was fake doctor

 

You win! 

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20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is this supposed to be some sort of proof that god exists?

 

No. I'm just talking about the atheists and in this case their patterns.

There is a whole other thread about calling religious folks stupid.

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6 hours ago, tanatastic said:

Your sole reason for belief is “billions of others believe in it so it must be true and my parents told me it was.”. My reasons for not believing...logic, fact, reality, evolution, the way things are, common sense, physics, a mountain of other things that make divine or supernatural claims indesputably impossible. 

Does mind bring matter into existence, or does matter self-organize into mind?  

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I have family on both sides DEEPLY religious. One side (my brother) didn't allow his kids at my home because I wasn't. We had a conversation years ago in my garage that led to fists. ( Didn't talk for years after that ) My niece and nephew's father didn't allow them at my home their entire childhood for the same reason. They are all adults now ( Deeply religious )  spend lots of time with there aunt and uncle now because they realize lack of believing what they do doesn't make us evil. They all are PISSED with their parents for keeping them from us as children. 

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So how do atheists prove their belief? 

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37 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

So how do atheists prove their belief? 

We don’t need to. I’m not trying to convince you. I don’t care if you wanna worship kargath the ant king 

 

gods were created by those in power to scare and control the masses

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6 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

We don’t need to. I’m not trying to convince you. I don’t care if you wanna worship kargath the ant king 

 

gods were created by those in power to scare and control the masses

No one has to. It's just that your followimg blindly to you beliefs.  And there is one thing many of you have in common. You all bash others for what they believe by using cute little sayings like "kargath the ant king" and shlt like that which points out what self rightious schmucks you are when you can't even prove anything you believe in.

And I have no fear like you are saying so I don't know why you keep making stuff up.

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15 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

No one has to. It's just that your followimg blindly to you beliefs.  And there is one thing many of you have in common. You all bash others for what they believe by using using cute little sayings like "kargath the ant king" and shlt like that which points out what self rightious schmucks you are ehen you can't even prove anything your belifs in.

And I have no fear like you are sayimg so I don't know why you keep making stuff up.

They can deny it all they want, but leftists by and large have a need to call others stupid, and it’s not just about religion.  It’s self preservation form their beliefs possibly being wrong. Because after all, what they believe is from a place of virtue, and their high mindedness is smarter than anything anyone else has to offer. It’s why they will nod their heads at something as utterly stupid as “mostly peaceful”. Won’t even pause to think for a moment about what they were just told. The other people who reject  such a foolish notion are dumb, so it must be smart. And that’s what the cult of the modern left have convinced themselves of. We’re on the smart side, so you must be stupid. About everything. The broken clocks on the other side, according  to them, aren’t even right twice a day. They just don’t exist. It’s very comforting.  Cowardly,  but it feels good. 

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29 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

No one has to. It's just that your followimg blindly to you beliefs.  And there is one thing many of you have in common. You all bash others for what they believe by using using cute little sayings like "kargath the ant king" and shlt like that which points out what self rightious schmucks you are ehen you can't even prove anything your belifs in.

And I have no fear like you are sayimg so I don't know why you keep making stuff up.

I was not saying it as disrespect, again I dont care if you wanna pray to Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Jupiter, Neptune or any other god.  It affects me ZERO and I truly dont care what anyone believes in

I need tangible proof to believe in anything

also how am I blindly following my beliefs, and you aren't?  You have no proof

 

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

also how am I blindly following my beliefs, and you aren't?  You have no proof

 

This.  I think someone basically said it already but I think it’s hilarious that he is saying “PROVE THAT GOD ISN’T REAL!”

No dude, you prove that God IS real.   Tough to prove a negative.  I guess I’d say I believe in God, but there’s not any proof that God is real.

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40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They can deny it all they want, but leftists by and large have a need to call others stupid, and it’s not just about religion.  It’s self preservation form their beliefs possibly being wrong. Because after all, what they believe is from a place of virtue, and their high mindedness is smarter than anything anyone else has to offer. It’s why they will nod their heads at something as utterly stupid as “mostly peaceful”. Won’t even pause to think for a moment about what they were just told. The other people who reject  such a foolish notion are dumb, so it must be smart. And that’s what the cult of the modern left have convinced themselves of. We’re on the smart side, so you must be stupid. About everything. The broken clocks on the other side, according  to them, aren’t even right twice a day. They just don’t exist. It’s very comforting.  Cowardly,  but it feels good. 

It's true. I don't push faith in other people's faces. I just saw a thread where people were bashing Catholicism and such and just thought I would see how they act about my posting a bit about atheism. And then I get "invisible guy in robes in the sky, "ant king" something or other. 

It's like orange man bad, must use no logic to tear him dowm.

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23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This.  I think someone basically said it already but I think it’s hilarious that he is saying “PROVE THAT GOD ISN’T REAL!”

No dude, you prove that God IS real.   Tough to prove a negative.  I guess I’d say I believe in God, but there’s not any proof that God is real.

Athiesm is a belief there is no God. It's not I don't know if there is one or not. So take my religion out of it, and prove your belief. It seems no one here can.

Have you guys ever taken philosophy classes or even read books? I'm not talking about my beliefs, I'm asking about your beliefs.

I honestly don't know if you all know what a 'proof' is.

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1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

Athiesm is a belief there is no God. It's not I don't know if there is one or not. So take my religion out of it, and prove your belief. It seems no one here can.

Including you...

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Including you...

I'm not an atheist. I was asking you about your atheist belief. You are very confident in your opinion here. But you have no proof.

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20 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

That's what I thought. You have nothing. You base your belief in atheism based upon your lack of being able to prove it.

Why would anyone base their beliefs on anything without evidence of it's existence?  Personally, I'm an agnostic.  I have an open mind but I'm not going to blindly believe in some being.  For me, the bigger issue is all the people who say they're believers but don't act like it. 

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3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I'm not an atheist. I was asking you about your atheist belief. You are very confident in your opinion here. But you have no proof.

I’m not an atheist 

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not an atheist 

Well the thread is about atheism. I'm.trying to find someone's reasin of why they believe so heavily in it. And to post interesting thoughts on atheism which I did at the beginning of the thread. The pushing of atheism by communist nations.

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32 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Well the thread is about atheism. I'm.trying to find someone's reasin of why they believe so heavily in it. And to post interesting thoughts on atheism which I did at the beginning of the thread. The pushing of atheism by communist nations.

I am trying to find someone's reasoning in believing there is a being thats a creator, to me it seems stupid, but again not bashing anyone who has faith in that

 

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24 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I am trying to find someone's reasoning in believing there is a being thats a creator, to me it seems stupid, but again not bashing anyone who has faith in that

 

That's the topic of another thread.

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5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

That's the topic of another thread.

it all ties together

here's my thought, if there is only one god why did he wait so long pick christianity to be the right religion

 

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20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it all ties together

here's my thought, if there is only one god why did he wait so long pick christianity to be the right religion

 

The title is about atheism. 

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On 12/26/2020 at 10:16 AM, Utilit99 said:

And this ladies and gentlemen, is worms in a nutshell. 

And I guess this kind of answers the title of the thread. The answer is 'Very'.

Funny thing is I’m not even atheist. Agnostic at best.

You’ve got a right to believe whatever you want and who am I to tell you different? But same goes for you guys 

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8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

The title is about atheism. 

there is no discussion of Atheism without the discussion of god

 

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11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

there is no discussion of Atheism without the discussion of god

 

They are separate philosophies/ beliefs each worthy of being talked about independantly in my eyes. 

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The few atheist I know mostly believe that there is some form of higher power at work. They simply do not believe in the Bible.

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37 minutes ago, Super Cubs said:

The few atheist I know mostly believe that there is some form of higher power at work. They simply do not believe in the Bible.

those arent atheists they are agnostic

 

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1 hour ago, Super Cubs said:

The few atheist I know mostly believe that there is some form of higher power at work. They simply do not believe in the Bible.

Even the good parts? 

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I'm an atheist and the reason for that, regarding the Abrahamic reliigions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) , is that the Biblical creation story is provably false, and with that goes any claims to divine authority. If a bunch of ancients sitting around a campfire came up with evolution or big bang without evidence, then the evidence came along 3000 years later, that would have been impressive. Instead they made a good guess and my knowing that that guess is wrong takes the air out of their sails. I don't want to leave my brain at the door when I enter a church.

What I like about Buddism is that they are willing to discard any belief if it runs counter to science. Even reincarnation, which I think is bullsh*t too, but at least they're willing to overhaul it if in someway it proves false. But good luck proving reincarnation is false. 

Hinduism seems stupid.

Mormonism and Scientology were founded by charlatains. Mormons are generally good people and seem smart though, I don't know why they buy that BS.

I like Taoism, it's kind of the Murphy's Law religion. If I cared to try becoming more spiritual I may give that a go, but I'm not terribly interested in becoming more spiritual.

Getting back to the OP, I don't like the atheism ties to communism and in turn the ties to wokeism. I like the Chrstopher Hitchens or Sam Harris type atheists just fine and don't mind being lumped in with them. It's like though, in the absense of religion, people turn to some other religion like karmic crystal bullsh*t or Wokeism and I'm not down with that, I far prefer every other religion to that sh*t. Woke is in last place all the way at the bottom of the religion food chart, frolicking in the mushy turds under the unwashed ass of second-to-last-place Fundamentalist Islam. Woke isn't the worst religion of all time. For example, its not as bad as the bloody ritual human sacrifices that were being performed by the Aztecs, so at least there's that, but dead religions don't count. If I had to pick one or the other, I'd rather spend a twelve hour flight over the Pacific sitting next to Reza Aslan's Aghori cannibal buddy than some woke sh*tbag.

As for Christianity, it's a proven winner, you can build a wonderful civilization and a use it as a cornerstone for ethics and I have no real complaints when it's not bein foiseted on people as we had in the 90s and 2000s. I just see it for what it is. I use to think Creationsim in public shools was a horrible thing but re-evaluating the thing, if I had to choose, I'd rather kids get fifty doses of that than one dose of wokeism. When it comes to education, I'd happily join forces and make peace with the Christian fundies to wage war on woke. Woke = evil. If that means taking Creationism into schools again, sign me up. Anything but woke.  Anything.

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Not believing in nothing is stupid.   Dumbest sh1t I ever heard. Only at FFT folks. How does that even make sense? You fruitcakes are the one who believe in fairytales. You'd have to admit there was something to not believe in it. 

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On 12/27/2020 at 1:31 AM, nzoner said:

Nope,God made a way of escape for his creation through his Son Jesus,it's a free gift to anyone IF they choose to accept it.God created us with freewill so we get to choose whether we spend eternity with him or without him.

Sounds like the plot of a really sh!tty marvel movie.

I am the alpha and omega. Let's create a planet... And people... And fock it, I need some angels.

Uh oh. One of the angels has turned. Got the female to steal my apple.

What to do... I know! I'll make some rules! Carve em on stone tablets! Let some tribe carry them around in this sweet box! Need to choose a chosen people... Meh, jews will work.

Oh, well that went well. Back to the drawing board...

I know! In order to cleanse the things I made of "sin" which as a concept can only exist because I created it... I'll split myself into thirds... Yeah, a trinity. Catchy. One third will sit up here. One third will go immaculately knock some chick up, and she will then give birth to the third part.

Ill have that part wander about for a few decades, spreading my word, then be brutally tortured and killed. But then he rises from the dead. Oh, and I should make sure that none of my holy word is written down for a century after the fact.

Then just sit back for a couple millenia and wait for sweet judgment day!

God I'm smart! I mean, me I'm smart.

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6 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Sounds like the plot of a really sh!tty marvel movie.

I am the alpha and omega. Let's create a planet... And people... And fock it, I need some angels.

Uh oh. One of the angels has turned. Got the female to steal my apple.

What to do... I know! I'll make some rules! Carve em on stone tablets! Let some tribe carry them around in this sweet box! Need to choose a chosen people... Meh, jews will work.

Oh, well that went well. Back to the drawing board...

I know! In order to cleanse the things I made of "sin" which as a concept can only exist because I created it... I'll split myself into thirds... Yeah, a trinity. Catchy. One third will sit up here. One third will go immaculately knock some chick up, and she will then give birth to the third part.

Ill have that part wander about for a few decades, spreading my word, then be brutally tortured and killed. But then he rises from the dead. Oh, and I should make sure that none of my holy word is written down for a century after the fact.

Then just sit back for a couple millenia and wait for sweet judgment day!

God I'm smart! I mean, me I'm smart.

You left out the “do unto others part”. You know, the golden rule. I think that’s pretty cool.  

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You left out the “do unto others part”. You know, the golden rule. I think that’s pretty cool.  

Hardly a difficult concept. Basically, don't be a d!ck.

The bhuddists have the same thing.

“… hurt not others with what pains yourself.” (The Buddha, Udânavarga 5:18, trans. 1883:27)

I think that point would stand out more in the Bible if they got rid of the thousand pages of obscure "history" and rules and whatnot of a semi nomadic desert people, and the weird prophecies and mythology and such.

 

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1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Hardly a difficult concept. Basically, don't be a d!ck.

The bhuddists have the same thing.

“… hurt not others with what pains yourself.” (The Buddha, Udânavarga 5:18, trans. 1883:27)

I think that point would stand out more in the Bible if they got rid of the thousand pages of obscure "history" and rules and whatnot of a semi nomadic desert people, and the weird prophecies and mythology and such.

 

Well, they separated those parts. Sort of like the constitution once allowed slavery and women couldn’t vote and a whole bunch of other stuff we would find ridiculous today. 

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You left out the “do unto others part”. You know, the golden rule. I think that’s pretty cool.  

Yeah the golden rule is nice. You find that a lot of places. Often without all the focked up sh1t that accompanies it in the Bible.

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Yeah the golden rule is nice. You find that a lot of places. Often without all the focked up sh1t that accompanies it in the Bible.

Like I said, the Old Testament and the New one are quite different. The old testament people were not Christians. Christ wasn’t around for all that. He put a stop to it when he took over. 

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like I said, the Old Testament and the New one are quite different. The old testament people were not Christians. Christ wasn’t around for all that. He put a stop to it when he took over. 

God murdered everyone on the planet, minus a couple of people, in the OLD TESTAMENT. 

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I am a paranoid agnostic. I am not sure if there is a God, but I know that there is a higher power who is out to get me.

Also, are we really saying that atheists killed all sorts of people and not looking at how religious nuts have raged wars since the beginning of time all in the name of God?

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10 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

I am a paranoid agnostic. I am not sure if there is a God, but I know that there is a higher power who is out to get me.

Also, are we really saying that atheists killed all sorts of people and not looking at how religious nuts have raged wars since the beginning of time all in the name of God?

Gods. And you’re not taking into account what is often said about religion, that it was/is used to control people. Religion was the political power through much of history. It was used by those in power to control the masses. That doesn’t mean it was adhering to the actual religion. Until a new nation formed and rebelled against divine rule.