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[TimmySmith 2,783]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

I am starting to get some pressure from work.  CIO and I spoke yesterday.. He "strongly" suggests I get the vaxx. 

They want me to go to NY again in a few weeks.

What proof are they looking for? 

[edjr 7,066]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

What proof are they looking for? 

None. I can't lie though.

[lod001 1,345]

48 minutes ago, edjr said:

None. I can't lie though.

Then just say, 'i'm good' for every question they have about taking the toxin.

Did you get vaccinated? 'I'm good'

Where's your vax card "i'm good'.

Any side effects? "i'm good'.

Now, what movie was that from?

 

[TimHauck 3,486]

2 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

OK, if we are playing that way, it could have been so much better if he was never vaccinated.   

I mean if he got a blood clot or something without ever having covid, then you might have a (bad) argument, but he didn't, so this makes zero sense.   Vaccine data has shown that in addition to preventing most people from getting it in the first place, it also lessens symptoms if you do get it, so it's not a giant leap to think that he could have had worse symptoms if he never got the vaccine.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,590]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Sure thing.  Still contradictory.

nothing to do with that for me

I had covid

done and done

I had an antibody test 3 weeks ago

still have them

I dont need a vaccine

 

[TimHauck 3,486]

On 5/4/2021 at 9:03 AM, TimmySmith said:

And for some, those are 2 outstanding reasons to wait.   

Honest question, do you think full FDA approval will even change anything for most of the people refusing it?  I'm sure it will just change to "I don't trust the government!!"

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Honest question, do you think full FDA approval will even change anything for most of the people refusing it?  I'm sure it will just change to "I don't trust the government!!"

What if full FDA approval never comes through? Or they find somethong seriously wrong with it? It will be too late for those who got it, no?

[TimmySmith 2,783]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Honest question, do you think full FDA approval will even change anything for most of the people refusing it?  I'm sure it will just change to "I don't trust the government!!"

   Anyone who took a vaccine without FDA approval, that they would have no legal recourse if it didn't perform or actually damaged them, would have labeled an idiot 2 years ago.  And now those who won't do it are the ones being ostracized. Bizzarro world. 

[Strike 6,056]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Honest question, do you think full FDA approval will even change anything for most of the people refusing it?  I'm sure it will just change to "I don't trust the government!!"

Personally, I do think it will change some people's minds.  I got the Pfizer vaccine last Sunday.  I had to sign a form basically acknowledging that this thing isn't approved.  I suspect that carries some legal liability waiver power for the drug company.  I'll admit to having some second thoughts at that moment.  I took the vaccine because there is a decent body of evidence that it's safe and effective.  But let's be clear.  That evidence is over a relatively short period of time.  We won't know the long term effects of these vaccines for a couple of years.  Suggesting that people shouldn't have concerns about that is wrong.  It's a legitimate concern and each person needs to decide for themself whether it's safe and when they're comfortable getting it. 

[IGotWorms 4,063]

On 5/5/2021 at 9:31 AM, TimmySmith said:

The cucks need that death toll fallback position.  I think it's in every thread, after they have been pwned on all topics. 

Another cuckoldry obsessed creep. Though you sound just like the other one, and always have  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,109]

10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Another cuckoldry obsessed creep. Though you sound just like the other one, and always have  

Triggered. 

[Reality 3,144]

27 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nothing to do with that for me

I had covid

done and done

I had an antibody test 3 weeks ago

still have them

I dont need a vaccine

 

Yup. 

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Triggered. 

Do you guys play soggy biscuit while fantasizing about other men railing your wives?

[Hardcore troubadour 16,109]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Do you guys play soggy biscuit while fantasizing about other men railing your wives?

Do you pay alimony and does your ex fantasize about other men flogging you? 

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Last one to jizz has to eat it. But for the cuckoldry-obsessed set I guess they consider it winning

[Reality 3,144]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Do you pay alimony and does your ex fantasize about other men flogging you? 

Perfect response, that idiot had to regret his post the second he hit submit. What an easy mark.

[Reality 3,144]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

Why do Repubtards hate vaccines? This dates back before Covid to Michelle Dingbat Bachman claiming vaccines caused autism. Just general retard anger at medicine and knowledge or something?

Dumb, even for you, do some research.

[MDC 8,157]

2 minutes ago, Reality said:

Dumb, even for you, do some research.

Another quality post. No wonder you hate trolling.  

[TimHauck 3,486]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Personally, I do think it will change some people's minds.  I got the Pfizer vaccine last Sunday.  I had to sign a form basically acknowledging that this thing isn't approved.  I suspect that carries some legal liability waiver power for the drug company.  I'll admit to having some second thoughts at that moment.  I took the vaccine because there is a decent body of evidence that it's safe and effective.  But let's be clear.  That evidence is over a relatively short period of time.  We won't know the long term effects of these vaccines for a couple of years.  Suggesting that people shouldn't have concerns about that is wrong.  It's a legitimate concern and each person needs to decide for themself whether it's safe and when they're comfortable getting it. 

Fair enough, I think it will help some people be more willing to get it I just have a hard time believing it will really that have much impact.   

I do believe the drug companies may even be immune for awhile even after it's approved, but not 100% sure on that.

[Strike 6,056]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Fair enough, I think it will help some people be more willing to get it I just have a hard time believing it will really that have much impact.   

I do believe the drug companies may even be immune for awhile even after it's approved, but not 100% sure on that.

Regardless, FDA approval means more testing has been done over a longer period of time.  I mean, think about it, 6 months AFTER Pfizer's vaccine came out and they said two doses three weeks apart would be sufficient they came out and said "Uh, we think you're gonna need a 3rd dose."  That's not the most reassuring thing to hear from a company who's product you just injected in to your immune system. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fair enough, I think it will help some people be more willing to get it I just have a hard time believing it will really that have much impact.   

I do believe the drug companies may even be immune for awhile even after it's approved, but not 100% sure on that.

When's the approval date again?

[TBayXXXVII 2,683]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fair enough, I think it will help some people be more willing to get it I just have a hard time believing it will really that have much impact.   

I do believe the drug companies may even be immune for awhile even after it's approved, but not 100% sure on that.

 

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Regardless, FDA approval means more testing has been done over a longer period of time.  I mean, think about it, 6 months AFTER Pfizer's vaccine came out and they said two doses three weeks apart would be sufficient they came out and said "Uh, we think you're gonna need a 3rd dose."  That's not the most reassuring thing to hear from a company who's product you just injected in to your immune system. 

The PREP Act, covers Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J from any financial liability... forever.  The only way to get compensation would be through an act of Congress (information on link provided). 

[KSB2424 3,174]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

Personally, I do think it will change some people's minds.  I got the Pfizer vaccine last Sunday.  I had to sign a form basically acknowledging that this thing isn't approved.  I suspect that carries some legal liability waiver power for the drug company.  I'll admit to having some second thoughts at that moment.  I took the vaccine because there is a decent body of evidence that it's safe and effective.  But let's be clear.  That evidence is over a relatively short period of time.  We won't know the long term effects of these vaccines for a couple of years.  Suggesting that people shouldn't have concerns about that is wrong.  It's a legitimate concern and each person needs to decide for themself whether it's safe and when they're comfortable getting it. 

This is me to a tee.  

[5-Points 3,850]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I guess the virus wasn't harmless for him though: “It felt like I was hit by two cars at once."    Could've been even worse if he wasn't vaccinated.

Mebbe. Mebbe not.

6 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

OK, if we are playing that way, it could have been so much better if he was never vaccinated.   

Exactly. It's equally possible that having been injected with an ineffective vaccine, that the effects of Covid were exacerbated and may have been less severe had he never been injected in the first place. 

[TimHauck 3,486]

1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

It's equally possible that having been injected with an ineffective vaccine, that the effects of Covid were exacerbated and may have been less severe had he never been injected in the first place. 

No, no it's not.

[TimHauck 3,486]

3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

The PREP Act, covers Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J from any financial liability... forever.  The only way to get compensation would be through an act of Congress (information on link provided). 

I don't believe it's forever.  2024 according to this - https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html

[5-Points 3,850]

34 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, no it's not.

Sure it is. 

There have been reports of people who have gotten the vaccine shortly after having contracted Covid and they experienced very harsh reactions to the vaccine. There is no reason to believe that the opposite can't also occur. 

All of that, however, is beside the point. This guy was vaccinated and contracted Covid afterward. If that doesn't give you pause as to the efficacy and, therefore, necessity, of getting vaccinated then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

Sure it is. 

There have been reports of people who have gotten the vaccine shortly after having contracted Covid and they experienced very harsh reactions to the vaccine. There is no reason to believe that the opposite can't also occur. 

All of that, however, is beside the point. This guy was vaccinated and contracted Covid afterward. If that doesn't give you pause as to the efficacy and, therefore, necessity, of getting vaccinated then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 

I don't really get that argument. It's like saying “oh, lots of people still die in a car crash while wearing a seat belt, so fock that, I'm not wearing one.”

I pretty much read that the vaccine I took is a coin flip. Basically a 50% chance of it preventing covid.

That's better than nothing, and was free, so sure. 

[Mike Isles 583]

9 hours ago, edjr said:

I am starting to get some pressure from work.  CIO and I spoke yesterday.. He "strongly" suggests I get the vaxx. 

They want me to go to NY again in a few weeks.

We do not your type here. Stay home. Don’t get vaxxed  

[5-Points 3,850]

1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I don't really get that argument. It's like saying “oh, lots of people still die in a car crash while wearing a seat belt, so fock that, I'm not wearing one.”

I pretty much read that the vaccine I took is a coin flip. Basically a 50% chance of it preventing covid.

That's better than nothing, and was free, so sure. 

Ok. So you rolled the dice in favor of getting the vax and I've rolled the dice against getting it. Let's see how it plays out. 

 

ETA: Its a decent analogy. Often times the fact that somebody was wearing a seat belt is what causes their death in a wreck. It's rare but it does happen.

However, vehicle accidents are much more deadly than is Covid. So, being less cautious against Covid is not equivalent to being less cautious about vehicle wrecks. 

 

[TimHauck 3,486]

9 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Sure it is. 

There have been reports of people who have gotten the vaccine shortly after having contracted Covid and they experienced very harsh reactions to the vaccine. There is no reason to believe that the opposite can't also occur. 

All of that, however, is beside the point. This guy was vaccinated and contracted Covid afterward. If that doesn't give you pause as to the efficacy and, therefore, necessity, of getting vaccinated then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 

It’s possible, yes.  But it’s not “equally” possible.

And we knew it was also “possible” to test positive after getting the vaccine.  But it’s very rare.

[TimHauck 3,486]

It’s funny because the same people talking about how few young people get serious covid cases, are generally the same ones that love to point out when people have a serious side effect from the vaccine, which is much more rare (particularly since only 16+ can get the vaccine right now).

[TimmySmith 2,783]

It's funny the people who acknowledge that covid is serious in only 1% of cases, which are totally predictable, want to force the vaccine on everyone and are perfectly willing to sacrifice a certain % of people who were in no danger along the way.  And even deny that the % exists.

[Fireballer 2,694]

 

[5-Points 3,850]

9 hours ago, TimHauck said:

It’s possible, yes.  But it’s not “equally” possible.

And we knew it was also “possible” to test positive after getting the vaccine.  But it’s very rare.

I don't pretend to know all things Covid related but if adverse effects are possible if one is vaccinated after contracting Covid, then adverse effects are equally possible if one contracts Covid after being vaccinated. It's not rocket science, it's common sense. 

And if we already knew that it was possible to contract Covid after being vaccinated then why the full court press to make everybody get a vaccine that we knew wasn't going to work in many cases?

Seems to me it would be better to vaccinate high risk people and let low risk people get covid and build natural immunity. 

 

As a side note: In my link it says that since the vaccine has been released that around 6000 people out of 100M have contracted Covid after having been vaccinated. You and the "experts" choose to downplay that number as insignificant. However, when it comes to guns, around the same number of people are killed yearly out of a pool of 350M people and that's significant enough to ban guns. 

Totally unrelated, I know. Just an observation. 

[TimHauck 3,486]

On 5/8/2021 at 8:33 AM, TimmySmith said:

It's funny the people who acknowledge that covid is serious in only 1% of cases, which are totally predictable, want to force the vaccine on everyone and are perfectly willing to sacrifice a certain % of people who were in no danger along the way.  And even deny that the % exists.

Lol thanks for proving my point.   The only people that can be considered “in no danger” are children, and honestly even that is arguable, and they can’t even take the vaccine yet.  I also don’t think they should be forced to btw.  I know they’re working on authorizing/approving it for younger ages and it gets tricky since the parents are the ones making the decision, but the same is true for pretty much every other decision parents make about what they put in their kids’ bodies.

If by “sacrificing” you mean death, the chances of death are much higher from covid than from the vaccine, even if you believe the 4,000 vaccine death number.   I do agree that there should be better data on post vaccine deaths...for example I don’t see much on the ages of those reports at the moment, but pretty sure I’ve seen in the past that the majority of the post-vaccine deaths are also among the elderly.  Not diminishing them, just pointing out that there have been very few reports of people under 30 dying after the vaccine (like, single digits) out of millions that have taken it.

[TimHauck 3,486]

18 hours ago, 5-Points said:

I don't pretend to know all things Covid related but if adverse effects are possible if one is vaccinated after contracting Covid, then adverse effects are equally possible if one contracts Covid after being vaccinated. It's not rocket science, it's common sense. 

And if we already knew that it was possible to contract Covid after being vaccinated then why the full court press to make everybody get a vaccine that we knew wasn't going to work in many cases?

Seems to me it would be better to vaccinate high risk people and let low risk people get covid and build natural immunity. 

 

As a side note: In my link it says that since the vaccine has been released that around 6000 people out of 100M have contracted Covid after having been vaccinated. You and the "experts" choose to downplay that number as insignificant. However, when it comes to guns, around the same number of people are killed yearly out of a pool of 350M people and that's significant enough to ban guns. 

Totally unrelated, I know. Just an observation. 

I’m not sure you understand what the words “equally” and “many” mean...

”Possible” to get serious effects from covid (or from the vaccine for that matter) after being vaccinated? Yes.  “Equally” possible as without the vaccine? No.

Have people gotten covid after being vaccinated? Yes.  Have “many” people?  No, especially when looking as a percentage.  6000 / 100 million = 0.006%.  Our positivity rate as a country was around 5% for a while.   Even if you go by TimmySmith’s incorrect claim of a 0.75% chance of getting infected, that’s still over 100x higher.   They’ve never claimed the vaccine will stop ALL infections.  But it stops most of them.

[5-Points 3,850]

54 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not sure you understand what the words “equally” and “many” mean...

”Possible” to get serious effects from covid (or from the vaccine for that matter) after being vaccinated? Yes.  “Equally” possible as without the vaccine? No.

Have people gotten covid after being vaccinated? Yes.  Have “many” people?  No, especially when looking as a percentage.  6000 / 100 million = 0.006%.  Our positivity rate as a country was around 5% for a while.   Even if you go by TimmySmith’s incorrect claim of a 0.75% chance of getting infected, that’s still over 100x higher.   They’ve never claimed the vaccine will stop ALL infections.  But it stops most of them.

WTF are you talking about? I said if it's possible to have adverse effects from getting vaccinated after having contracted Covid then it is equally possible to have adverse effects from getting Covid after being vaccinated. 

The combination of vaccine + Covid is what causes the adverse effects. Why would it matter the order in which the two became combined? 

 

Also, if 6000 out of 100 million is no big deal then 6000 out 350 million is miniscule. 

[TimmySmith 2,783]

The fatty flu has the Bothauck unhinged. He must be pushing 3 bills around.

[TimHauck 3,486]

1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

WTF are you talking about? I said if it's possible to have adverse effects from getting vaccinated after having contracted Covid then it is equally possible to have adverse effects from getting Covid after being vaccinated. 

The combination of vaccine + Covid is what causes the adverse effects. Why would it matter the order in which the two became combined? 

 

Also, if 6000 out of 100 million is no big deal then 6000 out 350 million is miniscule. 

Yes I know what you said.  It’s possible.  But it’s not EQUALLY possible.

Sorry, what’s 6000 out of 350 million?