Tax revolt in Baltimore: give us more police or else!

[JustinCharge 2,397]

I didn't think of this.  Business threatening to not pay taxes as a group.  Can they throw all of them in jail?

 

 

 

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/06/08/please-do-your-job-following-violent-weekend-37-fells-point-businesses-threaten-to-withhold-city-taxes/

‘Please Do Your Job’: Following Violent Weekend, 37 Fells Point Businesses Threaten To Withhold City Taxes

By Ava-joye BurnettJune 8, 2021 at 11:48 pm

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — Dozens of Fells Point businesses say they are prepared to hold their city taxes, minor privilege fees and permit fees hostage until Baltimore increases police enforcement and municipal service in the area, according to a letter signed by 37 neighborhood restaurants and storefronts.

The announcement comes after three men were shot Saturday night on Thames Street and Aliceanna Street.

“What is happening in our front yard — the chaos and lawlessness that escalated this weekend into another night of tragic, unspeakable gun violence — has been going on for far too long,” said the letter addressed to Mayor Brandon Scott, Councilman Zeke Cohen, State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby and BPD Commissioner Michael Harrison.

The businesses plan to place the funds withheld into an escrow account until the city meets four demands:

1. Pick up the trash
2. Enforce traffic and parking laws through tickets and towing
3. Stop illegal open-air alcohol and drug sales
4. Empower police to responsibly do their job

The letter said that the minor crime that police “ignore” is what lead to incidents like the weekend shooting.

“Frankly, it’s pathetic that we have to ask for these basics,” the letter read. “But this is where we are.”

Here are the businesses and their owners, in alphabetical order, who signed the letter:

• Abbey Burger – Marigot Miller
• Admiral’s Cup – Darin Mislan
• Ale Mary’s -Tom Rivers
• Alexander’s Tavern – Carrie Podles
• aMuse Toys -Claudia Towles
• Barcocina – Shane Gerken
• Barley’s Backyard – William Packo
• Bertha’s – Andy Norris
• BOP Pizza – Mike Beckner
• Denzel’s Shark Bar Grill – Denzil Richards
• Dogwatch Tavern – Marka Browning
• EC Pops – Doug Yeakey & Lance Sovine
• Emporium Collagia -Luana Kaufmann
• Fells Point Creamery – Essayas Hable
• Fells Point Surf Shop- Alison Schuch
• Friends and Family- Ginny Lawhorn
• Koopers Tavern- Patrick Russell
• Luna Garden- Jascy Jones
• Max’s Taphouse- Ron Furman
• Papi’s- Charlie Gerde
• Party Dress – Susan Singer
• Pie in the Sky – Murat Mercan
• Poppy & Stella – Kelley Heuisler
• Red Star – Kevin Havens
• Rodos Bar – Mike Katris
• Slainte – Kaite Russell
• SuCasa – Nick Johnson
• Thames Street Oyster House – Candace Beattie
• The Admiral Fell Inn – Ted Jabara
• The Choptank – Alex Smith
• The Horse You Came In On – Eric Mathias
• The Point – Erica Russo
• The Pretzel Twist – Essayas Hable
• The Rockwell – Bryan Burkert
• The Waterfront – Kevin Havens
• The Wharf Rat – Sean Brescia & Jennifer Olivia
• Zelda Zen – Beth Hawks

 

[Fireballer 2,642]

Meh...probably just a bunch of whiteys and Koreans.  Good riddance if they close.  That would allow the de-gentrification of local businesses, and neighborhood black-owned businesses can open in their place.

[Cdub100 3,908]

What are more police going to do? Black people don't care. They will just keep going on killing each other and anyone else stupid enough to be too close to the carnage.

[fandandy 3,313]

Hopefully, we never let these morons govern the entire country.

Actually, sh1t...

 

[Voltaire 5,316]

4 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

I didn't think of this.  Business threatening to not pay taxes as a group.  Can they throw all of them in jail?

 

 

 

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/06/08/please-do-your-job-following-violent-weekend-37-fells-point-businesses-threaten-to-withhold-city-taxes/

‘Please Do Your Job’: Following Violent Weekend, 37 Fells Point Businesses Threaten To Withhold City Taxes

By Ava-joye BurnettJune 8, 2021 at 11:48 pm

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — Dozens of Fells Point businesses say they are prepared to hold their city taxes, minor privilege fees and permit fees hostage until Baltimore increases police enforcement and municipal service in the area, according to a letter signed by 37 neighborhood restaurants and storefronts.

The announcement comes after three men were shot Saturday night on Thames Street and Aliceanna Street.

“What is happening in our front yard — the chaos and lawlessness that escalated this weekend into another night of tragic, unspeakable gun violence — has been going on for far too long,” said the letter addressed to Mayor Brandon Scott, Councilman Zeke Cohen, State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby and BPD Commissioner Michael Harrison.

The businesses plan to place the funds withheld into an escrow account until the city meets four demands:

1. Pick up the trash
2. Enforce traffic and parking laws through tickets and towing
3. Stop illegal open-air alcohol and drug sales
4. Empower police to responsibly do their job

The letter said that the minor crime that police “ignore” is what lead to incidents like the weekend shooting.

“Frankly, it’s pathetic that we have to ask for these basics,” the letter read. “But this is where we are.”

Here are the businesses and their owners, in alphabetical order, who signed the letter:

• Abbey Burger – Marigot Miller
• Admiral’s Cup – Darin Mislan
• Ale Mary’s -Tom Rivers
• Alexander’s Tavern – Carrie Podles
• aMuse Toys -Claudia Towles
• Barcocina – Shane Gerken
• Barley’s Backyard – William Packo
• Bertha’s – Andy Norris
• BOP Pizza – Mike Beckner
• Denzel’s Shark Bar Grill – Denzil Richards
• Dogwatch Tavern – Marka Browning
• EC Pops – Doug Yeakey & Lance Sovine
• Emporium Collagia -Luana Kaufmann
• Fells Point Creamery – Essayas Hable
• Fells Point Surf Shop- Alison Schuch
• Friends and Family- Ginny Lawhorn
• Koopers Tavern- Patrick Russell
• Luna Garden- Jascy Jones
• Max’s Taphouse- Ron Furman
• Papi’s- Charlie Gerde
• Party Dress – Susan Singer
• Pie in the Sky – Murat Mercan
• Poppy & Stella – Kelley Heuisler
• Red Star – Kevin Havens
• Rodos Bar – Mike Katris
• Slainte – Kaite Russell
• SuCasa – Nick Johnson
• Thames Street Oyster House – Candace Beattie
• The Admiral Fell Inn – Ted Jabara
• The Choptank – Alex Smith
• The Horse You Came In On – Eric Mathias
• The Point – Erica Russo
• The Pretzel Twist – Essayas Hable
• The Rockwell – Bryan Burkert
• The Waterfront – Kevin Havens
• The Wharf Rat – Sean Brescia & Jennifer Olivia
• Zelda Zen – Beth Hawks

 

I've been out of the country a long time, so I don't keep up with things, but these all sound like small mom and pop businesses, not corporate franchises. Is that accurate?

[nobody 2,673]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I've been out of the country a long time, so I don't keep up with things, but these all sound like small mom and pop businesses, not corporate franchises. Is that accurate?

Of course, and they'll just let them not pay taxes and close their businesses when they don't.  This probably represents 0.001% of the cities revenue.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Fock off. Cities with democrat mayors and state governors get no police. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

It is starting and I am glad.

Tell police they are the problem.  Defund them.  Plaster them on the internet doing their job but call it police violence.

The morale of police all of the country has dropped quickly.  I dont blame them for letting things go.  

With less police influence in these Dem cities they crumble.  Violence is on the rise and people know that it will only get worse.   Decent people and people with money and businesses will just move out.  

Leaving decay and worse environments for people of color.  Only for Dems to turn around and blame the hardships on Republicans.  The day people of these cities wake up is thr day the Dems lose elections.

[5-Points 3,530]

The Buckhead (?) section of Atlanta has a ballot initiative coming up where the people will vote whether or not to stay a part of Atlanta or break off and form their own city, with their own police department. 

People are fed up with the left's buIIshit and are starting to do something about it.  

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

24 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

The Buckhead (?) section of Atlanta has a ballot initiative coming up where the people will vote whether or not to stay a part of Atlanta or break off and form their own city, with their own police department. 

People are fed up with the left's buIIshit and are starting to do something about it.  

I'm amazed they didn't already have their own police department. Isn't “getting away from black people” the main reason buckhead exists? 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

8 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I've been out of the country a long time, so I don't keep up with things, but these all sound like small mom and pop businesses, not corporate franchises. Is that accurate?

These are local bars and restaurants that make the backbone of Fells Point. My cousin owns a restaurant but she didn't sign, my guess is because there were gunshots right outside her restaurant and she is afraid. If Fells Point falls to the savages, Baltimore is 100% done. 

[5-Points 3,530]

50 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I'm amazed they didn't already have their own police department. Isn't “getting away from black people” the main reason buckhead exists? 

Well they found it and now violence is skyrocketing. The Atlanta police probably used to have a heavy presence in the area to deter "spring breakers."But since they're no longer allowed to do their job, the good people of Buckhead are forced to take drastic measures. 

[Djgb13 2,339]

8 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Well they found it and now violence is skyrocketing. The Atlanta police probably used to have a heavy presence in the area to deter "spring breakers."But since they're no longer allowed to do their job, the good people of Buckhead are forced to take drastic measures. 

How much you wanna bet liberals will say they’re being racist and just want to break away from black people? Never mind all the violence and chaos going on. They’ll focus on the race part

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

13 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Well they found it and now violence is skyrocketing. The Atlanta police probably used to have a heavy presence in the area to deter "spring breakers."But since they're no longer allowed to do their job, the good people of Buckhead are forced to take drastic measures. 

Last time I was in Atlanta, my then wife and I were staying downtown. We went out at night looking for a place to eat, and a cop flat out told me to go back to buckhead. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

How much you wanna bet liberals will say they’re being racist and just want to break away from black people? Never mind all the violence and chaos going on. They’ll focus on the race part

Libs have turned all black people into criminals because they refuse to acknowledge that there is a difference.  And blacks are not standing up and saying there is, because of the tranny cancel movement. The libs are flat out evil to black people. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

I know one liberal in the Atlanta area.  But they live in some well-manicured upper class suburb miles out of town with no BLM at all.

[bostonlager 2,665]

48 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

How much you wanna bet liberals will say they’re being racist and just want to break away from black people? Never mind all the violence and chaos going on. They’ll focus on the race part

That is what people need to get over if we are going to win this war. Believe it or not, I get called a racist every day. It doesn't bother me at all. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Eat Berthas Mussels.

[vuduchile 1,945]

1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I'm amazed they didn't already have their own police department. Isn't “getting away from black people” the main reason buckhead exists? 

There’s no getting away from black people in Atlanta. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

There’s no getting away from black people in Atlanta. 

How are they such a small % of the population but still able to fock up so many cities in this country?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Self, non government imposed segregation is the way to go.  And that’s exactly what the liberal marxists are trying to stop with their “fair housing” nonsense. People are better off with their own kind. Fact. 

[porkbutt 893]

i don't understand why you racists don't want to live and do business in the midst of chaos and violence

and why don't you racists want to live in neighborhoods where there's music blaring, people screaming, trash everywhere and cars revvin' all hours of the night?

ill never understand racists

[JustinCharge 2,397]

53 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

How are they such a small % of the population but still able to fock up so many cities in this country?

city centers are filled with blacks.  the sprawling suburbs are filled with whites.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

56 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

How are they such a small % of the population but still able to fock up so many cities in this country?

White guilt and a woman’s right to have an abortion. I don’t see much else the left has going for it. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

interesting read from history

https://patch.com/california/san-francisco/look-urban-violence-police-brutality-ancient-rome

Urban violence has been around for as long as people have agglomerated into population centers, from a few thousand to many millions. The ancient city of Rome reached a million people two thousand years ago. Crime and public disorder had reached such a level in the first century BC/BCE that the first Roman emperor, Augustus, decided to do something—and what he initiated provided a template for the 20th century surveillance state. Emperor Augustus created a police force, militarized the city of Rome, and instituted a pervasive spying system that could be envied even by Stalin. How ancient Rome became a police state is important to talk about now because cities in the U.S. and worldwide are following in the emperor's footsteps. In the past decade, we have seen a rise in conflict between the police and the civilian population and, since 9/11, our police forces have become militarized and our cities have come under increasing surveillance.

In Roman society, violence was endemic and had been accentuated by the political chaos of the Late Republic (2nd to 1st centuries BC/BCE). Though the government could usually cope with major disorders, personal violence plagued the city. Under the Republic, the police powers of the government were rudimentary, with few officials and limited staff trying to maintain some semblance of order. In the imperial period (1st century BC/BCE to 5th century AD/CE), crime was commonplace, and some of it was organized. Emperor Domitian broke up a ring of professional murderers who killed their victims with poisoned needles, and who operated both in the city and throughout the empire. Under Emperor Commodus, there was a revival of the same gang, but it was soon suppressed. Most criminals at Rome followed more traditional pursuits, and the city was plagued with housebreakers, pickpockets, petty thieves, and muggers. Seneca, a Roman philosopher, compares life in the city of Rome generally to conditions in the public baths: "Some things will be thrown at you; some will hit you."

Self-Help
When the average citizen of Rome became a victim of crime, he had to rely on his neighbors and relatives for help. Roman nobility could also call up a mob of "clients" (people who attached themselves to wealthy men for mutual benefits and favors) to do battle for them. In rural areas of Italy, the situation was worse, and landowners hired armed bands to protect them and intimidate their enemies. There were even a few private armies of thugs at Rome. Self-help was always the main way to deal with criminals in ancient Rome, and there was no concept of public prosecution, so victims of crime or their families had to organize and manage the prosecution themselves.

The Vigiles
One of the major achievements of Rome's first emperor, Augustus, was the establishment in the year 6 AD/CE of an effective force of night watchmen and firemen. When Augustus came to power, he undertook a reorganization of the city by creating 14 wards. The wards were protected by seven squads of 1,000 men each, for a total of 7,000 men, called vigiles, who acted as both night watchmen and firemen. Vigiles comes from the Latin words vigilans (vigilantis), which means wide awake, watchful, alert, and gives us our modern words vigil and vigilant, as well as vigilante. But the Roman vigiles were given legal authority from the emperor and were not vigilantes in today's meaning (who act without legal authority). The vigiles were organized along military lines (like today's fire brigades), complete with personal weapons and military dress, officers, standard-bearers, and musicians (a precursor of the police band?).

At first, the vigiles functioned primarily as a fire-fighting force, since the main threat to cities (then and now) was destruction by uncontrolled fire. They were equipped with water-pumps, buckets, and axes (for breaking down the doors of houses on fire or suspected of being a fire-risk). Artillery was used to shoot dampening materials onto fires and to create fire breaks by levelling buildings. The vigiles patrolled the city all night (night watchmen) and had the right of entry into private homes, which put them in the position of witnessing crime and taking on the role of policemen—from capturing thieves, returning runaway slaves, to maintaining public order.

Urban Police: The Praetorian Guard
The night watchmen were supported by the Urban Cohorts (cohortes urbanae), also created by Emperor Augustus, who acted as a heavy-duty, anti-riot force, as well as by the Praetorian Guard if necessary. The Urban Cohorts were all trained and organized as professional soldiers, and were principally concerned with policing the city and maintaining public order under the command of the city prefect (praefectus urbi). They also provided crowd-control during parades, games, and races, especially to prevent criminal activity in deserted areas of the city. They also occasionally took part in military campaigns. There were three Urban Cohorts, of 1,000 men each, together with a detachment 1,200 cavalry, as a mounted police and army unit. A fourth Urban Cohort was added by Emperor Caligula, and a total of seven were installed under Emperor Claudius.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

thats a picture of Rome, from relative peace in the republic, to political chaos leading to lots of crime, to people organizing mobs to fight their own justice, to a collapse into a dictatorship and police state to curb crime.l

[avoiding injuries 1,580]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

45 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

 

What ring of hell is that? 

[Old School 360]

Of course they list the business names and the owners names - conveniently making them targets for “outrage”

[Old School 360]

12 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

It is starting and I am glad.

With less police influence in these Dem cities they crumble.  Violence is on the rise and people know that it will only get worse.   Decent people and people with money and businesses will just move out.  

Leaving decay and worse environments for people of color.  Only for Dems to turn around and blame the hardships on Republicans.  The day people of these cities wake up is thr day the Dems lose elections.

I believe it is all part of the plan.

Turn the crappy left ruled cities into shambles- run the moderate left out and into the more conservative cities, change the demographic of those new cities, and eventually ruin every pocket of sanity of our country.

Far fetched? I don’t think so. 

[5-Points 3,530]

10 hours ago, Djgb13 said:

How much you wanna bet liberals will say they’re being racist and just want to break away from black people? Never mind all the violence and chaos going on. They’ll focus on the race part

They call it White flight. 

We call it moving our families to a better, safer neighborhood. 

The funny thing is when Blacks get a little money they do the same thing. They don't want to be surrounded by ghetto trash either. 

[5-Points 3,530]

10 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Last time I was in Atlanta, my then wife and I were staying downtown. We went out at night looking for a place to eat, and a cop flat out told me to go back to buckhead. 

Prolly some sound advice. 

 

[Voltaire 5,316]

20 hours ago, nobody said:

Of course, and they'll just let them not pay taxes and close their businesses when they don't.  This probably represents 0.001% of the cities revenue.

Do we presume that McDonalds, Taco Bell, Denny's, Pizza Hut, etc aren't there and don't want anything to do with this neighborhood, or that they are there but none of the franchise managers want to sign? 

[nobody 2,673]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Do we presume that McDonalds, Taco Bell, Denny's, Pizza Hut, etc aren't there and don't want anything to do with this neighborhood, or that they are there but none of the franchise managers want to sign? 

They wouldn't be able to if they did.  A corporation isn't allowed to value law and order.