mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: So, I looked up mine and we are getting about $167 each month. Since we pay taxes every year (last year we owed around $10k) getting this $167 will NOT help us, only hurt. So I've opted out. Can I opt out after the fact? Like opt out now after the first payment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted July 16, 2021 Do the libs care that the libs are at fault for the problem with restaurants closed, businesses not being able to find help, businesses only open half the hours they are usually open? Do the libs have an opinion on all the "free money" the libs are giving out? Lets hear a board libs thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: So, I looked up mine and we are getting about $167 each month. Since we pay taxes every year (last year we owed around $10k) getting this $167 will NOT help us, only hurt. So I've opted out. There... I unenrolled from the dumb child tax credit payments. You have to go to IRS.gov and verify your ID and you can opt out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 What is most telling about this entire thread is how many of you think you are politically erudite and educated and then saw this thread and came up with crap like well if this is true.. I doubt whiffles right, but...and well this seems unlikely.. and then- holy crap I just looked at my bank account.. And you have f****** kids? And access to the internet? Obviously. I mean, Jesus f*** guys, just because Tucker Carlson doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it's not happening. Whether you like it whether you approve of it whether you don't like it, at least be f****** informed enough to know that it's coming. I don't blame the idiotic mothers who don't understand and are fantastically surprised by this. But for Jesus f***** sake guys... Maybe don't get all your news from opinion radio and TV and this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted July 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said: Can I opt out after the fact? Like opt out now after the first payment? I did. Our first check is on the way, but we won't get anymore after this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I did. Our first check is on the way, but we won't get anymore after this. Yup just did the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,647 Posted July 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, wiffleball said: What is most telling about this entire thread is how many of you think you are politically erudite and educated and then saw this thread and came up with crap like well if this is true.. I doubt whiffles right, but...and well this seems unlikely.. and then- holy crap I just looked at my bank account.. And you have f****** kids? And access to the internet? Obviously. I mean, Jesus f*** guys, just because Tucker Carlson doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it's not happening. Whether you like it whether you approve of it whether you don't like it, at least be f****** informed enough to know that it's coming. I don't blame the idiotic mothers who don't understand and are fantastically surprised by this. But for Jesus f***** sake guys... Maybe don't get all your news from opinion radio and TV and this board. TDS Tucker derangement syndrome. It’s spreading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted July 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said: Can I opt out after the fact? Like opt out now after the first payment? Yep... And if you filed married/jointly, both of you must opt out... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted July 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, posty said: Yep... And if you filed married/jointly, both of you must opt out... This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: TDS Tucker derangement syndrome. It’s spreading. I guess, I don't know what the hell that is? Some kind of an answer? I guess now your go-to is either get over it or some sort of arrangement syndrome? But end of the day, jesus, how do you have kids and not know what the f*** is coming? Especially if you spend all f****** day on a political message board -and the answer is? You spend the rest of your time with news max and Tucker apparently. Because God damn,? How can you be any more ignorant? I'm trying to be fair. There's a lot of people who were caught off guard by this. But God damn guys , you spend all f****** day on a political website. Maybe take 10 seconds every 30 minutes to go find another website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I guess, I don't know what the hell that is? Some kind of an answer? I guess now your go-to is either get over it or some sort of arrangement syndrome? But end of the day, jesus, how do you have kids and not know what the f*** is coming? Especially if you spend all f****** day on a political message board -and the answer is? You spend the rest of your time with news max and Tucker apparently. Because God damn,? How can you be any more ignorant? I'm trying to be fair. There's a lot of people who were caught off guard by this. But God damn guys , you spend all f****** day on a political website. Maybe take 10 seconds every 30 minutes to go find another website. So you got nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 Trying to be fair, I'm more furious at the people with whom I volunteer and work with. Literally, there should be nobody in the family section of most homeless shelters this weekend. But anyway who's ever works at the social worker these days knows that they don't do s***. With the invention of the internet? They just tell you to go to the internet. It used to be the social workers had all the right contact names and numbers. And they did all the leg work. Now they require everybody else to do all the legwork. And I am actively vocal about that. They're f****** lazy. You guys spend all day on the internet. What's your excuse? Why are you so f****** ignorant about the most sweeping social policy in American history since social security? Why are there so many of you saying, holy s*** I just looked at my bank account and..? God damn man. It's not like they hid this f****** news. ... maybe Fox did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: So you got nothing. This alias guy is example number one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, wiffleball said: This alias guy is example number one. of what Are you counting when and how much I post like mdc does? You think following the actions of a poster throughout your whole day is better than someone posting off and on this site? And is wiffle is not an alias? It's your real name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted July 16, 2021 What about those of us with kids who didn't make the honor roll? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mookz said: What about those of us with kids who didn't make the honor roll? Stellar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, wiffleball said: What is most telling about this entire thread is how many of you think you are politically erudite and educated and then saw this thread and came up with crap like well if this is true.. I doubt whiffles right, but...and well this seems unlikely.. and then- holy crap I just looked at my bank account.. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Gladiators said: Link? You want me to link to this particular thread? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, wiffleball said: You want me to link to this particular thread? Lol. Well who said it? I see a bunch of people saying they thought it was stupid. I couldn’t find people saying you weren’t right or that it was unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted July 16, 2021 This is a disaster. massive Regular cash payments To $40 million Americans will create inflation. Corporations will hike prices to consume the extra money. People wont be better off except in the short term. Once inflation hits, the government will be unable to stop the payments because it will drive everyone into bankruptcy. You create a society of people hooked on free government handouts with no work ethic. You create slaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 Financial impact number one. Uber has more than tripled all day long in this community. This happens for two reasons. The single moms who used to drive Uber and suddenly realize they don't have to and number two I've talked to enough Uber drivers that take the bus to go to the grocery store are now spending ridiculous amounts on ubereats and other delivery services. I'll bet you there isn't a fleabag motel in this entire town that isn't hooked to capac ity by cob tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: This is a disaster. massive Regular cash payments To $40 million Americans will create inflation. Corporations will hike prices to consume the extra money. People wont be better off except in the short term. Once inflation hits, the government will be unable to stop the payments because it will drive everyone into bankruptcy. You create a society of people hooked on free government handouts with no work ethic. You create slaves. I'm not debating anything you're saying. I just want you to honestly compare and contrast that to the Trump tax boondoggle for the upper one percent. What were the impacts there? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: I did. Our first check is on the way, but we won't get anymore after this. Take that, Biden! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, wiffleball said: Trying to be fair, I'm more furious at the people with whom I volunteer and work with. Literally, there should be nobody in the family section of most homeless shelters this weekend. But anyway who's ever works at the social worker these days knows that they don't do s***. With the invention of the internet? They just tell you to go to the internet. It used to be the social workers had all the right contact names and numbers. And they did all the leg work. Now they require everybody else to do all the legwork. And I am actively vocal about that. They're f****** lazy. You guys spend all day on the internet. What's your excuse? Why are you so f****** ignorant about the most sweeping social policy in American history since social security? Why are there so many of you saying, holy s*** I just looked at my bank account and..? God damn man. It's not like they hid this f****** news. ... maybe Fox did. Is there ever an event you highlight that you don't outright lie about, or lie by omission or, in this case, lie by exaggeration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted July 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Gladiators said: Well who said it? I see a bunch of people saying they thought it was stupid. I couldn’t find people saying you weren’t right or that it was unlikely. I'm going to hang up and listen to Wiffleputz's response to this because I concur with Gladiators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 22, 2021 My Biden social credit score must be super low. It took 4 months to get my tax return and I still haven't received my ATC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: My Biden social credit score must be super low. It took 4 months to get my tax return and I still haven't received my ATC How many minors do you claim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 10:29 PM, Fireballer said: I heard about this but didn't pay much attention. They're giving that per month??? And what does "advanced child credit" mean? Are they advancing you what you would normally get after filing taxes? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: How many minors do you claim? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 22, 2021 I got my first monthly payment, didnt expect it since I'm over the income cutoff, or thought I was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted July 22, 2021 Hopefully this will curtail all the shoplifting going on in places like SF. With these advance payments folks will no longer need to steal "necessities". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted July 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: 3 Interesting. Either you make to much or your banking info is whacked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, vomit said: I got my first monthly payment, didnt expect it since I'm over the income cutoff, or thought I was. You better hold on to it, you'll probably have to pay it back. Going to be a shltshow come next tax season. https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/child-tax-credit-monthly-payments-tax-surprise/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Interesting. Either you make to much or your banking info is whacked. Banking info is fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Cdub100 said: Banking info is fine. Why do you assume you were chosen to get your tax return late? Just by luck? Accident? or something else? Why, if you are eligible, didn’t you get the advanced tax credit LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Alias Detective said: Why do you assume you were chosen to get your tax return late? Just by luck? Accident? or something else? Why, if you are eligible, didn’t you get the advanced tax credit LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. I don't know why. I joke but I know a few people who also got it late like me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,647 Posted July 22, 2021 If they doubled the tax credit, but only gave me half, how am I going to get beat up at tax time? I agree it’s just a gambit to buy votes, and I would vote against it, but I can’t foresee getting beat up. If I’m wrong I’m open to being schooled. Now if they didn’t double it and gave me all of it I could see how I would get screwed at tax time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted July 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If they doubled the tax credit, but only gave me half, how am I going to get beat up at tax time? I agree it’s just a gambit to buy votes, and I would vote against it, but I can’t foresee getting beat up. If I’m wrong I’m open to being schooled. Now if they didn’t double it and gave me all of it I could see how I would get screwed at tax time. Read up a little then ask questions. You look dumb. Edit, maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh. if you normally get your child tax credit back in cash when you file you may not be impacted. For those of us who use the tax credit to pay less at year end, I’d prefer they keep the money rather than Indian “give” me a tax credit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted July 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Read up a little then ask questions. You look dumb. Edit, maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh. if you normally get your child tax credit back in cash when you file you may not be impacted. For those of us who use the tax credit to pay less at year end, I’d prefer they keep the money rather than Indian “give” me a tax credit. The proper term is now "Indigenous People give" you focking pale face raciss!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,647 Posted July 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Read up a little then ask questions. You look dumb. Edit, maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh. if you normally get your child tax credit back in cash when you file you may not be impacted. For those of us who use the tax credit to pay less at year end, I’d prefer they keep the money rather than Indian “give” me a tax credit. Last year the CTC was 2000 per kid. Now it’s 3000, and they are giving you 1500 up front. So yeah, it’s 500 dollars less in credit at tax time per kid. I’m not geek club rich but that amount won’t “screw” me. Nor should it anyone else. Just save November’s and December’s payment and you’re fine. I should t have said doubled. My analysis is still accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites