IGotWorms 4,059 Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, TimmySmith said: Fauci himself debunked the bolded part. The last part could be true about the variants, according to what they are saying. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted July 30, 2021 Can anyone tell me: 1. Why or how does CNN have access to an internal CDC document? and 2. Where I can find a specific test for the Delta variant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted July 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Link? Coronavirus - Doomsday - The Geek Club - FFToday Forums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Can anyone tell me: 2. Where I can find a specific test for the Delta variant? Same place you can find the data for those who have covid. Nowhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted July 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Can anyone tell me: 1. Why or how does CNN have access to an internal CDC document? and 2. Where I can find a specific test for the Delta variant? 1. It was leaked to the Washington Post and was later confirmed by the CDC. 2. I don’t think there is a specific test just for Delta-if I’m understanding your question right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Same place you can find the data for those who have covid. Nowhere. same place you can find why you need vax if you had covid. nowhere. basically the experts say "probably should just to be safe" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: The fock do I have to do with releasing data? I'm not asking you to release data. I'm asking you to explain why they don't, and, if you can't why you are willing to follow them blindly. And why you take issue with those of us who are skeptical of them when they won't release that data. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,297 Posted July 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Strike said: I'm not asking you to release data. I'm asking you to explain why they don't, and, if you can't why you are willing to follow them blindly. And why you take issue with those of us who are skeptical of them when they won't release that data. Literally the very next sentence in the article, after the stuff worms posted is... Quote The CDC is scheduled to publish data Friday that will back Walensky’s controversial decision to change guidance for fully vaccinated people. She said Tuesday the CDC was recommending that even fully vaccinated people wear masks indoors in places where transmission of the virus is sustained or high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Literally the very next sentence in the article, after the stuff worms posted is... BECAUSE OF A BUNCH OF GAYS IN PTOWN!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Literally the very next sentence in the article, after the stuff worms posted is... So they haven't published the data. Thanks for confirming my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Strike said: So they haven't published the data. Thanks for confirming my point. https://www.wcvb.com/article/cdc-analysis-shows-74-of-provincetown-cases-occurred-in-vaccinated-individuals/37182364 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, edjr said: https://www.wcvb.com/article/cdc-analysis-shows-74-of-provincetown-cases-occurred-in-vaccinated-individuals/37182364 It's like you people don't know what the word "data" means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: Good strategy. Both caught covid but one vaccinated. For one Mississippi couple who caught Covid-19, their outcomes provide a growing contrast. The wife, who is vaccinated, recovered after 10 days. But her unvaccinated husband has been in the hospital for 22 days and counting. So the vaccinations are the only differences in their medical histories? I noticed in the article they mentioned the wife having asthma. Also noticed that they didn't mention one word about her husband. Kind of weird, no? Wonder why that is? Couldn't be because he had other ailments, could it? Other extenuating circumstances? No, just the vaccine, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,608 Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Strike said: It's like you people don't know what the word "data" means. that IS the data you squid. That is what she used. It's a farce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,297 Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Strike said: So they haven't published the data. Thanks for confirming my point. Quote Individuals who are fully vaccinated against the coronavirus but become infected could harbor just as much virus as infected, unvaccinated people, according to a study published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 2 hours ago. What did you tell me once...oh yeah... 'not my fault you can't stay atop current events.' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 God some of you guys are pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted July 30, 2021 48 minutes ago, Strike said: I'm not asking you to release data. I'm asking you to explain why they don't, and, if you can't why you are willing to follow them blindly. And why you take issue with those of us who are skeptical of them when they won't release that data. I’m not willing to follow anyone blindly I highly doubt they’re making it up, but you’re right that others should be able to analyze and review the data and I’m sure that will happen soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted July 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, Strike said: So they haven't published the data. Thanks for confirming my point. Your “point” is focking dumb you belligerent dipsh1t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Your “point” is focking dumb you belligerent dipsh1t And yet here you are, being the good lemming, simply because you "doubt" they would make it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 997 Posted July 30, 2021 The "online Coronavirus calculator" https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator My absolute mortality rate is 4.1 per 1,000,000 or 0.00041%. I haven't been vaccinated and I can snort lines of coronavirus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, OldMaid said: 1. It was leaked to the Washington Post and was later confirmed by the CDC. 2. I don’t think there is a specific test just for Delta-if I’m understanding your question right. 1. Yeah, sure they did, Swoosie. 2. Correct. Which means all reports you hear of "Delta variant" this and "Delta variant" that are misinformation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Strike said: Can't way one way or another. But there's no reason they can't release the data that I can imagine. So, why aren't they? Saying I don't trust them, with the amount of flip flopping and changing guidance over the last year, would be an understatement. Fauci is a liar, and the CDC is incompetent. Why would I trust them? Release the data and let other scientists who don't have a political agenda evaluate it. Be nice, one of of our own works at cdc. Peenie never had anything to say in the covid topics. I assume she's prohibited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted July 30, 2021 i had it and beat it. almost want it again. it'll become like a lil b;tch cold to me. im never wearing a mask again and my immune system will be superior. meanwhile cucks will be on their 10th vaccine shot with 3 masks on, a tumor growing out of their head and then probably croak from the next time they get a common cold. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Be nice, one of of our own works at cdc. Peenie never had anything to say in the covid topics. I assume she's prohibited. Do we know she works there? I knew she was a lab person but didn't know where. But I don't care. The CDC has been incompetent since day one on this virus. That doesn't mean Peenie. She's a lab rat. She's not the one making the decisions and setting policy. If she were she wouldn't be constantly complaining about money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Strike said: Do we know she works there? I knew she was a lab person but didn't know where. But I don't care. The CDC has been incompetent since day one on this virus. That doesn't mean Peenie. She's a lab rat. She's not the one making the decisions and setting policy. If she were she wouldn't be constantly complaining about money. I'm pretty sure she's said she has before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted July 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: 1. Yeah, sure they did, Swoosie. 2. Correct. Which means all reports you hear of "Delta variant" this and "Delta variant" that are misinformation. Since you asked a question that gave me pause… I went off on a google search to see how they detect the delta variant and more info. I’m going to post a link from the American Lung Association (which hopefully you don’t consider a "liberal rag" for your purview: https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-19-delta-variant But by all means, feel free to follow someone on Twitter that "knows better" if that helps you sleep at night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted July 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Since you asked a question that gave me pause… I went off on a google search to see how they detect the delta variant and more info. I’m going to post a link from the American Lung Association (which hopefully you don’t consider a "liberal rag" for your purview: https://www.lung.org/blog/covid-19-delta-variant But by all means, feel free to follow someone on Twitter that "knows better" if that helps you sleep at night. CO got d1ck slapped! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted July 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: CO got d1ck slapped! Yeah, one more doctor's opinion. Oh boy, what a "dlck slap" that was. Whatever that phag term means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: CO got d1ck slapped! Om is a lady. He got meat curtain slapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted July 30, 2021 11 hours ago, 5-Points said: Exactly. I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's better to get it and let your immune system do it's thing. Natural immunity > vaccine, for low/no risk individuals and society as a whole. Please explain. The reported (and likely inflated) "vaccine death rate" is far lower than the death rate from the virus. One could argue "well it's not guaranteed you'll get the virus" but you're throwing that out the window with this claim. And don't give me the "don't know the long-term effects" excuse, you don't know the long-term effects of covid either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted July 30, 2021 Fear fear fear!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, TimmySmith said: They also think that maybe the vaccine has little effect at best. No "they" don't. Unless by they you mean lod001. 3 hours ago, TimmySmith said: Fauci himself debunked the bolded part. The last part could be true about the variants, according to what they are saying. No he didn't. No they didn't say that, unless by they you mean lod001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted July 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Strike said: Can't way one way or another. But there's no reason they can't release the data that I can imagine. So, why aren't they? Saying I don't trust them, with the amount of flip flopping and changing guidance over the last year, would be an understatement. Fauci is a liar, and the CDC is incompetent. Why would I trust them? Release the data and let other scientists who don't have a political agenda evaluate it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/cdc-breakthrough-infections/94390e3a-5e45-44a5-ac40-2744e4e25f2e/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/cdc-breakthrough-infections/94390e3a-5e45-44a5-ac40-2744e4e25f2e/ That's not data. That's analysis. And as I said earlier I don't trust the CDC to do that analysis. Put the data out there and let third parties confirm the conclusions, before we lock down the country again. FFS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, edjr said: it's from p-town orgies, that is why it is more transmissible. seems like the case huh https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w "demographics of cases likely reflect those of attendees at the public gatherings, as events were marketed to adult male participants; further study is underway to identify other population characteristics among cases, such as additional demographic characteristics and underlying health conditions including immunocompromising conditions" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Strike said: That's not data. That's analysis. And as I said earlier I don't trust the CDC to do that analysis. Put the data out there and let third parties confirm the conclusions, before we lock down the country again. FFS. I think "the data" they're talking about is the Provincetown thing (link to report above) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Strike said: before we lock down the country again. FFS. Personally, I'd see it burn first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, TimHauck said: Those were the slides. I think "the data" they're talking about is the Provincetown thing I don't care. I keep asking for data and you idiots keep posting links to stories about analysis/conclusions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Personally, I'd see it burn first. Right, and given the messaging and idiocy coming from our government, there's gonna be a lot of pushback to new restrictions. Most people are ignoring the new mask mandates already. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Strike said: I don't care. I keep asking for data and you idiots keep posting links to stories about analysis/conclusions. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w Maybe more specifically: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w#F1_down It also links to Massachusetts data at the bottom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites