Kitchen Appreciation Fee

[wiffleball 4,797]

New local pizza place shows up in town. I checked them out. In very fine print on the menu that they don't provide:

 

"A 5% kitchen appreciation fee will be added to all checks."

 

This just pissed me off on principle. So...

 

1. " what if I don't order food? Tab still subject to that 5% fee?"

2." Why don't you just gross your food items up by 5% and pay your kitchen staff that incremental amount each night at tip out?"

 

3. " I mean, that's what it is right? Forced tip? You guys are giving your kitchen staff that appreciation fee right? Or is it just additional profits?"

 

4. "How do we know that fee is being distributed to the kitchen staff in the first place? So, I don't mind giving 5% extra to the kitchen staff. Just let me do it directly. Okay?"

 

Clueless piercing, tat canvas of a 'Manager'. 

 

"Uh, um, ah well, ahh.."

 

Good Talk. 

[fandandy 3,314]

Tipping is archaic and needs to be abolished.  No business should legally be allowed to pay any employee less than minimum wage and expect their patrons to pick up the slack.

Suck it.  

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

It's just a made up fee in order to offset expenses.  A lot of businesses do similar things.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Will the kitchen ever see money from this "fee"?  Probably not. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

35 minutes ago, fandandy said:

Tipping is archaic and needs to be abolished.  No business should legally be allowed to pay any employee less than minimum wage and expect their patrons to pick up the slack.

Suck it.  

Few people will wait tables for minimum wage alone. And for the ones that would, expect your service to go to shlt. Why would I want to bust my ass for people's demands and complaints throughout a full day if I could simply get the same wage stocking groceries?

[TimmySmith 2,783]

6 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Few people will wait tables for minimum wage alone. And for the ones that would, expect your service to go to shlt. Why would I want to bust my ass for people's demands and complaints throughout a full day if I could simply get the same wage stocking groceries?

Few restaurants could operate if they had to pay minimum wage to staff. 

[wiffleball 4,797]

13 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Few restaurants could operate if they had to pay minimum wage to staff. 

Yet, somehow the rest of the world has it figured out. 

[wiffleball 4,797]

50 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's just a made up fee in order to offset expenses.  A lot of businesses do similar things.

I used to work for utilities and telecoms. I'm keenly aware that line item b*******. 

But it gets ridiculous. We all know about overhead. Which explains why we put up with the idea that we will pay $12 for eggs and bacon when actual  COGS is $1.23

[TimmySmith 2,783]

18 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Yet, somehow the rest of the world has it figured out. 

Go figure.  Maybe serving sh1t food to fat people is the key to making millions. 

[Cruzer 1,996]

Some places here have Mixed Beverage Sales Tax fees. 

As if $12 for mimosas weren't enuff, you get popped with that. 

[NorthernVike 2,100]

Cheap focks don't tip.  Don't be a cheap fock.  

[Frozenbeernuts 2,439]

They could just raise food prices. Or they tell you exactly how much more the bill is. They need to pay their employees extra to keep them. Shlt wages in the back of the kitchen doing a shltty job is catching up with the restaurant industry. Don't like it, cook it yourself.

[TheNewGirl 1,638]

I think a lot of restaurants did this to make up for Covid shut downs, didn't they? Fewer customers and then most orders were delivery or DoorDash. 

[DonS 3,330]

43 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Some places here have Mixed Beverage Sales Tax fees. 

As if $12 for mimosas weren't enuff, you get popped with that. 

"Mixed Beverages Sales Tax fees"???  So if you get beer / wine / shots there is no fee? 

[wiffleball 4,797]

50 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

They could just raise food prices. Or they tell you exactly how much more the bill is. They need to pay their employees extra to keep them. Shlt wages in the back of the kitchen doing a shltty job is catching up with the restaurant industry. Don't like it, cook it yourself.

That's exactly what I'm saying. By the way, I know their dishwashers make 15 bucks an hour, so I don't think their kitchen is working for less than minimum. Maybe their wait staff. But not the kitchen staff.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

It’s been this way for a while now. Prices keep going up but people don’t want to pay higher prices. So your choices are:

1. Make your product sh1ttier. You constantly see this stuff with durable goods, every year they cut another corner here and go with a cheap replacement there until it’s just a poor copy of what it used to be. Clothing, appliances, electronics, furniture, household goods etc.

2. Add on bullsh1t fees and whatnot. That’s what you’ve been seeing with restaurants and stuff and of course the telecoms and so forth have been doing this for a long, long time.

3. Go ”upscale” and just charge a big price. It’s actually not even upscale, it’s just what used to be the norm and is now too expensive. Actual upscale stuff is reserved for the likes of Jeff Bezos etc and you and I could never even dream of it.

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

In order to try to keep our employees longer we just gave everyone a $3 raise a couple weeks ago.  It's been so hard trying to keep employees and find new ones.  In order to afford doing that we raised our labor rate and cut out some of the extra bonuses we gave at the end of the year.

[Alias Detective 1,474]

49 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

In order to try to keep our employees longer we just gave everyone a $3 raise a couple weeks ago.  It's been so hard trying to keep employees and find new ones.  In order to afford doing that we raised our labor rate and cut out some of the extra bonuses we gave at the end of the year.

So the guy who got a $3 and hour raise spent it on increased labor costs.  Great job liberals.  Raise minimum wage to $500 an hour and in short order a hamburger will cost $350 because the cost ALWAYS gets passed onto the consumer.

 

 

[wiffleball 4,797]

4 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

So the guy who got a $3 and hour raise spent it on increased labor costs.  Great job liberals.  Raise minimum wage to $500 an hour and in short order a hamburger will cost $350 because the cost ALWAYS gets passed onto the consumer.

 

 

...I don't think you read his entire post.   

 

Dummy

[Alias Detective 1,474]

10 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

the cost ALWAYS gets passed onto the consumer.

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

...I don't think you read his entire post.   

 

Dummy

I feel bad with all you are dealing with.  I made my post easier for you to read.

idiot.

[5-Points 3,839]

2 hours ago, NorthernVike said:

Cheap focks don't tip.  Don't be a cheap fock.  

This

ETA: My wife and I went out to dinner once and the server was focking horrible. Inattentive, couldn't get anything right. I'd ask for one thing, he would eventually bring something different.... 

The bus boy OTOH was great! Always coming by to see if we needed more water or bread or anything. When the appetizers were finished he was right  there to clean off the table. Same when the main was finished. 

When we were done, the server got the absolute minimum gratuity. I think I gave him like $5 on a $100 tab. I chased the bus boy down and gave him $20 and told him put it in his pocket. 

I tip well for good service. If you suck you get sh!t. 

[Cruzer 1,996]

3 hours ago, DonS said:

"Mixed Beverages Sales Tax fees"???  So if you get beer / wine / shots there is no fee? 

Ha, I think so. I don't think all the establishments pass it on to the customer, but some do. 

[easilyscan 1,080]

3 hours ago, NorthernVike said:

Cheap focks don't tip.  Don't be a cheap fock.  

When it's a sit down restaurant, or pizza/food delivery, I always tip generously.

What gets me is carryout. Call or order online, pick up your order, & when you put in your credit card, the display asks how much you'd like to tip. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

8 hours ago, fandandy said:

Tipping is archaic and needs to be abolished.  No business should legally be allowed to pay any employee less than minimum wage and expect their patrons to pick up the slack.

Suck it.  

Absolutely not.  

[wiffleball 4,797]

Talked to some of the staff tonight. It was f****** news to them.

 

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

10 hours ago, fandandy said:

Tipping is archaic and needs to be abolished.  No business should legally be allowed to pay any employee less than minimum wage and expect their patrons to pick up the slack.

Suck it.  

I agree and disagree.

EXPECTED tipping should be abolished.

When I receive exceptional service, when an employee goes above and beyond to ensure I have a good experience, I love giving them a good tip.

Here in China, tipping isn't a thing. At all. They often get offended if you do. The only exception is hookers, as I guess they're well past being offended. I don't like that either.

But yeah, our tipping system is merely yet another way we subsidize the corporate class.

[fandandy 3,314]

5 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I agree and disagree.

EXPECTED tipping should be abolished.

When I receive exceptional service, when an employee goes above and beyond to ensure I have a good experience, I love giving them a good tip.

Here in China, tipping isn't a thing. At all. They often get offended if you do. The only exception is hookers, as I guess they're well past being offended. I don't like that either.

But yeah, our tipping system is merely yet another way we subsidize the corporate class.

I just don't understand why one specific industry in the US is allowed to pay a pittance to their employees (3.67 an hour currently in Michigan).

WTF?

Why can't I pay my employees 3.67 and have a tip jar?

Why only bartenders and waitresses?

Piss off.

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

13 minutes ago, fandandy said:

I just don't understand why one specific industry in the US is allowed to pay a pittance to their employees (3.67 an hour currently in Michigan).

WTF?

Why can't I pay my employees 3.67 and have a tip jar?

Why only bartenders and waitresses?

Piss off.

 

Completely agree. 100%

As a former restaurant manager, it creates huge headaches as well. Nobody wants to be a cook or hostess and miss out on those sweet tips. 

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

On 8/4/2021 at 5:13 PM, Alias Detective said:

So the guy who got a $3 and hour raise spent it on increased labor costs.  Great job liberals.  Raise minimum wage to $500 an hour and in short order a hamburger will cost $350 because the cost ALWAYS gets passed onto the consumer.

 

 

In most cases, yes.  Increased expenses have to be made up in some way.  It's the nature of running a business.

[kutulu 1,724]

 I don't tip because society says I have to, I'll tip if someone really puts forth the effort. Tipping automatically is for the birds.

[BiPolarBear 497]

The Marcos pizza in my neighborhood had a tip jar on the counter. the kids there were always very pleasant to me. I ask them if they got the tips and they told me no.