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How many jab boosters are you gonna take?

How many jab boosters are you gonna take?  

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  1. 1. Before ya wake up and realize they do nothing.

    • 1 -The 3rd times a charm
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    • 2 - I'll give it one more shot so to speak. Four jabs should do the trick.
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    • 3 - If it ends up killing me, I was dead on jab #1 so keep 'em coming.
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    • 4 - I'm starting to figure this out that it doesn't work but give me # 4 anyway.
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    • 5 - Keep 'em coming. I'm a complete idiot.
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    • Why would I ever take this useless crap?
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    • I focked up but they aren't fooling me again.
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None of the poll choices fit for me.  I believe in (and received) the vaccine for 2 shots.  I won't be getting a 3rd shot.

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6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

This doesn't seem to be much of an argument for boosters though.  Definitely need some more data on those.

What argument? 

If you believed in the vax's initial prevention qualities you believe it, and you are not wrong - the numbers suggest you are right.

Nobody said it was absolute, ever lasting............if you need a boost, you need a boost. We've never seen anything like this before, to compare it to the Flu or anything else is just stupid. 

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4 hours ago, lod001 said:

ok, so they in a nice way told you it was dangerous & useless for a virus that kills fatties at a rate of 0.2% and 78% of those have 2+ comorbidities. 

BTW, that's not the definition of a vaccine. 

Vaccine definition: a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity

None of these jabs provide immunity or you wouldn't have to go back for jab after jab. The idiot talking heads want ya to wear a mask even with the jab. That's not immunity.

What you got at best is a treatment at the risk of possible serious complications in the future.

80% of new cases/hospitalizations are from non-vaxed people.............let your jab idiot philosophy chew on that. 

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My wife tends to get every focking bug that comes down the pipe.  I mentioned before she got a positive result for the covid yesterday, she said most likely it was the delta variant from what she could make out. She also said it was the most sick she has been since she got mono back in college... I'm wondering how she would have made out without the vaccine.  I'll get the booster, I mean realistically I'm on the back nine anyway (51 in a few months) so I'll let take my chances with the vaccines. Haven't felt sick at all myself but think I'll get tested this weekend for shitts and giggles.

 

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To answer the question, I got no problem getting a shot every six months. Course I'd rather it get improved and not need to be so frequent, but even if not life threatening I'd rather not be sick than be sick if I can avoid it.

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6 minutes ago, kutulu said:

To answer the question, I got no problem getting a shot every six months. Course I'd rather it get improved and not need to be so frequent, but even if not life threatening I'd rather not be sick than be sick if I can avoid it.

Yeah, I'll probably do the same if and when they advise a third shot of sinovax. The first two didn't hurt me, and I'm fat. If I get it, I probably die.

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10 hours ago, Cruzer said:

80% of new cases/hospitalizations are from non-vaxed people.............let your jab idiot philosophy chew on that. 

You guys need to get your number straight. 80% / 90% / 76%

You're all over the place. The hospitals are packed... not a car in the parking lot. 

Are you catching on that nobody here believes your Scientific religion? Your experts are just soap box preachers. Your masks are your talisman. Your MRNA shot is your blood of Christ.

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11 hours ago, Cruzer said:

80% of new cases/hospitalizations are from non-vaxed people.............let your jab idiot philosophy chew on that. 

Wrong as fock. Give it time.

Go see Israel. They are ahead of every other country as far as getting people jabbed. The % of vaxxed infected and in the hospital is now 59%.

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On 8/18/2021 at 10:58 AM, Cruzer said:

Can always count on the GC - land of the armchair economists, politicians, scientists, medical experts - all more knowing than the professionals. 

I'm 51 now, don't have the immune system I did at 25. My parents are both up in years and high risk - if the medical doctors/experts tell me to keep taking boosters, I'll do it. Given the world we live in and all the other shiit we put in our bodies, I'm hardly scared of something the FDA is okay with - my Chicken Little, Sky Is Falling days are over. 

I'm with you man.  GC is annoying beyond belief. I just have one question though. The vax does not make you immune from getting the covid, it only helps with the symptoms. Having the vax, you could have the covid and not even know it. Sadly, I can't see how this prevents you from giving it to others. 

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39 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Wrong as fock. Give it time.

Go see Israel. They are ahead of every other country as far as getting people jabbed. The % of vaxxed infected and in the hospital is now 59%.

Look, I understand concerns about the vaccine:  long term impacts, effect on children, possible role in the generation of more serious variants, etc.  But as for the efficacy in reducing cases and severity of what we have today, it works pretty well, and every time you post stuff like this it bothers me that you just don't understand how the math works.  Others have tried to explain it, let me try a different way.  Say 100% of Israel were vaccinated.  You could then come and post, quite accurately I might add, that 100% of the cases in Israeli hospitals are vaccinated people!!!  The vax is causing Covid, get rid of it and it all goes away!!!

I don't know if it helps you to see the problem with your analysis.  :cheers:

 

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13 hours ago, Cruzer said:

What argument? 

If you believed in the vax's initial prevention qualities you believe it, and you are not wrong - the numbers suggest you are right.

Nobody said it was absolute, ever lasting............if you need a boost, you need a boost. We've never seen anything like this before, to compare it to the Flu or anything else is just stupid. 

Yeah I'm sure it can't hurt against covid.   I think the question is how much it helps, vs. if there are any additional side effects which we don't have much data on yet.  Since we know the side effects were typically worse after the 2nd dose compared to the 1st, does that mean the 3rd will be even worse than the 2nd?

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Look, I understand concerns about the vaccine:  long term impacts, effect on children, possible role in the generation of more serious variants, etc.  But as for the efficacy in reducing cases and severity of what we have today, it works pretty well, and every time you post stuff like this it bothers me that you just don't understand how the math works.  Others have tried to explain it, let me try a different way.  Say 100% of Israel were vaccinated.  You could then come and post, quite accurately I might add, that 100% of the cases in Israeli hospitals are vaccinated people!!!  The vax is causing Covid, get rid of it and it all goes away!!!

I don't know if it helps you to see the problem with your analysis.  :cheers:

 

I honestly feel people that have lost their minds over this stuff. 

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2 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

None! My body my choice.

Does this mean that certain forms of abortion are now acceptable? 

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36 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Does this mean that certain forms of abortion are now acceptable? 

No, but I am not going to stop mothers from getting them. I don’t want to pay for them, that is all.

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Just read that our Senator has Covid. Which is fantastic. Because I'm pretty sure Governor has AIDS.

 

Great, now I'm going to have to wear a mask and a condom to work.

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2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Does this mean that certain forms of abortion are now acceptable? 

I think that baby should have a say. It is their body your friends are trying to cut in half 

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4 hours ago, edjr said:

I honestly feel people that have lost their minds over this stuff. 

I just want things to go back to when I was just a Nazi trump supporter instead of an antivax, antiscience, antimask, want grandma to die, Nazi trump supporter.

 

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2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Does this mean that certain forms of abortion are now acceptable? 

Nah. Babies are always dependent upon someone. But they are their own person. They aren't old enough to choose to live or be slaughtered.

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Read this very carefully... the more people vaccinated in a sample of people, for example the people of Israel, the higher the percentage of vaccinated people in hospitals with Covid compared to unvaccinated people in hospitals with Covid.  It is an incorrect conclusion to apply that percentage to another sample of people (e.g. the United States) because a higher percentage of unvaccinated people in the United States means a higher percentage of unvaccinated Covid patients in hospitals in the U.S.

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On 8/18/2021 at 12:15 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

I haven't gotten any shots yet so no booster for me.  I still haven't decided if I'm going to get one yet.  The experts say that they recommend those who already had COVID to still get the shot because it's suppose to boost our immunity even more.  I might just get one shot, we'll see.

Same here with not getting the shot yet. I'll prolly give in once the mighty FDA approves the Phizer one in a few weeks, though. 

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2 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

Same here with not getting the shot yet. I'll prolly give in once the mighty FDA approves the Phizer one in a few weeks, though. 

Does FDA approval mean anything to you at this point?

For one, it's a rush job.

For another, there is absolutely no way they would ever be allowed not to approve it now, AFTER administering billions of doses world wide. Simply won't happen,  whether effective or not, or what long term dangers may exist. 

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3 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Does FDA approval mean anything to you at this point?

For one, it's a rush job.

For another, there is absolutely no way they would ever be allowed not to approve it now, AFTER administering billions of doses world wide. Simply won't happen,  whether effective or not, or what long term dangers may exist. 

No, FDA approval doesn't mean much to me, I was being sarcastic. 
Plus it's kind of obvious why the rush job, right?  
Isn't there a deadline coming up real quick (mid September?) for all federal employees to show proof of the jabbing?  Not too sure on this, but was told to me as the main reason FDA is rushing it. :dunno:

Either way, the other one scares me with the side effect of the second jab, so fuk them :banana:

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2 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

No, FDA approval doesn't mean much to me, I was being sarcastic. 
Plus it's kind of obvious why the rush job, right?  
Isn't there a deadline coming up real quick (mid September?) for all federal employees to show proof of the jabbing?  Not too sure on this, but was told to me as the main reason FDA is rushing it. :dunno:

Either way, the other one scares me with the side effect of the second jab, so fuk them :banana:

They other thing you never hear about...

How much has phizer, and the others made from this vaccine? Gotta be trillions.

Trust the scientists? The ones paid by the drug companies?

How much have the drug companies “donated” to both political parties, and parties abroad?

Trust the politicians who depend on this money to keep their power?

At the end of the day, I believe the vax is probably marginally better than not having it. But that said, why should anyone trust any of this at this point?

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31 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

They other thing you never hear about...

How much has phizer, and the others made from this vaccine? Gotta be trillions

 

 

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51 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Does FDA approval mean anything to you at this point?

For one, it's a rush job.

For another, there is absolutely no way they would ever be allowed not to approve it now, AFTER administering billions of doses world wide. Simply won't happen,  whether effective or not, or what long term dangers may exist. 

I figured this would be where the goalposts would be moved to once FDA approval became imminent.  

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10 hours ago, edjr said:

I'm with you man.  GC is annoying beyond belief. I just have one question though. The vax does not make you immune from getting the covid, it only helps with the symptoms. Having the vax, you could have the covid and not even know it. Sadly, I can't see how this prevents you from giving it to others. 

If you have it you have it - can spread it.... The vax has proven to lessen your likelihood of catching it though - by large numbers in fact. 

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10 hours ago, lod001 said:

Wrong as fock. Give it time.

Go see Israel. They are ahead of every other country as far as getting people jabbed. The % of vaxxed infected and in the hospital is now 59%.

I agree, you're wrong as fock - but you're entitled to be. 

Israel seems to be an outlier. As long as you're pulling countries of the hat to make a point, check out Spain..........hell, check out the US. 

The Delta strain appears to be more resistant to the vax than other strains. The other strains, the vax has been extremely successful. 

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12 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

You guys need to get your number straight. 80% / 90% / 76%

You're all over the place. The hospitals are packed... not a car in the parking lot. 

Are you catching on that nobody here believes your Scientific religion? Your experts are just soap box preachers. Your masks are your talisman. Your MRNA shot is your blood of Christ.

I don't know who you guys are, or what scientific religion you seem to be gravely ignorant on believing I belong to. 

I was against masks from the start, try and keep up. 

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25 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

How the fock is that even possible? They get a windfall drug that has sold billions of doses... SOMEONE is paying for this sh!t...

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I figured this would be where the goalposts would be moved to once FDA approval became imminent.  

Do you trust anything you hear from the government at this point? Seriously?

You believe that the administration would allow anything other than approval?

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13 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

I don't know who you guys are, or what scientific religion you seem to be gravely ignorant on believing I belong to. 

I was against masks from the start, try and keep up. 

You guys are the people who spout the 80% of people in the hospital are nonvaxxed. You guys, have spouted all kinds of numbers. 

Where did you get your 80% number? And why do you believe it to be true?

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So, some know I work for  Catholic Charities. At least on my days off.

 

Our state is passing out $100 Walmart gift cards to anybody who gets vaxed. Jesus, I swear there's countless number of homeless people who have been vaxxed a dozen times by now.

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1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

You guys are the people who spout the 80% of people in the hospital are nonvaxxed. You guys, have spouted all kinds of numbers. 

Where did you get your 80% number? And why do you believe it to be true?

The #'s aren't all over the place bcoz they're fluky, the #s are all over the place bcoz they pertain to different areas. 80% is a number from Spain, there are numbes in the 90% range on other areas such as deaths and new cases. 

80% of new COVID-19 cases in Spain among non-vaccinated people, health minister says (yahoo.com)

99% of COVID deaths are now of unvaccinated people, experts say - CNET

80% of new COVID cases in county are among unvaccinated | Covid-19 | beloitdailynews.com

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Honestly, if the government was smart, theyd be working on ways to up the mortality of this virus. Nobody gives a s*** if you get the virus and get over it. If you really want people to take it seriously? You got to go Spanish Flu/Plague on them.

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Five things I believe, that can all be true at the same time:

1.  Vaccinated adults have a lesser chance of catching Covid, being hospitalized by Covid and dying from Covid.

2.  Lock-downs do not work over time, the negative effects outweigh the positives.

3.   Gov't mask mandates and vaccination requirements are Un-American.

4.  If a private store or restaurant or whatever asks you to wear a mask, don't be a douche.  Either throw one on, leave or don't patron at all.  

5.  Leave the kids alone

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18 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

So, some know I work for  Catholic Charities. At least on my days off.

 

Our state is passing out $100 Walmart gift cards to anybody who gets vaxed. Jesus, I swear there's countless number of homeless people who have been vaxxed a dozen times by now.

The drug makers are shielded from liability. I'm not so sure people like this are...

Would be amusing to see some of these people paying people to get a vax get hit with a lawsuit. 

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2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

They other thing you never hear about...

How much has phizer, and the others made from this vaccine? Gotta be trillions.

Trust the scientists? The ones paid by the drug companies?

How much have the drug companies “donated” to both political parties, and parties abroad?

Trust the politicians who depend on this money to keep their power?

At the end of the day, I believe the vax is probably marginally better than not having it. But that said, why should anyone trust any of this at this point?

I really don't. I'm just buying some time promising some of my family that I'm gonna get it. :)

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On 8/18/2021 at 9:02 AM, lod001 said:

But you have figured out that it doesn't work, right? I mean the 1st 2 jabs failed and the 3rd jab is the same crap so.....um...it won't work either.

My brother-in-law's brother died this week from Covid.  They spoke Monday  and he said he was starting to feel better then nobody could contact him.  They found him yesterday after nobody could get a hold of him Tuesday. 

I guess he was a drinker and smoker and in his 60's but pretty good health otherwise.   I do not wear masks and only have when forced.  I am sick of it all but to say it does not work is just not true.  The people dying and getting really sick are usually older,  have other conditions plus they are not vaccinated.  If you are young and in good health and want to skip it I get it.  You will probably be fine but saying it does not work is pretty stupid imo. 

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On 8/18/2021 at 9:08 PM, kutulu said:

My wife tends to get every focking bug that comes down the pipe.  I mentioned before she got a positive result for the covid yesterday, she said most likely it was the delta variant from what she could make out. She also said it was the most sick she has been since she got mono back in college... I'm wondering how she would have made out without the vaccine.  I'll get the booster, I mean realistically I'm on the back nine anyway (51 in a few months) so I'll let take my chances with the vaccines. Haven't felt sick at all myself but think I'll get tested this weekend for shitts and giggles.

 

Hope she feels better soon. Electrolytes, Quercetin (sp*) or NAC, Zinc, D3. 

From all the many anecdotes I'm aware of, this is hitting people harder, at least for sure hitting people in 30s - 60s relatively hard.

Food for thought..

 

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