So, I'm going to be fired in the next couple of weeks. Vaccine.

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

No proof that it works better than acquired immunity. 

You are intentionally obtuse

"Acquired immunity" is better than "natural immunity," and there are no legitimate studies that say the vaccine or  getting it works better because there isn't a long enough period of study.

Perhaps you should study your terms though.

[TimHauck 1,807]

11 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

No proof that it works better than acquired immunity. 

Correct.   Natural immunity is better if you already had covid.   If not, then the vaccine is better (even if you do still eventually get covid).

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Correct.   Natural immunity is better if you already had covid.   If not, then the vaccine is better (even if you do still eventually get covid).

Heart inflamation is awesome. Go get the drug shot into you!!! All the cool kids are doing it.

[lod001 1,237]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Based off of what?

Based off the fact the the jab juice is a miserable failure and people that have been double jabbed are getting it. It cannot be any simpler than that unless you plan on living in a bubble. IT IS NEVER GOING AWAY. 

You can be asymptomatic you know. My dad and brother are, I'm sure I am as well as I have been in contact with at least 6 people with covid.

[lod001 1,237]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

That doesn't say what you think it says you reading comprehension challenged individual

Doesn't get any simpler than this, retard: 

Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection

People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime

 

[TimHauck 1,807]

33 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Heart inflamation is awesome. Go get the drug shot into you!!! All the cool kids are doing it.

Myocarditis is a risk of covid infection too, possibly even moreso.   But myocarditis is also why I'm skeptical young people (under ~25 or so) need 2 doses and why I don't think a 3rd dose should be recommended for healthy people at least until we have more data.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are intentionally obtuse

"Acquired immunity" is better than "natural immunity," and there are no legitimate studies that say the vaccine or  getting it works better because there isn't a long enough period of study.

Perhaps you should study your terms though.

Natural immunity is good enough to fight it off.  But the immunity acquired by having it is far better than the vaccine.  Not that the jabbers care about any of that, they just want you to get the jab.  And you are their stooge. 

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

1 hour ago, lod001 said:

Doesn't get any simpler than this, retard: 

Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection

People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime

 

 

Again- that does not mean what you think it means. But just to help "can last lifetime" does not equal "never get it again." Read a book or two for goodness sake

And again with the lack of maturity from you. Grow up.

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

16 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Natural immunity is good enough to fight it off.  But the immunity acquired by having it is far better than the vaccine.  Not that the jabbers care about any of that, they just want you to get the jab.  And you are their stooge. 

 

You don't understand any of the medical stuff because some whack job on Facebook or the dark web convinced you they were right and you are too much of a dolt to question them. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

You don't understand any of the medical stuff because some whack job on Facebook or the dark web convinced you they were right and you are too much of a dolt to question them. 

fauci is on the dark web?

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You have nothing to argue so you just make emojis. Cool. Again- what dictatorship did you live under?

Arguing with someone with severe TDS is not worth it. No logic involved from the libs. 

 

[Alias Detective 1,180]

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday is announcing sweeping new federal vaccine requirements affecting as many as 100 million Americans in an all-out effort to increase COVID-19 vaccinations and curb the surging delta variant that is killing thousands each week and jeopardizing the nation’s economic recovery.

The expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans. And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated.

[Gladiators 1,904]

2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday is announcing sweeping new federal vaccine requirements affecting as many as 100 million Americans in an all-out effort to increase COVID-19 vaccinations and curb the surging delta variant that is killing thousands each week and jeopardizing the nation’s economic recovery.

The expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans. And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated.

This will go over well...

[Hawkeye21 1,858]

3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday is announcing sweeping new federal vaccine requirements affecting as many as 100 million Americans in an all-out effort to increase COVID-19 vaccinations and curb the surging delta variant that is killing thousands each week and jeopardizing the nation’s economic recovery.

The expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans. And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated.

What a load of BS.

[Alias Detective 1,180]

Biden is also signing an executive order to require vaccination for employees of the executive branch and contractors who do business with the federal government — with no option to test out. That covers several million more workers.

Biden was to announce the new requirements in a Thursday afternoon address from the White House as part of a new “action plan” to address the latest rise in coronavirus cases and the stagnating pace of COVID-19 shots that has raised doubts among the public over his handling of the pandemic.

 

[Alias Detective 1,180]

3 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

This will go over well...

 

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What a load of BS.

This is a tipping point.

[tikigods 76]

Shouldn’t Biden be more focused on the usual Liberal agenda like making it easier to kill fetuses or making it harder to kill criminals…or better yet banning guns??

[dogcows 1,029]

On 8/25/2021 at 1:07 AM, phillybear said:

It's cathartic in a way. 22+ years for a shitty organization, and place I hate, with co-workers I hate. But, like Dexter, there is a code. It's called work ethic. I've been working 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, holidays, I think I took a week off vacation in 2006, wasn't my idea.

The leadership voted that all employees need to be vaccinated. It's an organization with tens of thousands of employees. If you follow the data and demographics, you may have 50% to maybe upwards of 67% of all employees vaccinated. The organization is committing suicide by firing a huge chunk of employees in the next few weeks. They haven't been able to fill their vacancies, ever, in the past 30 years. Now, it's just...suicide by organization. Yeah, we can't find people to work these jobs, but let's fire everybody trying to find them.

Again, I've yet to come across anybody in my life affected by the Chinese Virus. The vaccine: 4 people are dead, additionally, one is paralyzed in a wheelchair by stroke, one lost feeling in their right leg, one had a miscarriage. I need to help my family, and the vaccine is more close to death than the Chinese Virus. Which is conflicting, since I don't want to help anyone.

I'm really at a loss that this is how society has devolved. I'm losing my job, not from performance, but medical condition. I am so furious, I am so going on a...you know what, a marathon of a Criminal Minds will make me chill out...I can't even begin to clarify my rage...that I can't find my remote control.

For those that hate me for my insults over the years. Middle finger. I'm getting better at trapping animals in my backyard. I am soooooooo going off the grid.

Your fiction writing needs a bit of work. Next time make up at least first names of the people dead or in wheelchairs.

If the part about you, an admitted day-drinker who takes 12 hours a day just to get their job done, quitting is true, can you tell us the company? I’d like to buy stock because it looks like they found a great way to cut loose the dead weight from their workforce.

[KSB2424 3,085]

14 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

 

This is a tipping point.

We’re getting closer.  Mine is when they mandate Covid vaccines for people under 18 to go to school.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

FJB

[Utilit99 4,099]

5 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Sounds more like private business...not governments...

creepy joey just said, "For companies over 100 employees, if you want to deal with the federal government, your employees must be vaccinated."

FJB!!!

[phillybear 364]

27 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Your fiction writing needs a bit of work. Next time make up at least first names of the people dead or in wheelchairs.

If the part about you, an admitted day-drinker who takes 12 hours a day just to get their job done, quitting is true, can you tell us the company? I’d like to buy stock because it looks like they found a great way to cut loose the dead weight from their workforce.

This whole thread has turned into a disaster. Cool beans. Cool. Cool. Cool.

So, you want me to post names of dead people on a low rent message bored? Pass.

So, I crank out about 4000 reports a year. That's crazy, since I was doing about 1000 in 2010. Never got a raise. Biggest bump in pay I got was from the Trump tax cut. And not any of those reports where you hit a button, and send the results. You have to individually craft all of them. Some take 15 minutes, some take a week, depending on one's Excel skills. And it's multitasking. I like the problem solving elements when they arise. I would tell you that I was briefly a nationally highly ranked chess player in high school, but I will not provide evidence and it's likely nobody will believe it. That's fine.

But my career has hit the skids, clearly. Puzzles, like trolling message boreds, kept me occupied during the early 2000's or so. I perform miracles on a daily basis based on my nearly eidetic memory and institutional knowledge.

I'm a government worker, churn out endless reports all day long. Ad hoc style. You get requests all day long, and you react. It seems like the only fun is to drink and churn out those reports. Time passes by, the data is still perfectly accurate, and fock you to my bosses.

Thank you for the tax money you are spending to pay my salary. For the next few weeks, anyway. I will not pass on your unkind words to the family of the dead.

[phillybear 364]

So, I'm going to lose my job.

Nothing I signed up for. Something my employers made a rapid decision on, several decades after hiring me. An experimental medical procedure, not approved by any government agency, but I have to waive my rights to sue them, sue the manufacturers, where if take it and die, my remaining family cannot sue anybody. But if I refuse, I'm fired.

I'm far more concerned about the surviving the vaccine that the Chinese Biological Weapon. That's what is grinding my gears.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 hour ago, tikigods said:

Shouldn’t Biden be more focused on the usual Liberal agenda…or better yet banning guns??

Announcing forced violations of the human body and its inalienable rights is probably a good time to take away people's right to protect themselves. It’s coming.

 

[MDC 5,904]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

Your fiction writing needs a bit of work. Next time make up at least first names of the people dead or in wheelchairs.

If the part about you, an admitted day-drinker who takes 12 hours a day just to get their job done, quitting is true, can you tell us the company? I’d like to buy stock because it looks like they found a great way to cut loose the dead weight from their workforce.

PB also knows three people on his street alone who were killed by the vaccine. Local Philly news has been covering it up tho.

[BLS 313]

Phuc Joe Biden and his tyrannical bullshit.

[Brad GLuckman 518]

9 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

Your own post shows you acknowledge that none of this is about immunity.  So why? 

The vaccines have resulted in lower death rates and hospitalizations. Do you acknowledge this?

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

2 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

Arguing with someone with severe TDS is not worth it. No logic involved from the libs. 

 

#1- I'm not a liberal.

#2- This is what happens from a shallow minded person like you when they have nothing- they just attack the person. 

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

50 minutes ago, phillybear said:

So, I'm going to lose my job.

Nothing I signed up for. Something my employers made a rapid decision on, several decades after hiring me. An experimental medical procedure, not approved by any government agency, but I have to waive my rights to sue them, sue the manufacturers, where if take it and die, my remaining family cannot sue anybody. But if I refuse, I'm fired.

I'm far more concerned about the surviving the vaccine that the Chinese Biological Weapon. That's what is grinding my gears.

The FDA is a government agency and they approved all the vaccines for emergency use and the Pfizer one so far for full use. So you are wrong.

Here's an idea- stop being a pissy pants whining baby- sack up, get the poke, and finish out the last few years of your career before settling into retirement. Or you can whine on a fantasy football message board about how the man is holding you back. 

Also, your vaccine porn fear is fueled by idiots and you believe it. Maybe pull your head out of your ass and do some of your own research.

[Brad GLuckman 518]

2 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

 

This is a tipping point.

Ya, I think people should get vaccinated but measures like this go too far.

[KSB2424 3,085]

Just now, Brad GLuckman said:

Ya, I think people should get vaccinated but measures like this go too far.

Bingo.  What about people that have had Covid already with the antibodies?  Some people are allergic to vaccines.  It's not even recommended for children under 12 yet.  

Plus this is America last I checked.

[KSB2424 3,085]

Vaccines are one of the greatest inventions in human history,.  I took the Pfizer covid vaccine after careful consideration back in May.  However......

The first Smallpox vaccine was created in the late 1700's, yes you read that right.  However the disease was not fully eradicated until 1980.   Vaccines take time, its a journey, the first iteration normally is not the "best".     

smallpox timeline

I am over 40 and decided the cost vs benefit of getting a "new" vaccine was worth any potential risk.  My kids I am not so sure.....and its why I hate these mandates. 

I really wish the government would go with a "honey attracts more bees than vinegar" approach to vaccines.  Instead of demonizing anyone who questions just be transparent and put out all the information.  Instead we have Fauci caught lying and nobody can trust the media nor government.  And lets face it, nobody likes to be TOLD what to do.  It's a mess. 

[Fireballer 2,392]

JFC...LA needs to burn.  This is an outrage. This has NEA written all over it.

 

[Brad GLuckman 518]

5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I really wish the government would go with a "honey attracts more bees than vinegar" approach to vaccines.  Instead of demonizing anyone who questions just be transparent and put out all the information.  Instead we have Fauci caught lying and nobody can trust the media nor government.  And lets face it, nobody likes to be TOLD what to do.  It's a mess. 

Im not sure what the right approach is but Fauci should have been booted the second he was caught intentionally lying to the public. There are a lot of people who would be hesitant to get this vaccine but are now 100% against it because that piece of garbage eroded trust in the CDC and any government institution along with it.

[KSB2424 3,085]

9 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

JFC...LA needs to burn.  This is an outrage. This has NEA written all over it.

 

See, if this happen in North Carolina, we riot  peacefully protest.

Also the problem with this is the people who have financial capability will pull their kids out of public school, its happening already.  Then the public schools just get worse.  Watch.  

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

2 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

Im not sure what the right approach is but Fauci should have been booted the second he was caught intentionally lying to the public. There are a lot of people who would be hesitant to get this vaccine but are now 100% against it because that piece of garbage eroded trust in the CDC and any government institution along with it.

The minute the Orange Goblin continually undermined his scientists and health experts every step of the way a bunch of people made up their mind to not take the vaccine because they will do whatever the Great Pumpkin says

[Fireballer 2,392]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

 a bunch of people made up their mind to not take the vaccine because they will do whatever the Great Pumpkin says

Wanna bet?

[KSB2424 3,085]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The minute the Orange Goblin continually undermined his scientists and health experts every step of the way a bunch of people made up their mind to not take the vaccine because they will do whatever the Great Pumpkin says

The Orange Goblin initiated Operation Warp Speed that was essential in getting the vaccines developed and to market in record time.  That's what really happened.  

[5-Points 2,739]

3 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Thursday is announcing sweeping new federal vaccine requirements affecting as many as 100 million Americans in an all-out effort to increase COVID-19 vaccinations and curb the surging delta variant that is killing thousands each week and jeopardizing the nation’s economic recovery.

The expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans. And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated.

Fock this demented, corrupt, tyrannical piece of sh!t.  

[Brad GLuckman 518]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The minute the Orange Goblin continually undermined his scientists and health experts every step of the way a bunch of people made up their mind to not take the vaccine because they will do whatever the Great Pumpkin says

I would have agreed, but even he is getting booed for suggesting the vaccine to his followers now. Maybe those people would never get the vaccine (even though they are fine with all the others they likely have), but people kind of on the fence could have been pushed to one side because of Fauci.