Ehlana 25 Posted August 26, 2021 I would like to draft Waller if I can, but if that doesn't work out I plan on waiting at TE. The problem is I'm not sure who I like as a late round TE. I have four guys I'm looking: Irv Smith - Talented, but fourth in the pecking order behind Cook, Jefferson and Thielen. I'm not sure there are enough opportunities for him. Mike Gesicki - Technically a TE, but also lines up in slot. I think he has a reasonable chance at 4-6 catches most weeks, so he won't really leave me with 2 for 11 weeks. Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry - The problem is there's two of them, and I have no idea week to week which one will have a decent game. I like Jakobi Myers, but there are not a lot of WRs on this team to steal receptions, although White will take some of them. Thoughts on these guys or others I didn't mention? 0.75 ppr, 1 pt/10 yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,468 Posted August 26, 2021 Gesicki Thomas Higbee Firsker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted August 26, 2021 You are on the right track Smith/Gesicke are the two I always target late. If they get snagged earlier than anticipated Jared Cook and Engram are usually there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted August 26, 2021 The guy I seem to come away with most often is Higbee. Not sure where he's going in relation to those guys, but I usually get him in the double digit rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,595 Posted August 26, 2021 There is no scoring difference between any of these players. Last year in PPR TE #5 scored 11 points per game and TE #20 scored 9 points per game. If you do not get a stud you can wait and choose who falls while picking up value at other positions or you can just choose a guy that plays for a team you want to watch. There is no positional advantage to be had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted August 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Brutal Brutus said: The guy I seem to come away with most often is Higbee. Not sure where he's going in relation to those guys, but I usually get him in the double digit rounds. Higbee always seems to go earlier in Ppr mocks than the others. I am skeptical of him though. I need to do more research but I recall that TEs didn’t exactly pop when Stafford was the QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 404 Posted August 26, 2021 I would probably not really worry about it and just draft whoever falls. Then just plan to stream TEs, play TD roulette, go with the hot hand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted August 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, jrokh said: Higbee always seems to go earlier in Ppr mocks than the others. I am skeptical of him though. I need to do more research but I recall that TEs didn’t exactly pop when Stafford was the QB. I don't think Stafford specifically targets TE's, but Hockenson put up solid numbers last year. I like that he is the only TE in this offense now, which gives him some upside in later rounds. If Thomas falls, I prefer him, but he seems to go a little earlier than I want to take a TE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,468 Posted August 26, 2021 I think Everett with the Hawks is another double digit pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 26, 2021 Finish this sentence: The top five TEs in PPR points per game in 2020 were Kelce, Waller, Kittle, Andrews, and _______________________. (The correct answer is C.J. Uzomah.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, AxeElf said: Finish this sentence: The top five TEs in PPR points per game in 2020 were Kelce, Waller, Kittle, Andrews, and _______________________. (The correct answer is C.J. Uzomah.) Yes yes we know. Uzomah was a top 5 TE Ppg average in that massive sample size, which is no doubt both statistically significant and highly reliable… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, jrokh said: Yes yes we know. Uzomah was a top 5 TE Ppg average in that massive sample size, which is no doubt both statistically significant and highly reliable… It's more significant in a fantasy sense than a statistical one, but it should be pretty reliable, given that he doesn't have much competition, and you never forget your first NFL TD pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, AxeElf said: It's more significant in a fantasy sense than a statistical one, but it should be pretty reliable, given that he doesn't have much competition, and you never forget your first NFL TD pass. I’m 100% certain that he will not be drafted in my leagues, and his massive 11 fantasy points will make it affordable to get him with faab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, jrokh said: I’m 100% certain that he will not be draft in my leagues, and his massive 11 fantasy points will make it affordable to get him with faab. 11.4 PPR per game in 2020, axually... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,595 Posted August 26, 2021 It looks like his 2020 PPG were caused by an outlier based upon his career stats. He did have a 440 yard season in 2019, which means that it would not be extremely suprising to see him get 600 yards this year. However, I will let someone else take him. My favorite deep TE(14 team 30 roster spot) after everyone else is off the board is Jordan Akins. CJ's career stats: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/U/UzomC.00.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: It looks like his 2020 PPG were caused by an outlier based upon his career stats. And that 2020 outlier was caused by the departure of Tyler Eifert and the ascension of Uzomah to the TE1 position--an unusual condition which has endured for the 2021 season as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 529 Posted August 26, 2021 I don't know about your definition of "late, but these should be had late IMO Graham Shultz Cook I. Smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted August 26, 2021 5 hours ago, weepaws said: I think Everett with the Hawks is another double digit pick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,050 Posted August 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, jrokh said: There's a young guy in Seattle that was tearing up camp named Colby Parkinson that is worth keeping an eye on. He hurt his foot. Seattle didn't really give any details, but they are waiting for the cut down to 53 to put him on IR indicating they would like to involve him this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, jrokh said: Higbee always seems to go earlier in Ppr mocks than the others. I am skeptical of him though. I need to do more research but I recall that TEs didn’t exactly pop when Stafford was the QB. I don't know where people are getting Higbee in the double digit rounds, but I've been targeting him a lot and I have never seen him last until round 10 in a Yahoo best ball draft. Round 8 or 9 maybe, but never double digits. I don't know if people think he'll be running Matthew Stafford's offense or Sean McVay's offense, but in Sean McVay's offense, Higbee and Everett were targeted 122 times last season. Everett is gone now. So I think people are just doing the math. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,468 Posted August 27, 2021 I’ve seen Higbee last into the double digit rounds often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 593 Posted August 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, weepaws said: I’ve seen Higbee last into the double digit rounds often. and Stafford uses his TE's. not to the extent where he would be top 5 but top 10 for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted August 27, 2021 8 hours ago, joneo said: I don't know about your definition of "late, but these should be had late IMO Graham Shultz Cook I. Smith I like Schultz a lot but I think Blake Jarwin is still the guy and he's going relatively late too. I know Jarwin is coming off the ACL tear but it was an early injury so he should be back to full speed and FWIW I think he's the #1 on the depth chart. I LOVE where I've been able to grab him in mocks and best ball drafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 44 Posted August 27, 2021 Trautman may see a fair amount of targets unless.Winston reverts to his old self and throws downfield a lot. One guy.I'm looking hard at is Pittsburgh's Pat Freiermuth. Looked really good last preseason game. I think he ends up.with more tds than Pitts but his yardage totals.may not be that great. Think he ends up taking the TE1 job from Ebron midway through the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 27, 2021 5 hours ago, DocNiner said: Trautman may see a fair amount of targets unless.Winston reverts to his old self and throws downfield a lot. One guy.I'm looking hard at is Pittsburgh's Pat Freiermuth. Looked really good last preseason game. I think he ends up.with more tds than Pitts but his yardage totals.may not be that great. Think he ends up taking the TE1 job from Ebron midway through the season. I think you may have forgotten that Freiermuth is a rookie TE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,468 Posted August 27, 2021 He won’t have more tds then Pitts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted August 27, 2021 Everett will feast in SEA and so will Higbee now that they're on different teams. Those two now being the #1 on their respective teams did all of us a favor. I agree with the other folks who have endorsed those 2. They are great later round targets who could put up top 6-8 TE numbers when it's all said and done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted August 29, 2021 Guess we gotta take Irv Smith Jr off the list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,468 Posted August 29, 2021 Darn it, he was very good double digit target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,050 Posted August 30, 2021 Isn't meniscus 4-6 weeks? That's puts him back by week 3 or so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, nobody said: Isn't meniscus 4-6 weeks? That's puts him back by week 3 or so. He'd be a tough start in September. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted August 30, 2021 Engram hurt his vag... er, um, calf. No word on the severity, but the dude would be an injury risk in a flag football league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffkomlo 19 Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 2:17 PM, AxeElf said: Finish this sentence: The top five TEs in PPR points per game in 2020 were Kelce, Waller, Kittle, Andrews, and _______________________. (The correct answer is C.J. Uzomah.) WOW, CJ only played in 2 games. Great statistic to bring up, great sample size.............. you sir are an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, jeffkomlo said: WOW I know, surprising, right? I think my point has been made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffkomlo 19 Posted August 30, 2021 with that reasoning Marcus Mariota would be the 2nd ranked QB because he averaged 26.84 points last year IN HIS ONLY GAME! no.2 behind Prescott Numbers guy humph...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,468 Posted August 30, 2021 I wouldn’t rank Mariota has the second highest ranked Qb in your draft if I was yous. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 822 Posted August 30, 2021 Rnds 1-3: Kelce, Waller, Kittle Rnds 4-6: Pitts, Andrews, Hockenson, Thomas Way too early for me. I'm busy stacking RB's and WR's. Fant and Goedert ranked next, but both overrated IMO. No thanks. That leaves Tonyan and Higbee. If I can get one in the 9th, I'm in. Otherwise waiting til the 12th or 13th for Jonnu Smith or Gerald Everett and then potentially waiver wire streaming rest of season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted August 30, 2021 He just got hurt in preseason finale with a calf strain but I have a hard time believing how far Evan Engram's stock has fallen. Only 3 TE's had more targets than him last season. One has to think he'll luck into some more red zone targets and in general more TDs than the 1 he scored last season. 109 targets last season and you're getting him for basically free at the end of drafts or as a TE2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites