craftsman 1,045 Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Oddly, they won't be testifying. Perhaps that has something to do with taking an oath prior? Meanwhile, her story has been corroborated by other witnesses within the USSS. Why should anyone "testify" at a fake made for tv "trial"‽ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,466 Posted July 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Fnord said: You might be right. It's an untenable situation for an AG though. Do what's right and indict the SOB, and you have 30 million deluded Trumpites and the right wing media propaganda machine screaming about how the whole thing is political. And of course it's political, just by the nature of those involved. Or you turtle and refuse to indict him because of political cowardice, and the next wannabe strongman authoritarian that gets elected POTUS will be smarter than Trump and be successful where Trump wasn't. And the whole notion of a liberal democracy in the US goes extinct, while those 30 million bask in the liberal tears. Trump needs to be indicted and put on trial. I'm 100% dead right. "The justice department is going to prosecute everyone that is responsible to the fullest extent of the law." Telling nightly news Lester Holt, "it wouldn't matter if it was a former president or current presidential candidate". You're tirade about Trump supporters aside, he's not going to indict Trump. No charges = vindication. THE END Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,466 Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fnord said: Perhaps that has something to do with taking an oath prior? Why do you have to make up stuff for something that's painfully obvious. There is no oath, the Secret Service said they would allow them to testify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354 Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, wiffleball said: that's not actually true. But good luck with that. Ok where is the counter discussion. There isn’t one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Horseman said: What ever happened to the secret service agents willing to testify that could have corroborated Hutchinson's second hand story, because they were actually there? Poof! Uh... https://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-trump-jan-6-095424509.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,466 Posted July 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, wiffleball said: Uh... https://news.yahoo.com/police-officer-trump-jan-6-095424509.html Another second hand account instead of the guys that were actually in the vehicle with Trump WHO ARE WILLING TO TESTIFY. Do you gobble this stuff up and slurp it right down without a chaser or anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Ok where is the counter discussion. There isn’t one Do you not understand how the internet works? It's dudes like you that stick your heads in the sand and then say, see? There's no evidence here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, wiffleball said: Do you not understand how the internet works? It's dudes like you that stick your heads in the sand and then say, see? There's no evidence here! Let's face it. And we all know this to be true. Trump could come out and say see? I did exactly that! And you morons would say, see? That just proves he's a leader! Tell me I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354 Posted July 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, wiffleball said: Do you not understand how the internet works? It's dudes like you that stick your heads in the sand and then say, see? There's no evidence here! I understand when evidence is presented in any case in any court there is two sides. That’s what makes it a sham. It’s a one sided discussion with people who all agree and no I have yet to see any evidence that trump told rioters to go into the capitol 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I understand when evidence is presented in any case in any court there is two sides. That’s what makes it a sham. It’s a one sided discussion with people who all agree and no I have yet to see any evidence that trump told rioters to go into the capitol It’s like they aren’t from this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,280 Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Horseman said: I'm 100% dead right. "The justice department is going to prosecute everyone that is responsible to the fullest extent of the law." Telling nightly news Lester Holt, "it wouldn't matter if it was a former president or current presidential candidate". You're tirade about Trump supporters aside, he's not going to indict Trump. No charges = vindication. THE END Jesus. What's it like to be such a blinded partisan that you're rooting for a guy that could credibly be charged with Seditious Conspiracy to win out and avoid culpability yet again? Are you also an elitist, okay with the fact that money and power should trample justice? That you're behind a wealthy blowhard trying to undermine democracy? You're head would explode if a Democrat did any of this sh1t. Don't try to pretend otherwise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I understand when evidence is presented in any case in any court there is two sides. That’s what makes it a sham. It’s a one sided discussion with people who all agree and no I have yet to see any evidence that trump told rioters to go into the capitol So you think the Kennedy assassination hearings should have had a rigorous defense? The 9/11 attackers should have had Rudy Giuliani defending them for the 9/11 hearings? I'm just curious how you think Congressional hearings work. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 28, 2022 When are there going to be Covid hearings? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,354 Posted July 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, wiffleball said: So you think the Kennedy assassination hearings should have had a rigorous defense? The 9/11 attackers should have had Rudy Giuliani defending them for the 9/11 hearings? I'm just curious how you think Congressional hearings work. Last I checked if people are being charged they have a right to defend themselves also the 9/11 attackers all died but had they not they would have absolutely got a trial still lookin for the crime trump committed. I mean the worst thing I’ve seen is he waited too long to make a speech. But that’s not a crime either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Last I checked if people are being charged they have a right to defend themselves also the 9/11 attackers all died but had they not they would have absolutely got a trial still lookin for the crime trump committed. I mean the worst thing I’ve seen is he waited too long to make a speech. But that’s not a crime either Again, you apparently don't understand or don't want to understand the difference between the Congressional hearing and criminal trials. I'm not sure how I help you with that. If you're really that dim-witted. For example, do you understand that Roger Clemens didn't actually go to prison even though he was the subject of a congressional hearing? Hey, guess who else testified in a congressional hearing? Fred Rogers. Won't you be his neighbor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 28, 2022 I get why the democrats have to take this so far. When it’s all said and done Trump had a very successful term as president. There is no getting around it. Compared to what we have now the democrats have to dirty it up. The contrast is just too stark. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,466 Posted July 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Fnord said: Jesus. What's it like to be such a blinded partisan that you're rooting for a guy that could credibly be charged with Seditious Conspiracy to win out and avoid culpability yet again? Are you also an elitist, okay with the fact that money and power should trample justice? That you're behind a wealthy blowhard trying to undermine democracy? You're head would explode if a Democrat did any of this sh1t. Don't try to pretend otherwise. Who's rooting? That's fact and what is going to happen. Sorry you dont like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,466 Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, wiffleball said: Again, you apparently don't understand or don't want to understand the difference between the Congressional hearing and criminal trials. One is real with real consequences. The other is makebelieve, even has Mr. Roger's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Jesus. What's it like to be such a blinded partisan Look in the mirror. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, wiffleball said: Again, you apparently don't understand or don't want to understand the difference between the Congressional hearing and criminal trials. I'm not sure how I help you with that. If you're really that dim-witted. For example, do you understand that Roger Clemens didn't actually go to prison even though he was the subject of a congressional hearing? Hey, guess who else testified in a congressional hearing? Fred Rogers. Won't you be his neighbor? Are congressional hearings always a one sided event, edited, directed, and produced by liberal stooges? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,280 Posted July 28, 2022 14 hours ago, shorepatrol said: Look in the mirror. Bullsh1t. Yes, I'm partisan in that I'm anti-GOP right now. But if I had voted for a POTUS that did what Trump has, I'd hang my head in shame and not want to talk about it ever again. What I wouldn't do is defend the POS at all costs while also ignoring mountains of evidence against him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,280 Posted July 28, 2022 9 hours ago, craftsman said: Are congressional hearings always a one sided event, edited, directed, and produced by liberal stooges? How do you know the political affiliations of the producer, director and editors? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted July 28, 2022 15 hours ago, Fnord said: Jesus. What's it like to be such a blinded partisan that you're rooting for a guy that could credibly be charged with Seditious Conspiracy to win out and avoid culpability yet again? Are you also an elitist, okay with the fact that money and power should trample justice? That you're behind a wealthy blowhard trying to undermine democracy? You're head would explode if a Democrat did any of this sh1t. Don't try to pretend otherwise. Who's pretending? I'm still pissed off about the Steele Dossier and the Russian collusion sh!t. My head is close to exploding because the chair of the Jan 6th committee, Benny Thompson, voted in 2004 to not certify Ohio's electoral votes over waaaaaay more dubious claims than anything Trump said in 2020 but that's not stopping him from being the chair of this sh!tshow??? I still bristle whenever Stacy Abrams claims that she won the GA governor's race. You want me to keep going? And your "credibly charged with sedetious conspiracy" claim is sh!t. In order for that to be "credible" you'd have to be able to show that Trump knew he lost the election and decided to try to overturn it anyway. That's called "intent" and you're never going to "charge" anyone without it. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,613 Posted July 28, 2022 14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I get why the democrats have to take this so far. When it’s all said and done Trump had a very successful term as president. There is no getting around it. Compared to what we have now the democrats have to dirty it up. The contrast is just too stark. And he forever changed our political landscape by pushing in three new Supreme Court justices. All their unconstitutional bullsh!t will get shot down for years to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,613 Posted July 28, 2022 15 hours ago, Fnord said: Jesus. What's it like to be such a blinded partisan that you're rooting for a guy that could credibly be charged with Seditious Conspiracy to win out and avoid culpability yet again? Are you also an elitist, okay with the fact that money and power should trample justice? That you're behind a wealthy blowhard trying to undermine democracy? You're head would explode if a Democrat did any of this sh1t. Don't try to pretend otherwise. You should buy some of those extra absorbent tampons instead of the regular ones, you're bleeding through 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,280 Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Masshole said: Who's pretending? I'm still pissed off about the Steele Dossier and the Russian collusion sh!t. My head is close to exploding because the chair of the Jan 6th committee, Benny Thompson, voted in 2004 to not certify Ohio's electoral votes over waaaaaay more dubious claims than anything Trump said in 2020 but that's not stopping him from being the chair of this sh!tshow??? I still bristle whenever Stacy Abrams claims that she won the GA governor's race. You want me to keep going? And your "credibly charged with sedetious conspiracy" claim is sh!t. In order for that to be "credible" you'd have to be able to show that Trump knew he lost the election and decided to try to overturn it anyway. That's called "intent" and you're never going to "charge" anyone without it. Cool. The things you mentioned that Democrats did that pissed you off are valid. But how many of the things you note resulted in a violent, armed crowd overruning the Capitol building and unlawfully delaying a federal proceeding? How many of them ruined our perfect record regarding peaceful transfer of power? Also, the committee has shown large amounts of evidence that Trump did know he lost the election, and did try to overturn it despite that knowledge. Also lots of evidence that he was involved in planning exactly what happened in the hopes it would delay the certification long enough to whisk Pence away so he couldn't certify, which is constitutional duty. There was intent pouring out of the administration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,280 Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: You should buy some of those extra absorbent tampons instead of the regular ones, you're bleeding through Jesus, how the fukk did I not have you on ignore? Time to fix that oversight, you useless pile of steaming rodent dung. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,613 Posted July 28, 2022 Just now, Fnord said: Jesus, how the fukk did I not have you on ignore? Time to fix that oversight, you useless pile of steaming rodent dung. kys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Fnord said: How do you know the political affiliations of the producer, director and editors? Liberals in congress hired them. Plus, no conservative with any self esteem would agree to be part of that farcical sitcom lie of a tv show they are putting on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 28, 2022 If Trump planned and implemented an insurrection, how come there wasn’t one? Who stopped it? How? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If Trump planned and implemented an insurrection, how come there wasn’t one? Who stopped it? How? They asked them to leave the capital. And they did. Some insurrection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, craftsman said: They asked them to leave the capital. And they did. Some insurrection. After they let them in. Was that part of the plan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted July 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, Fnord said: Cool. The things you mentioned that Democrats did that pissed you off are valid. But how many of the things you note resulted in a violent, armed crowd overruning the Capitol building and unlawfully delaying a federal proceeding? How many of them ruined our perfect record regarding peaceful transfer of power? Also, the committee has shown large amounts of evidence that Trump did know he lost the election, and did try to overturn it despite that knowledge. Also lots of evidence that he was involved in planning exactly what happened in the hopes it would delay the certification long enough to whisk Pence away so he couldn't certify, which is constitutional duty. There was intent pouring out of the administration. Well, I didn't want to bring up the 2020 summer of riots but you seem to really want to. . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Masshole said: Well, I didn't want to bring up the 2020 summer of riots but you seem to really want to. . . A Federal courthouse not in DC doesn’t count for some reason. Plus it was at night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Masshole said: Well, I didn't want to bring up the 2020 summer of riots but you seem to really want to. . . In 2020 they had cans of frozen liquid, molotov cocktails, rocks, guns, fireworks, blunt objects, started fires and they used them to destroy federal buildings, federal landmarks, people's businesses, other humans including police officers and all the liberal "leaders" told the police to stand down and allow the destruction to continue on. If anyone got arrested, Kamala and other liberal leaders bailed the criminals out of prison so they could go back to committing arson, looting, and assaulting and killing people. At the capital in 2021, a group of people, including a 79 year old cancer victim wandered around the capital with no weapons, and they all took pictures after they were let in through the front doors. And they left when they were told to leave and later were thrown in solitary confinement for an "insurrection" while all the 2020 insurrectionists are sitting around comfortably in their homes with a bunch of free stuff they looted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,457 Posted July 28, 2022 I remember the cops in Chicago in 2020 getting bricks hurled at them at I think the Columbus statue. Bricks. A lot of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,466 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Cool. The things you mentioned that Democrats did that pissed you off are valid. But how many of the things you note resulted in a violent, armed crowd overruning the Capitol building and unlawfully delaying a federal proceeding? How many of them ruined our perfect record regarding peaceful transfer of power? Also, the committee has shown large amounts of evidence that Trump did know he lost the election, and did try to overturn it despite that knowledge. Also lots of evidence that he was involved in planning exactly what happened in the hopes it would delay the certification long enough to whisk Pence away so he couldn't certify, which is constitutional duty. There was intent pouring out of the administration. Sooooo much evidence that charges are never going to be brought and Trump is vindicated. THE END. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted July 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Horseman said: Sooooo much evidence that charges are never going to be brought and Trump is vindicated. THE END. #honcho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted July 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Horseman said: Sooooo much evidence that charges are never going to be brought and Trump is vindicated. THE END. Liberal democrats got nothing in life to hang on to other than their skills in cheating on elections. It sucks they have that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted August 1, 2022 Quote Jan 6. rioter who carried gun to US Capitol and threatened Nancy Pelosi gets more than 7 years in prison A federal judge on Monday sentenced Guy Reffitt, who brought a gun to the US Capitol during the January 6, 2021, riot and threatened House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, to more than seven years in prison, the longest insurrection-related sentence to date. Reffitt, a recruiter for a right-wing militia known as the Three Percenters, was the first Capitol rioter to go to trial rather than take a plea agreement. "I just want to see Pelosi's head hit every f**king stair on the way out. ... And (Republican leader) Mitch McConnell too," Reffitt said, according to a video recording he made of himself on January 6. I'm thinking that his 'selfie' video didn't help him during sentencing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites