Media Event!! Jan 6th Propaganda!! Tonight!! Official Thread!!

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11 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Thanks, I tried to be honest with you.

A big reason that I have a soft spot for the protestors is because I agree with them completely.  Further, had my ass been in the US at the time there's a good chance that I might have been at that protest and who knows... I wouldn't have broken in. But if the doors were open, my dumb ass might have thought walking into the building and continuing to protest inside might have been a fun thing to do. I sure thought that sitting behind my computer.

So I know what many of them were thinking and it was not an insurrection.  Ican't speak for the QAnon crowd, for me it was a Fock You at Congress and the dubious election. 

But I thought when the courts decided against Al Gore in Florida, that was the right and classy thing for him to do was step aside. I say that as a Gore voter who was upset at how that election was resolved as well. That was the precedent and Trump should have followed it and didn't. Fortunately Pence did. You have no grounds to trigger a Constitutional crisis when the courts decide against you. You have to respect the process.

But yeah, the election was very dubiously conducted and Trump supporters had every right to be pissed.

I have nothing but respect for those that attended the rally to peacefully protest what they thought was wrong.

The rank and file attendees that made their way in through an open door and looked around and left are idiots, but whatever. 

Those that broke in forcefully and engaged in hand to hand combat with the cops can fuk right off and I hope they figure out their miserable lives while they sit in jail.

Trump, Giuliani, Eastman, Lin Wood, Sydney Powell, Mike Lindell, Ali Alexander, Roger Stone, Alex Jones, Mark Meadows, et al should be indicted for Seditious Conspiracy and Conspiracy to Defraud the United States at a bare minimum. 

Our opinions on crowd size and intent mean nothing though. The fact is, the POTUS knew an armed mob forced their way into the Capitol and did nothing. Dereliction of Duty is the kindest way to put it.

Fuker committed treason is how I'd put it.

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Anyone have some thoughts on why a POTUS would ever see a mob attacking the US Capitol and DO NOTHING?

The election was won by cheating.

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3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

The election was won by cheating.

I'd love to see the evidence that supports this, as the courts all decided that it was nonexistent. 

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Just now, Fnord said:

I'd love to see the evidence that supports this, as the courts all decided that it was nonexistent. 

I answered your question which was about why POTUS would do what he did.

[Voltaire 5,317]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Trump, Giuliani, Eastman, Lin Wood, Sydney Powell, Mike Lindell, Ali Alexander, Roger Stone, Alex Jones, Mark Meadows, et al should be indicted for Seditious Conspiracy and Conspiracy to Defraud the United States at a bare minimum. 

 

I don't rightly know that anybody you listed did anything wrong. Pointing out the election was rigged is not a crime. Neither is calling to peacefully protest. Whatever else they did, maybe, but seeing how the accusers are the same ones what fabricated bogus impeachment charges, I suspect it's probably more nothing with an extra helping of nothing. I could be wrong on that since I have not the slightest interested enough to pay attention. After the same people crying wolf for five years, I gave up for years six and seven.

The people who fought with police should get charged for that as well as those that broke windows and doors who should get charged. The punishments should be consistent with whatever BLM rioters got for doing he same thing, which seems to me, was a slap on the wrist. But that's obviously not the case. The hypocrites have double standards for protestors they agree and disagree with.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'd love to see the evidence that supports this, as the courts all decided that it was nonexistent. 

You've being deliberately misinfotmed as to the reasoning of those court decisions. The courts have decided that the evidence isn't admissible, it's different than it not existing which is why the issue remains unsettled despite media and big tech's efforts as such. But even if they did, the people that they would reach to dismiss them don't trust them anyway.

For example, the courts will find election fraud when you can prove this address is invalid or this person voted twice. And they'll charge that person. Even then they won't pull their fraudulent ballot out because it's unmarked and mixed in with the good ones. Anyway, they're god at that. This the standard the courts work well with hard evidence.

When the accusations are based on statistical anomalies or near impossibilities, anecdotal evidence of fraud, bullied election observers prevented from observing, or ballots cast without election observers present, they are hamstrung. The fraud has to be caught either before or as it happens. Ballots are and need to be cast secretly. But once the bad ballots are mixed in with the good, assuming that happened, the courts nor anyone else can tell the difference to sort them out.

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9 hours ago, Voltaire said:

You've being deliberately misinfotmed as to the reasoning of those court decisions. The courts have decided that the evidence isn't admissible, it's different than it not existing which is why the issue remains unsettled despite media and big tech's efforts as such.

No. Let's put aside the debunked narrative that Trump lost those court cases because of "inadmissible evidence." Can you give me a single example of why, after dozens of court cases are lost, a sitting President, who has sworn an oath to uphold the laws of the US, would choose to allow hundreds (if not thousands) of people to violently attack the Capitol? That's not upholding the law. You lost in court, suck it up and take the L. 

Treason.

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Noticing that there's not much action in this thread from the Trumpers rushing to their guy's defense. What's up with that? Ready to admit the guy's a POS? It's ok if you don't want to do it publicly and take the heat for it. At least do the right thing and admit it to yourself.

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The Trump lawsuits were thrown out due to lack of  standing, not lack of evidence.  HTH. 

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Just now, Fnord said:

Noticing that there's not much action in this thread from the Trumpers rushing to their guy's defense. What's up with that? Ready to admit the guy's a POS? It's ok if you don't want to do it publicly and take the heat for it. At least do the right thing and admit it to yourself.

I just want to win. He’s not necessary anymore for that. You people have focked up on such a grand scale it’s an easy win for any other R. 

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Noticing that there's not much action in this thread from the Trumpers rushing to their guy's defense. What's up with that? Ready to admit the guy's a POS? It's ok if you don't want to do it publicly and take the heat for it. At least do the right thing and admit it to yourself.

Literally every person who voted for Trump has been saying that since 2015... your head is just too far up the liberal azz to see that.  People like Trump's policies, not his personality.  The difference between men and b!tches is that we can set aside the fact that we don't like a person but can agree with him while wimps like you want someone you like, even though their policies have negative impacts on society.  Also, people like you seem to pretend a lot that your elected officials are POS's too.  This is all a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Literally every person who voted for Trump has been saying that since 2015... your head is just too far up the liberal azz to see that.  People like Trump's policies, not his personality.  The difference between men and b!tches is that we can set aside the fact that we don't like a person but can agree with him while wimps like you want someone you like, even though their policies have negative impacts on society.  Also, people like you seem to pretend a lot that your elected officials are POS's too.  This is all a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

This seems to be a very difficult thing for liberals to understand.

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19 minutes ago, Fnord said:

No. Let's put aside the debunked narrative that Trump lost those court cases because of "inadmissible evidence." Can you give me a single example of why, after dozens of court cases are lost, a sitting President, who has sworn an oath to uphold the laws of the US, would choose to allow hundreds (if not thousands) of people to violently attack the Capitol? That's not upholding the law. You lost in court, suck it up and take the L. 

Treason.

I agree that once the court cases settled, that was that. The president never encouraged and violence as you claim though. He just wanted people to go protest at the capital peacefully.

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14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Literally every person who voted for Trump has been saying that since 2015... your head is just too far up the liberal azz to see that.  People like Trump's policies, not his personality.  The difference between men and b!tches is that we can set aside the fact that we don't like a person but can agree with him while wimps like you want someone you like, even though their policies have negative impacts on society.  Also, people like you seem to pretend a lot that your elected officials are POS's too.  This is all a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

This. 

I voted for Trump twice. 

Did he say he grabs women by the puzzy and is he just a POS in general? FOCK YES. He's a terrible human being. BUT...some of the things he's said (or maybe did) isn't any worse than some of shiiite that I've read and seen posted on this board in the last 20 years by regular Joe's out there. 

That said, things were better when he was in office. That's just a fact. I voted for his policies, ones that he ACTUALLY signed and did. Biden is a wimp. Biden gets into office and immediately gets rid of those policies that were working. Energy independence? Meh. All because libs hated Trump; they didn't care if they were doing better - they hate him and that's all that matters. 

I think it's more difficult for a lib to admit that Trump actually did GOOD things for us, versus a Trump voter admitting he's a POS. I'll happily admit that he's a p POS and then vote for him again. 

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5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Did he say he grabs women by the puzzy

No, what he said was, "they let you grab them by the puzzy".  He never said that he actually did it.  I've said the same thing he has many times in my life.  I've seen people let people do things to them... because it was an observation, not because I did it.  Just clarifying that.

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27 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Literally every person who voted for Trump has been saying that since 2015... your head is just too far up the liberal azz to see that.  People like Trump's policies, not his personality.  The difference between men and b!tches is that we can set aside the fact that we don't like a person but can agree with him while wimps like you want someone you like, even though their policies have negative impacts on society.  Also, people like you seem to pretend a lot that your elected officials are POS's too.  This is all a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

nailed it

 

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37 minutes ago, Fnord said:

No. Let's put aside the debunked narrative that Trump lost those court cases because of "inadmissible evidence." Can you give me a single example of why, after dozens of court cases are lost, a sitting President, who has sworn an oath to uphold the laws of the US, would choose to allow hundreds (if not thousands) of people to violently attack the Capitol? That's not upholding the law. You lost in court, suck it up and take the L. 

Treason.

wait so all it takes is the president to say something and people wont break the law?

why hasn't Biden cleaned up (insert every liberal sh1thole) city

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28 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Literally every person who voted for Trump has been saying that since 2015... your head is just too far up the liberal azz to see that.  People like Trump's policies, not his personality.  The difference between men and b!tches is that we can set aside the fact that we don't like a person but can agree with him while wimps like you want someone you like, even though their policies have negative impacts on society.  Also, people like you seem to pretend a lot that your elected officials are POS's too.  This is all a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

This.

It's what I have been saying all along.  I do not have to like the guy if he is doing a good job, and despite him being a dooshbag human, Trump improved everything. I am pretty sure I would never like him as a person, and I DO NOT NEED TO.  What I need are results. 

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treason

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1 minute ago, taco breath said:

treason

and yet... https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3570461-trump-leads-biden-sanders-in-hypothetical-2024-matchups-poll/

LOL

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40 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Noticing that there's not much action in this thread from the Trumpers rushing to their guy's defense. What's up with that? Ready to admit the guy's a POS? It's ok if you don't want to do it publicly and take the heat for it. At least do the right thing and admit it to yourself.

Normal people have no idea that this hearing stuff is still happening. It's not going to save your side in November.

HTH

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This.

It's what I have been saying all along.  I do not have to like the guy if he is doing a good job, and despite him being a dooshbag human, Trump improved everything. I am pretty sure I would never like him as a person, and I DO NOT NEED TO.  What I need are results. 

I actually think in reality, he would be cool at a bar

hes like the dude nobody likes, but hes funny, making jokes and picking up the tab for everything cause he just wants you to like him

probably get us a few Miss USA chicks to join at the hotel

 

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44 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Literally every person who voted for Trump has been saying that since 2015... your head is just too far up the liberal azz to see that.  People like Trump's policies, not his personality.  The difference between men and b!tches is that we can set aside the fact that we don't like a person but can agree with him while wimps like you want someone you like, even though their policies have negative impacts on society.  Also, people like you seem to pretend a lot that your elected officials are POS's too.  This is all a "you" problem, not an "us" problem.

Cool. So totally fine to back a guy you know is a POS because lib tears. Then cool to whitewash the most egregious attack on the seat of US power ever cuz liberal tears. Then cool to keep voting for all the other P'sOS that covered for the first POS cuz... wait for it... lib tears. 

Newsflash: if the nation collapses because you were ok voting for a POS, policy positions don't mean sh!t. You voted for a traitor. Congrats.

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Just now, Fnord said:

Cool. So totally fine to back a guy you know is a POS because lib tears. Then cool to whitewash the most egregious attack on the seat of US power ever cuz liberal tears. Then cool to keep voting for all the other P'sOS that covered for the first POS cuz... wait for it... lib tears. 

Newsflash: if the nation collapses because you were ok voting for a POS, policy positions don't mean sh!t. You voted for a traitor. Congrats.

I literally lol'ed, get some fresh air, you've been had.

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20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This.

It's what I have been saying all along.  I do not have to like the guy if he is doing a good job, and despite him being a dooshbag human, Trump improved everything. I am pretty sure I would never like him as a person, and I DO NOT NEED TO.  What I need are results. 

You got results. Gross dereliction of duty and an attempted coup. Well done, results guy!

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1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Cool. So totally fine to back a guy you know is a POS because lib tears. Then cool to whitewash the most egregious attack on the seat of US power ever cuz liberal tears. Then cool to keep voting for all the other P'sOS that covered for the first POS cuz... wait for it... lib tears. 

Newsflash: if the nation collapses because you were ok voting for a POS, policy positions don't mean sh!t. You voted for a traitor. Congrats.

No, but the tears make it more fun.  As I said, I back the guy whose policies I agree with.  He is a piece of crap, but so is everyone on both sides... you're just either too blind or too ignorant to see that it's happening on your side too.

The people I vote for aren't the ones who let the nation collapse, that's your people.  But of course, you're either too blind or ignorant to see that.

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1 minute ago, Reality said:

I literally lol'ed, get some fresh air, you've been had.

So you're totally cool with everythingthat went down?

And I'm the one who's been had?

What's it like to hate liberals so much that you'd sacrifice your country to piss them off?

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1 minute ago, Fnord said:

So you're totally cool with everythingthat went down?

And I'm the one who's been had?

What's it like to hate liberals so much that you'd sacrifice your country to piss them off?

Yep.

[Reality 3,121]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So you're totally cool with everythingthat went down?

And I'm the one who's been had?

What's it like to hate liberals so much that you'd sacrifice your country to piss them off?

Sure bud.

[Mike Honcho 5,284]

On 7/7/2022 at 1:58 PM, vomit said:

 

It's funny though, that nobody is acknowledging that Trump wasn't in the third row and there was no partition.  Weird.  

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3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No, but the tears make it more fun.  As I said, I back the guy whose policies I agree with.  He is a piece of crap, but so is everyone on both sides... you're just either too blind or too ignorant to see that it's happening on your side too.

The people I vote for aren't the ones who let the nation collapse, that's your people.  But of course, you're either too blind or ignorant to see that.

Well, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, and he attempted to overthrow the government. None of those I voted for did. I'm feeling pretty good about my choices. Sorry you can't separate favored policy and lib tears from treason.

[RLLD 4,237]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You got results. Gross dereliction of duty and an attempted coup. Well done, results guy!

Incorrect.   We got a stronger country, high employment and massive improvements for those historically disenfranchised.  

[Mike Honcho 5,284]

12 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

If you say it more than 10 times its reality.  Dem's da rules!@#!

Like "They stole the election", "The votes were fraudulent".  Yeah, we know who that works on...

[Mike Honcho 5,284]

12 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Once Texas lost their court case, that should have been the end. President Trump shouldn't have asked Mike Pence to not sit those electors. Presumably there was some legal rationale for doing so but it didn't sit right with me, nor did it for Mike Pence. Had Vice President Pence made a different decision and pursued Trump's request, it would have triggered a Constitutional crisis, but Pence did the right thing. So no "blatant violation of US Federal Law" took place. 

As for the events of Jan 6th, that was little more than a protest that got out of control. This "attack on the capital" is no more than verbal hyperbole embraced by his political opponents to pretend it was more significant than any other protest. I mean yes, it was more than a regular protest, other protests never got into the building and interrupted Congress for a few hours. But the situation was resolved soon enough. 

Eastman, Trump's own lawyer who was pushing the theory to not count certain electors admitted that if it went to SCOTUS they would lose 9-0.  It was an attempt at defrauding the US Govt & Obstruction of Congress.  

[Reality 3,121]

It's a nice distraction from the disastrous 18 months we're in the midst of. 

Hopefully the harvesting of votes is under control now and we don't have to put up with this moving forward.

[Mike Honcho 5,284]

11 hours ago, Fnord said:

I have nothing but respect for those that attended the rally to peacefully protest what they thought was wrong.

 

Not me. They attended that rally thinking that the election was stolen, massive ballot fraud and so on, despite there being not one scintilla of evidence. I have the same amount of respect for people who believe in the Loch Ness Monster.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,458]

19 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You got results. Gross dereliction of duty and an attempted coup. Well done, results guy!

Yeah, That’s the moment you and the rest of the sky screamers got hysterical about Trump. You were all very even handed and rational prior to the treason! 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,458]

2 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Not me. They attended that rally thinking that the election was stolen, massive ballot fraud and so on, despite there being not one scintilla of evidence. I have the same amount of respect for people who believe in the Loch Ness Monster.

No evidence? Affidavits signed under the threat of perjury aren’t evidence anymore? Since when? 

[Mike Honcho 5,284]

11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I don't rightly know that anybody you listed did anything wrong. Pointing out the election was rigged is not a crime. Neither is calling to peacefully protest. Whatever else they did, maybe, but seeing how the accusers are the same ones what fabricated bogus impeachment charges, I suspect it's probably more nothing with an extra helping of nothing. I could be wrong on that since I have not the slightest interested enough to pay attention. After the same people crying wolf for five years, I gave up for years six and seven.

The people who fought with police should get charged for that as well as those that broke windows and doors who should get charged. The punishments should be consistent with whatever BLM rioters got for doing he same thing, which seems to me, was a slap on the wrist. But that's obviously not the case. The hypocrites have double standards for protestors they agree and disagree with.

Many of those people are under criminal investigation or facing charges for FALSELY sayin the election was rigged...cause that actually is a crime.

In fact, if you had been listening to the hearings, you would have a much greater understanding of who really was trying to steal the election and or rig it.

[Mike Honcho 5,284]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No evidence? Affidavits signed under the threat of perjury aren’t evidence anymore? Since when? 

An affidavit that says I saw a suspicious truck a block away from where the votes were counted and the like aren't evidence.