5-Points 3,526 Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, BuckSwope said: So by that last statement, are you one who believes the election was stolen and Trump won? I believe that if the Dems, FBI and MSM hadn't conspired against him for his entire term and, instead, the msm reported fairly and accurately, Trump would've won in a landslide and any election fraud that took place wouldn't have made a difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 11, 2022 But but but....we are heading directly into a recession (reeee) Student loan forgiveness (reeeeee) Soy lattes (reeeeeee) More dumb talking points (reeeeeeeee!!!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Sean Mooney said: But but but....we are heading directly into a recession (reeee) Student loan forgiveness (reeeeee) Soy lattes (reeeeeee) More dumb talking points (reeeeeeeee!!!) Enjoying your day off? You’re welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, dogcows said: I will preface this by saying I don’t agree Biden’s policies are what's hurting the economy. However, inflation and the economy are a big concern, so it should have had a much more negative effect on Dems this cycle. Imagine if, instead of “CRT is the devil! Abortion is murder! MUH FRAUD! MOAR GUNZ!” ... We had all the GOP candidates talking about plans to fix the economy. You might have seen a different outcome. When the GOP is ready to dump all that stupid , they might turn things around. But I don’t see it happening quite yet. In DeSantis’ most recent speech, he said the word “Woke” about 10 times in less than a minute. I’m sure that gets all the far-right types' nipples hard, but it’s a turnoff to independents and Dems, and doesn’t say anything about how he’d help the economy. I made this point the other day in asking about what the Republican's plan was to fix all this inflation and stuff and no one had an answer. Look- if a Republican came out with a solid financial plan and outlined how we get past inflation, drive down prices, win trade wars.....awesome- sign me up. Where do I vote? But like you said- it's all "CRT" "Elections are rigged" and we've got the old guy ready to come back and play the "I'm the greatest, lot of people are saying" songs again..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: If you have even 1/10th of the financial savvy you claim This should be good, what in God's name are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,269 Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: I made this point the other day in asking about what the Republican's plan was to fix all this inflation and stuff and no one had an answer. Look- if a Republican came out with a solid financial plan and outlined how we get past inflation, drive down prices, win trade wars.....awesome- sign me up. Where do I vote? But like you said- it's all "CRT" "Elections are rigged" and we've got the old guy ready to come back and play the "I'm the greatest, lot of people are saying" songs again..... I just want to know why Biden hates the world so much he created global inflation! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Reality said: This should be good, what in God's name are you talking about? Thought you were some kind of finance guy? Maybe I’m getting my butthurt right wing dooshbags mixed up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 Leftists- we want to fundamentally change the country. Conservatives- no, we don’t want that. Leftists- stop with the culture wars!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Thought you were some kind of finance guy? Maybe I’m getting my butthurt right wing dooshbags mixed up About what I figured, talking out of your a$$. You're such a whiney little bltch. Do yourself a favor and fock all the way off. Nobody is surprised why your family took off. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I just want to know why Biden hates the world so much he created global inflation! Exactly....it's as if people are so focused on "America first" they don't understand the world has the same issues going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Reality said: About what I figured, talking out of your a$$. You're such a whiney little bltch. Do yourself a favor and fock all the way off. Nobody is surprised why your family took off. Haha, angry doosh bag just like I said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted November 11, 2022 Another liberal troll... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, nobody said: Biden spends us into exacerbated inflation. That has a triple whammy. First, it takes more money to retire. Second it tanks stocks. Third, it requires us to raise rates which in turn is going to hurt housing and as a result drag on stocks even more. Please, for love of abortion, please please please don't say we needed hindsight to know this was going to happen. This is very, very basic. But I suspect many centrists would be happy to work an extra 5 years because insurance will pay for a chick to travel a state over to get an abortion. This is the retarded ass hole that doesn't understand everything that happened with the economy in the 20 years before Biden stepped into the oval office. Dumbass probably thinks everything gets magically fixed in 2024 if Trump wins too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: This is the retarded ass hole that doesn't understand everything that happened with the economy in the 20 years before Biden stepped into the oval office. Dumbass probably thinks everything gets magically fixed in 2024 if Trump wins too. We all know why you like pedo pete so much. Sniff sniff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,866 Posted November 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I made this point the other day in asking about what the Republican's plan was to fix all this inflation and stuff and no one had an answer. Look- if a Republican came out with a solid financial plan and outlined how we get past inflation, drive down prices, win trade wars.....awesome- sign me up. Where do I vote? But like you said- it's all "CRT" "Elections are rigged" and we've got the old guy ready to come back and play the "I'm the greatest, lot of people are saying" songs again..... I didn’t pay too much attention to the ads, but I thought the answer was usually something to the effect of “don’t give out more money and drill our own oil”…which is probably the correct answer. Biden certainly didn’t cause global inflation, and didn’t even cause US inflation, but he did make US inflation worse than it would have been otherwise. On the 401(k) conversation, I would agree that you shouldn’t really worry about it unless you’re somewhat close to retirement, but I think someone that is 48 is close enough to worry about it. But keep in mind the original quote was talking about “money situation” and not 401(k)s specifically. I would think your money situation, including potential job losses etc. would absolutely factor into your vote. That was a weird comment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,580 Posted November 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: When you open a 401K one of the very first things they (if you go through a brokership) do is look at how far away you are from retiring because: a.) it affects what they invest in for you and b.) they remind you not to worry about the small fluctuations in a year and look more at the long game. It's not like the thing drops and it is gone forever. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you… Warren Buffett 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: Technically, you are right, but “Republicans” missed big here. There should have been the red wave that was predicted. This has shown me how bad and out of touch the Republican leadership is. The opportunity was there, and the messaging was completely botched. How do you lock down the country, destroy the economy, set record breaking inflation, get involved in a worthless war and let crime soar out of control and have little repercussions? We now have two men who can’t form a coherent thought that have won elections and are shaping this country. Because half the country are brain-dead leftists who are scared of the right-wing anti-democracy boogeyman, who think the government needs to lock the people down, and who have no issues with labeling 5-year old boys as girls and changing their names and pronouns. If you were following the 538 projections, they were pretty close with the most likely outcome to be about 225 seats the house and 51 seats in the Senate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: This is the retarded ass hole that doesn't understand everything that happened with the economy in the 20 years before Biden stepped into the oval office. Dumbass probably thinks everything gets magically fixed in 2024 if Trump wins too. I understand there's a build up, but Biden is stepping on the gas for no reason with plenty of people saying it's not a good idea. That's fine that you guys don't believe it. Just don't pull this "well in hindsight, I guess that was a mistake. No way we could've known though." like your centrist brethren are doing with the covid response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, BuckSwope said: I think there are levels of "things going wrong". 1. 0 mistakes or cheating 2. Some of the above, but not enough to move the needle on election results. 3. Some of the above, but enough to tip the scales in the election. 4. Flat out fraud and collusion to have Biden president. I think we are firmly in #2 territory and probably always have been. Yes, it's rational to reevaluate, test, and try to make the elections as secure and quick as possible. But we are never going to have #1, it's not reality. We are probably in #2; you are welcome to your "firmly" opinion of course. Note that it is human nature, especially if you want to believe #2, to mistakenly think about the difference in popular vote as the gauge. It's not of course; a few precision efforts in key battleground states could do the trick. Or not. Again, we'll never know. That being said, while maybe not meeting a strict definition of cheating, one thing we firmly know is that the MSM and social media behaved as PR extensions of the Democratic party and Biden in particular, against Trump in particular. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, nobody said: I understand there's a build up, but Biden is stepping on the gas for no reason with plenty of people saying it's not a good idea. That's fine that you guys don't believe it. Just don't pull this "well in hindsight, I guess that was a mistake. No way we could've known though." like your centrist brethren are doing with the covid response. Oh I believe it, and I don't like it. I'm just smart enough to know that this has been coming for years, and the $3T that Trump spent were the catalyst, and it would have been bad whether or not Biden spent another $2T, not as bad, but still bad, and I blame them both, along with Obama, and even W before that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Oh I believe it, and I don't like it. I'm just smart enough to know that this has been coming for years, and the $3T that Trump spent were the catalyst, and it would have been bad whether or not Biden spent another $2T, not as bad, but still bad, and I blame them both, along with Obama, and even W before that. OK, so you want to make a blame pie. I just want us to vote in a way going forward that isn't going to throw gas on the fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 Wait, Biden didn’t have anything to do with oil and gas prices climbing big time? We going with that now? Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Wait, Biden didn’t have anything to do with oil and gas prices climbing big time? We going with that now? Lol. Once he's out of office, they'll claim hindsight is 20/20. How could we possibly know that impeding domestic oil production would cause gas prices to go up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, nobody said: Once he's out of office, they'll claim hindsight is 20/20. How could we possibly know that impeding domestic oil production would cause gas prices to go up? Yup, then rewrite history to cover it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted November 11, 2022 this election is going to go on forever, isnt it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, nobody said: Once he's out of office, they'll claim hindsight is 20/20. How could we possibly know that impeding domestic oil production would cause gas prices to go up? Putin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, nobody said: Once he's out of office, they'll claim hindsight is 20/20. How could we possibly know that impeding domestic oil production would cause gas prices to go up? US oil production is up since Biden took office, dummy. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m And let's not forget that oil was actually trading the negatives during covid. But yeah, it's all Biden's fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, nobody said: Biden spends us into exacerbated inflation. That has a triple whammy. First, it takes more money to retire. Second it tanks stocks. Third, it requires us to raise rates which in turn is going to hurt housing and as a result drag on stocks even more. Please, for love of abortion, please please please don't say we needed hindsight to know this was going to happen. This is very, very basic. But I suspect many centrists would be happy to work an extra 5 years because insurance will pay for a chick to travel a state over to get an abortion. The inflation stuff is real. The rest of that is some weird hyperventilating bullsh1t that tells me you need to turn off Fox News, etc., but the inflation stuff is real. Okay. It’s happening the whole world over, and many places worse than here. How in the hell is that Biden’s fault, specifically? If everyone else in the world is having the same problem, isn’t it reasonable to conclude that Biden has little, if anything, to do with it? And conversely, isn’t it irrational to lay it all at his feet when probably the best anyone else could’ve possibly done is only slightly less worse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: this election is going to go on forever, isnt it.... Well certainly for a while with Georgia going to a runoff. But hey, that’s their choice to have that system. You know, states’ rights and all that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted November 11, 2022 This is where nobody pulls out his clever quip about the US catching a cold and the whole world sneezes or some lame sh1t like that. Watch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 When the US sneezes the world catches a cold. Duh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,418 Posted November 11, 2022 Biden- “We’re going to end fossil fuels” Proceeds to shut down pipelines, sanction Russia. Gas prices through the roof. Home heating oil as well. Leftards- Biden has nothing to do with the price of gas!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: US oil production is up since Biden took office, dummy. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m And let's not forget that oil was actually trading the negatives during covid. But yeah, it's all Biden's fault. Compared to covid times? Please tell me I don't have to explain this to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: The inflation stuff is real. The rest of that is some weird hyperventilating bullsh1t that tells me you need to turn off Fox News, etc., but the inflation stuff is real. Okay. It’s happening the whole world over, and many places worse than here. How in the hell is that Biden’s fault, specifically? If everyone else in the world is having the same problem, isn’t it reasonable to conclude that Biden has little, if anything, to do with it? And conversely, isn’t it irrational to lay it all at his feet when probably the best anyone else could’ve possibly done is only slightly less worse? I've probably seen fox news for 20 minutes in my entire life. I watch CNBC for about 8 hours a week though for the last 20 years. Maybe you should watch it some. You can figure out how economies are all interrelated. Not that you care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 By the way. This is about the 5th self-proclaimed centrist repeat this BS about it's all over the world how could it possibly have to do with Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 547 Posted November 11, 2022 Just read an article in the Las Vegas paper from a reporter who had six mail-in ballots accepted with him as the signer. If we don't start doing in-person voting with an ID, I think the whole process will become a sham...if it's not already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, nobody said: Biden spends us into exacerbated inflation. That has a triple whammy. First, it takes more money to retire. Second it tanks stocks. Third, it requires us to raise rates which in turn is going to hurt housing and as a result drag on stocks even more. Please, for love of abortion, please please please don't say we needed hindsight to know this was going to happen. This is very, very basic. But I suspect many centrists would be happy to work an extra 5 years because insurance will pay for a chick to travel a state over to get an abortion. So Biden, who's spent about 25% of what the Orange Moron spent is the cause of inflation? Did Biden add $8T to the debt? No Did Biden bully the Fed to keep rates low? No Did Biden cut taxes for the rich and flood the consumer market with additional $'s? No Just lmfao at blaming Biden when he took over a steaming pile of chit from Trump. Which he's fixing piece by piece. I see this is the low IQ side of the innerwebs. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 Jesus Christ. Trump spent too much trying to keep people afloat because the car vid police demanded we lock everything down. No question about it. Does that now mean, Biden should spend whatever he wants? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted November 11, 2022 At least we're getting away from the centrists claiming they think Biden sucks. It appears all the centrists are going to defend these Biden policies to the death. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites