Pronouns and hiring

[BuckSwope 250]

5 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

Oh but you are conceding. Just because you are OK with that doesn't make it untrue. FFS

I curious what the internet tough guys are willing to do at work.  Managing a group of people- you just refuse, don't hire them in the first place, quit in protest, give them a lecture about gender?  

Obviously you can't call them a different name or pronoun because you'd be conceding like me. 

[BuckSwope 250]

16 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It's not a distraction because it's not allowed. It wasnt acceptable to refer to the "latina" workers or call Juan "taco" because he likes that nickname before all the woke and pronoun BS.  It's a false equivalence.  Unless you want to say nickname pronouns shouldnt be allowed either.  

If they requested it or were fine with it? Sure it was and would be.  You and I have quite different work environments and experiences.  I guess I pretty removed from the office/corporate settings where this might occur more and people get pissy.   White, black, brown, straight, gay, non-binary, we mostly just roll with it and have fun.   Seems the workers who have the most friction with each other is the ESL workers in the kitchen.  

 

 

[Horseman 973]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

If they requested it or were fine with it? Sure it was and would be.  You and I have quite different work environments and experiences.  I guess I pretty removed from the office/corporate settings where this might occur more and people get pissy.   White, black, brown, straight, gay, non-binary, we mostly just roll with it and have fun.   Seems the workers who have the most friction with each other is the ESL workers in the kitchen.  

 

 

It was pretty obvious you dont work in a corporate setting.  Say hi to Nacho for me.  

[seafoam1 397]

39 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Someone asking to be called a nickname is not destroying an objective scientific truth.  By using pronouns, whether you think you are or not, is conceding that a male can be a female.  Pronoun use seems trivial, but is part of a larger piece of the puzzle furthering conformity to an untruth.  

It is not trivial in the least. It's a disgusting change of culture. 

[BuckSwope 250]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It was pretty obvious you dont work in a corporate setting.  Say hi to Nacho for me.  

I thought it was Taco?  Can't keep your stories straight.  

[Horseman 973]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

I thought it was Taco?  Can't keep your stories straight.  

Distinction without a difference. 

It's pretty clear you dont have a grasp on what is legally acceptable in a work environment or have experience in what occurs in most work environments.  That makes you the least interesting and least qualified to comment on what ought to happen with the newer pronoun conundrum. Have fun rolling with it at Hardees though.   

[Patented Phil 423]

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

I hate this cop out.  How about respecting my belief in actual biology and not ask me to act like you’re a different sex?

Exactly.  These narcissists don’t even see the hypocrisy.  We have to respect a ridiculous, mentally ill request to use “they” when describing one person.  But they don’t need to respect the 99.5% of people who will now have to change a fundamental aspect of human language that has been in place for thousands of years.

[Patented Phil 423]

The lady in the video is spot on.  I’d add that woke Libtards will never stop being activists, no matter how much is achieved or how well they are treated.  They will always be victims fighting against oppression.  It’s impossible to foster trust and teamwork with this type of mindset in the office.

[nobody 1,592]

I would entertain hiring someone that identified preferred pronouns that conform to gender norms.  I'd assume assume this person was just covering their bases.  Absolutely no chance I'd hire someone that wanted to go by "they"  or the opposite pronoun to their biological gender unless the person was some kind of genius with some unique skill set I needed.  It's just a higher risk of creating issues.

[Dizkneelande 308]

If you use pronouns you are definitely an h-mo 

[TimHauck 1,211]

This seems like a lot of generalizations.  I guess discrimination based on pronouns is the 2023 version of discrimination based on race or biological gender

[TimHauck 1,211]

This reminds me of reading a Twitter thread full of statistics and sources, and idiot righties replying with “pronouns in bio, your opinion means nothing.”

So much for judging people based on the content of their character.  And don’t tell me using a (usually biologically correct) pronoun tells you the content of someone’s character, that’s BS.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 1,616]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

This reminds me of reading a Twitter thread full of statistics and sources, and idiot righties replying with “pronouns in bio, your opinion means nothing.”

So much for judging people based on the content of their character.  And don’t tell me using a (usually biologically correct) pronoun tells you the content of someone’s character, that’s BS.

It's not BS.  Having pronouns in your bio actually reveals a lot about your character.  It shows that you're a narcissist, easily fooled, over emotional and a difficult person to work with.  None of that is good when building a team.

Hope that helps.

[listen2me 23 1,098]

We don't use pronouns here where I am at.  

[TimHauck 1,211]

28 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It's not BS.  Having pronouns in your bio actually reveals a lot about your character.  It shows that you're a narcissist, easily fooled, over emotional and a difficult person to work with.  None of that is good when building a team.

Hope that helps.

Lol. Maybe. Or it could show you are compassionate toward others.  Or maybe you just have an uncommon name where it’s not obvious whether you’re male or female.  

Generalizations are stupid.  But at least the GC continues to admit their biases.

[BuckSwope 250]

7 hours ago, Horseman said:

Distinction without a difference. 

It's pretty clear you dont have a grasp on what is legally acceptable in a work environment or have experience in what occurs in most work environments.  That makes you the least interesting and least qualified to comment on what ought to happen with the newer pronoun conundrum. Have fun rolling with it at Hardees though.   

I'm not telling you what ought to happen, I am just relaying some experience with people who choose to use pronouns where I work since this intellectual in the video's assumptions have been wrong in my experience.   Except the being left part, that part is a very fair assumption.   Which if we are all truthful - is probably enough for most of you.  

[GutterBoy 821]

11 hours ago, Horseman said:

I might have told this story before:

There was one in my office building that worked for our Client.  Older, long grey hair dressed as a woman.  No big deal other than his large hands and Adam's apple that kind of gave it away.  And him constantly talking about his wife.  So....now I think about it, not sure what that makes him.  One Friday, it must have been Spandex Friday and no one told me, and I saw him on my way to the restroom.  Spandex left no more doubt about it, it was a him.  Luckily he went into the woman's bathroom opposite of where I was headed.  And luckily he was transferred not soon thereafter.  Pretty amazing what is socially acceptable now days.

Horsesh1t checking out tranny d1ck in spandex is the least surprising thing in this thread

[frank 1,942]

47 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

We don't use pronouns here where I am at.  

[listen2me 23 1,098]

29 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol. Maybe. Or it could show you are compassionate toward others.  

At what point do we reach 100% snowflake?  Are we almost there? Can we get off the ride soon?

[listen2me 23 1,098]

Just now, frank said:

Lol.  Always deliver.

[GutterBoy 821]

3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

At what point do we reach 100% snowflake?  Are we almost there? Can we get off the ride soon?

I know the term snowflake was originally created for your stereotypical liberal who has fragile feelings, but we've seen a clear embrace by the right in this area where the term describes both extremes.  Case in point, conservatives being upset in this thread because someone puts pronouns in their email signature.  Who gives a fock.  Grow up.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 1,616]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Lol. Maybe. Or it could show you are compassionate toward others.  Or maybe you just have an uncommon name where it’s not obvious whether you’re male or female.  

Generalizations are stupid.  But at least the GC continues to admit their biases.

Yeah, I know.  I already said (well, implied) that when I posted that people who use pronouns are over-emotional and easily duped.

I hope you have a good chiropractor with all of the bending over excuses and pretzel logic you're using. 

[BuckSwope 250]

9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I know the term snowflake was originally created for your stereotypical liberal who has fragile feelings, but we've seen a clear embrace by the right in this area where the term describes both extremes.  Case in point, conservatives being upset in this thread because someone puts pronouns in their email signature.  Who gives a fock.  Grow up.

But it means they are lazy and will destroy their work environment!! 

 

[avoiding injuries 980]

You know who hired people with weird pronouns? SVB and the Biden administration. Both turned into complete dumpster fires. 

[listen2me 23 1,098]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I know the term snowflake was originally created for your stereotypical liberal who has fragile feelings, but we've seen a clear embrace by the right in this area where the term describes both extremes.  Case in point, conservatives being upset in this thread because someone puts pronouns in their email signature.  Who gives a fock.  Grow up.

Lol grow up says the 50 year old running around spasticaly calling people retards on an anoynomous forum for half his life.  

I don't care if people want to call themselves Queen Elisabeth.  I would do my best.  But the downright fragility of people is astonishing.  Only going to get more fragile with the left enabling it to high heavens.  

When kids want a toy or a fat wad of cotton candy anytime you go to the store and a parent says No.  Is that being mean? What if they start crying?  Is it mean to say no?  Or is it you just aren't going to play the game?

How about people that need certain names grow up? Who cares? Get over it.  

So the more fragile people become the more normal people have to conform? Is that how it goes?  At what point can I say no?  Someone who is sensitive and and demanding gets to call their shot and I have to kneel down to it?   Doesn't matter what it is, all they have to say is they are offended?

Like I said, if you want to be called Sue yet you are John with a dlck....thats fine.  Ill try my best.  But shut up.  

[avoiding injuries 980]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

But it means they are lazy and will destroy their work environment!! 

 

Culture is a pretty important aspect to a company, or a team within a company. Hiring one of these weirdos will definitely affect the culture in a negative way. 

[listen2me 23 1,098]

Honest queation here.  If I worked in an environment that had several pronouns people and we all got a long and we all accepted calling thrm what they wanted.  Can I request to be called "Dr listen2me"? Even though I am not exactly a doctor?  Would this be acceptable?

[BuckSwope 250]

2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Culture is a pretty important aspect to a company, or a team within a company. Hiring one of these weirdos will definitely affect the culture in a negative way. 

It could.   So could hiring anybody.  

You are wrong in the "definitely" part, as I have relayed my experience with co-workers who have different prounouns, but I am just a lowly burger flipper so that doesn't count.   I am sure all other settings, highering somebody will definitely affect the culture negatively.   

To the interesting question would be did it become negative because of the person with the pronoun, or people like you guys who "know" what this person is based on one data point and make it negative?  I'd say it's about 50/50 guess as to the why if it turns negative.  

[avoiding injuries 980]

8 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

It could.   So could hiring anybody.  

You are wrong in the "definitely" part, as I have relayed my experience with co-workers who have different prounouns, but I am just a lowly burger flipper so that doesn't count.   I am sure all other settings, highering somebody will definitely affect the culture negatively.   

To the interesting question would be did it become negative because of the person with the pronoun, or people like you guys who "know" what this person is based on one data point and make it negative?  I'd say it's about 50/50 guess as to the why if it turns negative.  

Well, I think the person with the pronoun, if they weren’t going to be disruptive, should direct their displeasure with the stereotype towards all the other pronoun people that have given us the available data points making the majority of people agree with the girl in the video. 

[avoiding injuries 980]

15 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Honest queation here.  If I worked in an environment that had several pronouns people and we all got a long and we all accepted calling thrm what they wanted.  Can I request to be called "Dr listen2me"? Even though I am not exactly a doctor?  Would this be acceptable?

Who do you you think you are, Jill Biden?

[iam90sbaby 1,744]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

This seems like a lot of generalizations.  I guess discrimination based on pronouns is the 2023 version of discrimination based on race or biological gender

Big difference is pronouns are a lefty fantasy and race actually exists 

[Dizkneelande 308]

29 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Honest queation here.  If I worked in an environment that had several pronouns people and we all got a long and we all accepted calling thrm what they wanted.  Can I request to be called "Dr listen2me"? Even though I am not exactly a doctor?  Would this be acceptable?

Avoiding nailed it 

[TimHauck 1,211]

55 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

At what point do we reach 100% snowflake?  Are we almost there? Can we get off the ride soon?

Lol, being compassionate towards others doesn’t necessarily mean you are a snowflake.  It could indicate you work well as part of a team, or care about others as a manager.  Here’s an idea though, call me crazy, why not judge people based on their qualifications and interviews, not whether or not they indicate their preferred pronouns?

 

20 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Well, I think the person with the pronoun, if they weren’t going to be disruptive, should direct their displeasure with the stereotype towards all the other pronoun people that have given us the available data points making the majority of people agree with the girl in the video. 

Can you all clarify what you are referring to when you say “pronoun people”?  Are you just referring to people that go by They or Xim and the like, or are you also including a guy or girl that puts he or she on his/her resume or email signature?  Not good to generalize either way, but big difference between the two and the likelihood of them fitting into your stereotypes.

[TommyGavin 439]

12 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

 I'm not sure she would be a joy to work with either.  

IDK but she can work my joystick anytime. 

[TimHauck 1,211]

21 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Who do you you think you are, Jill Biden?

 

7 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

It works for Jill Biden 

Zing!  You guys really need to work on your original material.  And Jill Biden has a Doctorate, which makes her a doctor.  Many people with PhD’s etc introduce themselves as doctor, this is not unique to Jill Biden.  Some even use them so people might think they are a medical doctor, like YouTube grifter John Campbell.

[Engorgeous George 452]

I agree that Jill Biden is not uniquely pretentious.

[Hardcore troubadour 9,807]

Buck needs the employees more than they need him. So it’s understandable that in his unique situation he has to play along. It’s a shame that the schools and other segments of society have played along, making this a thing in the first place. But it would be better if Buck just said that instead of claiming he’s being polite. You’re just being practical. 

[listen2me 23 1,098]

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 9,807]

28 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

 

 

Fat. Pipe down. Society doesn’t value you that’s why you’re so pissed.  Eat less 

[seafoam1 397]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

 

 

Trying to figure out if that is mooney, rusty, gutternuts, timhack, timcrotch, or mdcrack asking the question.