Strike 5,185 Posted May 26, 2023 https://www.thefp.com/p/judges-ruin-high-school-debate-tournaments What a shame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted May 26, 2023 How ridiculous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 26, 2023 The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,481 Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. So you're confirming that we're at "Step 2: It's happening, but it's not wide spread"? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted May 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. illegal alien defines it perfectly 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,185 Posted May 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. Who cares what you like? If your job is to judge a debate you don't get to interject your personal preferences in to it. I notice you don't even address the judge who used the N word in her synopsis and said black people don't have to share their evidence with non-black people but non-black people DO have to share with black people. To refresh your memory even though you supposedly read the entire article, here is what I'm talking about: Quote But X Braithwaite, who’s judged 169 debate rounds with 340 students, has her own disclosure policy in her paradigm, which uses a racial epithet: “1. N****s don’t have to disclose to you. 2. Disclose to n****s.” No racism there since only non-blacks can be racist, right middle of the road Timmy? Why do I have the feeling you just read the first couple paragraphs and didn't even see this example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,342 Posted May 26, 2023 This reminds me of the video clip I saw of a student who got an F on an assignment about "Transgender Females and Biological Females in Sports." The teacher failed her for using the non-inclusive language like "biological female." It's LITERALLY what her paper was about. https://poptopic.com.au/news/student-called-transphobic-and-failed-for-using-biological-women-in-project/#:~:text=The student was awarded a,media has sparked intense debate. Quote In her view, the controversy stems from her proposal’s final paragraph: “I intend to show how Title IX, which protects the equality of women in sports, is actively being violated in today’s world. Although a very controversial take, I will demonstrate the lack of support that is being shown for biological women who wish to compete fairly among other biological women while acknowledging the science behind the male figure having biological advantages regardless of hormone therapy, etc.” The patriarchy will always win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,342 Posted May 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Strike said: Who cares what you like? If your job is to judge a debate you don't get to interject your personal preferences in to it. I notice you don't even address the judge who used the N word in her synopsis and said black people don't have to share their evidence with non-black people but non-black people DO have to share with black people. To refresh your memory even though you supposedly read the entire article, here is what I'm talking about: No racism there since only non-blacks can be racist, right middle of the road Timmy? Why do I have the feeling you just read the first couple paragraphs and didn't even see this example? Tim is the biggest hypocrite on this board, IMO. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted May 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Tim is the biggest hypocrite on this board, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted May 26, 2023 theyve been trying to quell debate on internet forums like FBGs for years. no they are coming here trying to do the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted May 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Tim is the biggest hypocrite on this board, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. You never cease to amaze us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Strike said: Who cares what you like? If your job is to judge a debate you don't get to interject your personal preferences in to it. I notice you don't even address the judge who used the N word in her synopsis and said black people don't have to share their evidence with non-black people but non-black people DO have to share with black people. To refresh your memory even though you supposedly read the entire article, here is what I'm talking about: No racism there since only non-blacks can be racist, right middle of the road Timmy? Why do I have the feeling you just read the first couple paragraphs and didn't even see this example? You’re quite correct. I stopped reading about a third of the way through once I saw what the writer was doing. Why bother to read the rest? The woman you’re quoting is certainly racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Tim is the biggest hypocrite on this board, IMO. Well damn that’s a tough list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,185 Posted May 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re quite correct. I stopped reading about a third of the way through once I saw what the writer was doing. Why bother to read the rest? The woman you’re quoting is certainly racist. Yeah, I figured. What a focking idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, I figured. What a focking idiot. You’re not that bad. Give yourself some credit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted May 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re not that bad. Give yourself some credit. Grown ass man with the "I know you are but what am I?" come back. Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Grown ass man with the "I know you are but what am I?" come back. Pathetic. You don’t think calling someone a focking idiot is pathetic? Maybe not. For you it would be a step up; you’d see it as a compliment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You don’t think calling someone a focking idiot is pathetic? Not when it's true. Like in your case for example. You fit the description very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,181 Posted May 26, 2023 So this is what Joe Bryant has been up to after detonating his forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 540 Posted May 26, 2023 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. Get off the semantics merry go round. No one is saying their existence is illegal. Their presence in this country is illegal. They are illegal immigrants. The term is perfectly appropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,554 Posted May 26, 2023 5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. The word "illegal" in the phrase "illegal immigrant" is an adjective describing their immigration status, which is illegal. It is completely accurate and if that bothers you, that is a you problem, go crawl into a little ball in your safe space and cry. To call a person an "illegal" is a fair objection which is open for discussion. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted May 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: The word "illegal" in the phrase "illegal immigrant" is an adjective describing their immigration status, which is illegal. It is completely accurate and if that bothers you, that is a you problem, go crawl into a little ball in your safe space and cry. To call a person an "illegal" is a fair objection which is open for discussion. HTH its almost as if the opposite of LEGAL is ILLEGAL Legal Immigrant I don't know what the opposite should be called, let me think a while Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,185 Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: You don’t think calling someone a focking idiot is pathetic? Maybe not. For you it would be a step up; you’d see it as a compliment. Example 50202099 of why I said when you got here that you would bring nothing of value and slowly destroy what's left of this forum, as you did at FBG's. This is an excerpt of your first reply in this thread: Quote The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. The assertion in the 2nd sentence is provably wrong, as you acknowledged when I posted another example from the article. So, you made a provably wrong assertion because you literally didn't read the source material. I mean, it's one thing for you to be completely ignorant on topics when someone makes an assertion in a thread without supporting evidence. That's stupid too because you should do your own research. But in this case, I gave you a link to a story I thought was worth discussing. You read two paragraphs and decided that was enough that you could make an assertion that was easily proven wrong by the very article you REFUSED to read. So, you're either a focking idiot or a retard. Take your pick. I don't care. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, Strike said: Example 50202099 of why I said when you got here that you would bring nothing of value and slowly destroy what's left of this forum, as you did at FBG's. This is an excerpt of your first reply in this thread: The assertion in the 2nd sentence is provably wrong, as you acknowledged when I posted another example from the article. So, you made a provably wrong assertion because you literally didn't read the source material. I mean, it's one thing for you to be completely ignorant on topics when someone makes an assertion in a thread without supporting evidence. That's stupid too because you should do your own research. But in this case, I gave you a link to a story I thought was worth discussing. You read two paragraphs and decided that was enough that you could make an assertion that was easily proven wrong by the very article you REFUSED to read. So, you're either a focking idiot or a retard. Take your pick. I don't care. Lol I don’t care either. Your purpose, like that of the writer, is to argue that woke extremism is taking over all aspects of our lives. It’s a stupid argument. I can turn on any right wing talk radio idiot and hear the same garbage. It’s easy to dismiss (which I did) unless you’re pathetic, which you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted May 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Lol I don’t care either. Your purpose, like that of the writer, is to argue that woke extremism is taking over all aspects of our lives. It’s a stupid argument. I can turn on any right wing talk radio idiot and hear the same garbage. It’s easy to dismiss (which I did) unless you’re pathetic, which you are. Woke extremism is taking over the lives of you dumb ass liberals. In case you haven't noticed, the conservatives want none of it. It's you retards that keep pushing the crap and get all up in arms about a section of society calling you out for being the stupid liberal robots you are and accepting the hatred that you feed on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,386 Posted May 27, 2023 6 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Tim is the biggest hypocrite on this board, IMO. You left out sanctimonious, self-righteous, doosh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Woke extremism is taking over the lives of you dumb ass liberals. In case you haven't noticed, the conservatives want none of it. It's you retards that keep pushing the crap and get all up in arms about a section of society calling you out for being the stupid liberal robots you are and accepting the hatred that you feed on. In case you didn’t notice, it wasn’t any of us dumb ass retards who started this discussion. IT NEVER IS. Because we know that in the real world the extremists on the left are a tiny minority. They don’t make a bit of difference to anyone’s life, and if you idiots would stop talking about them, NOBODY WOULD. FWIW the right wing extremists are a small minority as well, and they would be equally insignificant if they didn’t unfortunately include a former President of the United States, trying to be one again, and his biggest supporters. So alas we have to take them a little more seriously. I wish it wasn’t so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: So you're confirming that we're at "Step 2: It's happening, but it's not wide spread"? Dood, cite me when you use my sh!y. fock, I am duink.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted May 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: In case you didn’t notice, it wasn’t any of us dumb ass retards who started this discussion. IT NEVER IS. Because we know that in the real world the extremists on the left are a tiny minority. They don’t make a bit of difference to anyone’s life, and if you idiots would stop talking about them, NOBODY WOULD. FWIW the right wing extremists are a small minority as well, and they would be equally insignificant if they didn’t unfortunately include a former President of the United States, trying to be one again, and his biggest supporters. So alas we have to take them a little more seriously. I wish it wasn’t so. Wrong. It takes a lot to be woke and push the agenda into ads, movies, commercials, stores, corporations, etc., and to go out of your way to support it by watching your p's and q's wherever you go in life. It takes nothing to post a thread pointing out your liberal stupidity and having a good laugh at it. You and generalpimpledoosh need to get some therapy, even if there is no cure for the extreme TDS you fools succumbed to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E. 703 Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But drawing them as a judge could lose someone their scholorship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: The first example the author gives is extreme and ridiculous and I strongly doubt representative of anyone but the woman that wrote it. But after that, the author attempts to combine it with other judges who make much more reasonable restrictions. I don’t like the word “illegal” myself to describe undocumented immigrants. I try not to use it even though I still do from time to time. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with restricting its use among high school debaters; it’s rude and offensive and inaccurate. A person can commit an illegal act (in this case a misdemeanor); a person cannot be illegal. Can a human being cross over our boarder illegally, and be considered an illegal immigrant? Is that not factual by it's very definition? How is truth considered rude and offensive? They are literally here illegally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted May 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, crackattack said: Can a human being cross over our boarder illegally, and be considered an illegal immigrant? Is that not factual by it's very definition? How is truth considered rude and offensive? They are literally here illegally. It’s dehumanizing. They’re guilty of a misdemeanor at worse, and you’re treating them like rapists or murderers. They’re not even criminals. Surely we can use more civilized terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted May 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s dehumanizing. They’re guilty of a misdemeanor at worse, and you’re treating them like rapists or murderers. They’re not even criminals. Surely we can use more civilized terms. Fock you. Chick would be alive if creepy joe didn't completely open the border. Do you want 1000 more of these stories? They aren't hard to find. ‘I Don’t Want Any Other Parent to Live Nightmare That I Am Living,’ Woman Tells House Panel of Daughter, 20, Killed by Illegal Alien https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/05/23/i-dont-want-any-other-parent-live-nightmare-i-am-living-mother-daughter-killed-illegal-alien-says/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted May 27, 2023 Who cares about debate team? A club for nerds who are also pricks. Worst of the worst. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted May 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s dehumanizing. They’re guilty of a misdemeanor at worse, and you’re treating them like rapists or murderers. They’re not even criminals. Surely we can use more civilized terms. There are plenty of murderers And rapists in those groups. Come here legally. it’s illegal to steal and a misdemeanor too in some cases so we should use a different term. That’s what you libtards continually do. Change the meanings of words to fit whatever criteria you want or for some political correctness nonsense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,123 Posted May 27, 2023 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s dehumanizing. They’re guilty of a misdemeanor at worse, and you’re treating them like rapists or murderers. They’re not even criminals. Surely we can use more civilized terms. How about Future Tim Exploitees? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,123 Posted May 27, 2023 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s dehumanizing. They’re guilty of a misdemeanor at worse, and you’re treating them like rapists or murderers. They’re not even criminals. Surely we can use more civilized terms. Curious how misdemeanants are not even criminals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted May 27, 2023 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s dehumanizing. They’re guilty of a misdemeanor at worse, and you’re treating them like rapists or murderers. They’re not even criminals. Surely we can use more civilized terms. I'm not treating them like murderers and rapists. That's liberal logic equating illegal immigrants to murderers and rapists. I call them what they are. Illegal immigrants or asylum seeking immigrants. If they murder or rape someone then they're called those terms. You guys are trying to twist language again to suit your interests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,092 Posted May 27, 2023 10 hours ago, dogcows said: Who cares about debate team? A club for nerds who are also pricks. Worst of the worst. This guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites