War in Israel

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

40 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It was a dumb joke from 20 years ago which you admitted that it wasn't racist, and I apologized to mdc if the post offended him.

But go ahead and find where is sided with a terrorist or child predator, or keep your mouth shut 

Yeah he does that a lot. Brings up crap from years ago. He’s incapable of intelligent argument. 

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8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Kvnt

I’m very impressed of this response to my anti terrorism an anti child sexualisation post.  
 

 

[Strike 5,188]

47 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It was a dumb joke from 20 years ago which you admitted that it wasn't racist, and I apologized to mdc if the post offended him.

But go ahead and find where is sided with a terrorist or child predator, or keep your mouth shut 

Dude, you either totally missed the point or you're purposely obfuscating it.  You said something racist.  You claimed up and down that you had NEVER posted anything racist.  I didn't go looking for it.  I told you at the time it wasn't worth my time.  But someone else found one. I'm sure there are plenty of others but I'm not gonna go looking for them.  But you said it and then said you hadn't.  Again, you lied about your posting history.  So why should anyone believe you now?  Maybe you made a "dumb joke" supporting terrorists or defending pedos.  Well, we know you defend pedos.  That's well documented.  But, either way, we know you lie about your posting history so why should anyone believe you?

[Strike 5,188]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah he does that a lot. Brings up crap from years ago. He’s incapable of intelligent argument. 

Have you looked at the links I posted earlier?  I realize links are something you never provide to support your idiotic arguments, but the ones I posted might teach you something so you wouldn't be so ignorant.

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2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

.... You're not the adult you think you are.

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 hours ago, Strike said:

  Well, we know you defend pedos.  That's well documented.  

Prove it or shut the fock up you focking lying sack of sh1t.

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2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Prove it or shut the fock up you focking lying sack of sh1t.

You're a horrible poster

[seafoam1 2,803]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Prove it or shut the fock up you focking lying sack of sh1t.

wow. 

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2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Prove it or shut the fock up you focking lying sack of sh1t.

They dont call you GutterPedo for no reason.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

11 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

They dont call you GutterPedo for no reason.  

What's the reason?

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 This guy reminds me of some of our locals.

What a piece of shlt...

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

MSNBC just showed a Palestinian woman, returning to a shelter that got hit by a bomb. Her entire family is dead: two daughters (one of them 4 years old), two sisters, her parents, her husband. She was screaming in agony. 

I can’t justify this. Sorry. Maybe she’s a Hamas lover, I don’t care. Maybe it makes me a weak supporter of Israel. I don’t care. This is wrong. That’s all. It’s wrong. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

MSNBC just showed a Palestinian woman, returning to a shelter that got hit by a bomb. Her entire family is dead: two daughters (one of them 4 years old), two sisters, her parents, her husband. She was screaming in agony. 

I can’t justify this. Sorry. Maybe she’s a Hamas lover, I don’t care. Maybe it makes me a weak supporter of Israel. I don’t care. This is wrong. That’s all. It’s wrong. 

Oh no!!! Send more money to Ukraine so they can keep their human trafficking (slavery)  business going.

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3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Prove it or shut the fock up you focking lying sack of sh1t.

C'mon bro, if you have ever voted for a Democrat in your life then you support pedos!!

[seafoam1 2,803]

Just now, TimHauck said:

C'mon bro, if you have ever voted for a Democrat in your life then you support pedos!!

True. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Editors’ note from The NY Times:

 

On Oct. 17, The New York Times published news of an explosion at a hospital in Gaza City, leading its coverage with claims by Hamas government officials that an Israeli airstrike was the cause and that hundreds of people were dead or injured. The report included a large headline at the top of The Times’s website.

Israel subsequently denied being at fault and blamed an errant rocket launch by the Palestinian faction group Islamic Jihad, which has in turn denied responsibility. American and other international officials have said their evidence indicates that the rocket came from Palestinian fighter positions.

The Times’s initial accounts attributed the claim of Israeli responsibility to Palestinian officials, and noted that the Israeli military said it was investigating the blast. However, the early versions of the coverage — and the prominence it received in a headline, news alert and social media channels — relied too heavily on claims by Hamas, and did not make clear that those claims could not immediately be verified. The report left readers with an incorrect impression about what was known and how credible the account was.

 

The Times continued to update its coverage as more information became available, reporting the disputed claims of responsibility and noting that the death toll might be lower than initially reported. Within two hours, the headline and other text at the top of the website reflected the scope of the explosion and the dispute over responsibility.

Given the sensitive nature of the news during a widening conflict, and the prominent promotion it received, Times editors should have taken more care with the initial presentation, and been more explicit about what information could be verified. Newsroom leaders continue to examine procedures around the biggest breaking news events — including for the use of the largest headlines in the digital report — to determine what additional safeguards may be warranted.

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13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

2. There is no support within the MSM for Hamas. None. I challenge you to prove otherwise, 

 

36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

MSNBC just showed a Palestinian woman, returning to a shelter that got hit by a bomb. Her entire family is dead: two daughters (one of them 4 years old), two sisters, her parents, her husband. She was screaming in agony. 

I can’t justify this. Sorry. Maybe she’s a Hamas lover, I don’t care. Maybe it makes me a weak supporter of Israel. I don’t care. This is wrong. That’s all. It’s wrong. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

7 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

 

If you think showing a Palestinian woman who has lost her family equals support for Hamas then you’re part of the problem. And you’re disgusting and vile. But I already knew all three points. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you think showing a Palestinian woman who has lost her family equals support for Hamas then you’re part of the problem. And you’re disgusting and vile. But I already knew all three points. 

You just said you don't care if she's Hamas.  You're completely unaware of how they just manipulated you.

And let me educate you a little bit:  They all support Hamas.  It's in the doctrine to eradicate Jews, from the river to the sea.  They teach that philosophy in the schools from the time a child is able to take instruction.  You can feel bad that they are brain washed that way, but, it is what it is.  It's a terrible religion and most of them would stab you in the back given the chance.  

[seafoam1 2,803]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you think showing a Palestinian woman who has lost her family equals support for Hamas then you’re part of the problem. And you’re disgusting and vile. But I already knew all three points. 

Go there and help the terrorists all you like. Or, just stop your feminine like whining. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

You just said you don't care if she's Hamas.  You're completely unaware of how they just manipulated you.

And let me educate you a little bit:  They all support Hamas.  It's in the doctrine to eradicate Jews, from the river to the sea.  They teach that philosophy in the schools from the time a child is able to take instruction.  You can feel bad that they are brain washed that way, but, it is what it is.  It's a terrible religion and most of them would stab you in the back given the chance.  

No I wrote that I don’t care if she sympathizes with Hamas, she doesn’t deserve to have her family die. A 4 year old doesn’t deserve to die because her mother cheers Hamas. 

Now if the woman  IS Hamas then she deserves to die. Her child and family still do not, And sympathizers who are not members don’t deserve to die. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

No I wrote that I don’t care if she sympathizes with Hamas, she doesn’t deserve to have her family die. A 4 year old doesn’t deserve to die because her mother cheers Hamas. 

Now if the woman  IS Hamas then she deserves to die. Her child and family still do not, And sympathizers who are not members don’t deserve to die. 

Best that they are gone. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Go there and help the terrorists all you like. Or, just stop your feminine like whining. 

I don’t think you’re capable of writing a post that isn’t either hateful, bigoted, or idiotic, Usually it’s all 3 but idiotic is the one that’s never missing. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think you’re capable of writing a post that isn’t either hateful, bigoted, or idiotic, Usually it’s all 3 but idiotic is the one that’s never missing. 

Oh the irony....

Keep up the strong hatred you have. It's very liberal of you. 

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30 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Editors’ note from The NY Times:

The Times continued to update its coverage as more information became available, reporting the disputed claims of responsibility and noting that the death toll might be lower than initially reported. Within two hours, the headline and other text at the top of the website reflected the scope of the explosion and the dispute over responsibility.

Given the sensitive nature of the news during a widening conflict, and the prominent promotion it received, Times editors should have taken more care with the initial presentation, and been more explicit about what information could be verified. Newsroom leaders continue to examine procedures around the biggest breaking news events — including for the use of the largest headlines in the digital report — to determine what additional safeguards may be warranted.

 

 

Nate Silver rips NY Times, NBC’s Ben Collins over Gaza coverage

.....Nate Silver took aim at the New York Times and NBC reporter Ben Collins over their coverage of the explosion near a Gaza hospital that was initially blamed on Israel.....Silver, the former head of data and polling news site FiveThirtyEight, said the Times “screwed up” by not changing its headline about the hospital incident after more details emerged suggesting that it was an errant Palestinian rocket that caused the blast.....The Times’ headline that was initially posted on Tuesday afternoon read: “Israeli Strike Kills Hundreds in Hospital, Palestinian Officials Say.”....“Almost every word of that first clause is now disputed,” Silver wrote in a blog posting on his Substack page.....The explosion apparently happened in a parking lot adjacent to the hospital, which remains largely intact. Silver also noted that the death toll “remains unclear” given that “forensic evidence doesn’t seem to be particularly consistent with a three-figure number.”

“Shouldn’t newsrooms just be more careful in these situations? The short answer is ‘yes,’” Silver wrote.....Silver wrote that the Times “frames itself as an innocent, passive actor” that was “neglecting its role in trying to steer” the coverage.....“That’s complete bulls–t, because the Times is extremely and often somewhat proudly self-conscious of this role,” Silver wrote.....Silver wondered why Robertson “couldn’t even get a comment from an editor in the Times newsroom” and instead “had to rely on the PR department.”

The New York Times misrepresented a photo of a semi-demolished building to be the location of the Gaza Hospital, which the paper initially reported on Tuesday as hit by an “Israeli strike.”...According to its own wire service, the Times identified the location of the photo to be in Khan Younis, a locality in the south of the Gaza Strip, which is not in the northern area of Gaza City.....The Times photo depicts a structure halfway demolished, an entirely different scene than photos reported by other establishment outlets. For example, CNN and the Wall Street Journal reported photos of the blast area showing what appeared to be a parking lot with trees nearby and without building debris.

“[W]hen NYTimes published a fictitious story from Hamas about Israel bombing a hospital, NYT used a picture from a completely different location to make it look like a picture of the hospital that was ‘destroyed,'” author and lawyer Michael P Senger posted on X. “Astonishing disinformation and journalistic malpractice.”...The misrepresentation of the blast site comes after the Times reportedly edited its headline twice on Tuesday about the hospital blast, changing the title each time to reflect less blame against Israel for the tragic explosion.

https://nypost.com/2023/10/20/nate-silver-rips-ny-times-nbcs-ben-collins-over-gaza-coverage/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/19/nyt-prints-dishonest-photo-fake-gaza-hospital-story-astonishing-disinformation/

 

[Engorgeous George 2,131]

So, after throwing gas on a fire during a shortage of firefighters the Times comes out and says they regret the house burning down and they will try to better in the future.  Seems a hollow apology missing, as it does, any reparations or restitution for the damage done.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

Today is the 40th anniversary of the suicide bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon. We were there playing peacekeeper between groups that want to kill each other, and still do. We should have let them. I fear we are about to make the same mistake. RIP to the Marines. 241 dead for nothing.  

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34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you think showing a Palestinian woman who has lost her family equals support for Hamas then you’re part of the problem. And you’re disgusting and vile. But I already knew all three points. 

 

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No I wrote that I don’t care if she sympathizes with Hamas, she doesn’t deserve to have her family die. A 4 year old doesn’t deserve to die because her mother cheers Hamas. 

Now if the woman  IS Hamas then she deserves to die. Her child and family still do not, And sympathizers who are not members don’t deserve to die. 

I've already explained to you multiple times, but you won't acknowledge or respond.  Hamas is evil and soulless, they rape and burn women and children.  Then they hide behind their own human shields.  If you do not support Israel doing what it must to eradicate Hamas, including collateral damage caused ENTIRELY BY HAMAS HIDING BEHIND INNOCENTS, then you support the raping and burning of women and children.

Every death in those humanizing pictures that the Leftist MSM shows you lies squarely in the arms of Hamas.  Unless you want Israel to back off, in which case Hamas will rape and burn more Israeli women and children.

There is no "I wish they could all just get along." 

Which side are you on, Tim?

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11 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

So, after throwing gas on a fire during a shortage of firefighters the Times comes out and says they regret the house burning down and they will try to better in the future.  Seems a hollow apology missing, as it does, any reparations or restitution for the damage done.  

I also imagine this correction is buried somewhere on their website, not front and center.

It is also one of those "apologies which isn't an apology," which I had to teach my children when they were young.  If your apology contains an explicit or implicit "but," it isn't an apology.

[seafoam1 2,803]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

 

I've already explained to you multiple times, but you won't acknowledge or respond.  Hamas is evil and soulless, they rape and burn women and children.  Then they hide behind their own human shields.  If you do not support Israel doing what it must to eradicate Hamas, including collateral damage caused ENTIRELY BY HAMAS HIDING BEHIND INNOCENTS, then you support the raping and burning of women and children.

Every death in those humanizing pictures that the Leftist MSM shows you lies squarely in the arms of Hamas.  Unless you want Israel to back off, in which case Hamas will rape and burn more Israeli women and children.

There is no "I wish they could all just get along." 

Which side are you on, Tim?

I wonder if there were any East German citizens who died in WW2? 

Can't support attacking nazi Germany I guess. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

I've already explained to you multiple times, but you won't acknowledge or respond.  Hamas is evil and soulless, they rape and burn women and children.  Then they hide behind their own human shields.  If you do not support Israel doing what it must to eradicate Hamas, including collateral damage caused ENTIRELY BY HAMAS HIDING BEHIND INNOCENTS, then you support the raping and burning of women and children.

Every death in those humanizing pictures that the Leftist MSM shows you lies squarely in the arms of Hamas.  Unless you want Israel to back off, in which case Hamas will rape and burn more Israeli women and children.

There is no "I wish they could all just get along." 

Which side are you on, Tim?

There are ways to eradicate Hamas without killing so many innocent people. That is the flaw in your argument. Israel isn’t doing “what it must”. It has choices. And in fact by killing innocents it is only helping Hamas. 

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28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No I wrote that I don’t care if she sympathizes with Hamas.

Distinction without a difference.  No surprise.  Must suck to have to keep doing that to justify yourself.  

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

“Their side killed children so my side has to kill children.” This argument is supposed to be morally acceptable? Bullsh!t. I will never accept it. And Fock anyone who thinks this way. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

“Their side killed children so my side has to kill children.” This argument is supposed to be morally acceptable? Bullsh!t. I will never accept it. And Fock anyone who thinks this way. 

Yep. And you are pro abortion. Focking liberal. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There are ways to eradicate Hamas without killing so many innocent people. That is the flaw in your argument. Israel isn’t doing “what it must”. It has choices. And in fact by killing innocents it is only helping Hamas. 

What's the answer then, Kissinger?

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

“Their side killed children so my side has to kill children.” This argument is supposed to be morally acceptable? Bullsh!t. I will never accept it. And Fock anyone who thinks this way. 

Yeah, that's what we're saying.  Logic is apparently not your friend.  You are like my pathetic blue pill niece on FB, guzzling the Leftist soundbites your MSM masters serve you up.  

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There are ways to eradicate Hamas without killing so many innocent people. That is the flaw in your argument. Israel isn’t doing “what it must”. It has choices. And in fact by killing innocents it is only helping Hamas. 

Care to elaborate on the bolded? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

I don’t recall Hamas warning the Israelis they were about to invade and to get women and children out.  

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Just now, jerryskids said:

What's the answer then, Kissinger?

Yeah, that's what we're saying.  Logic is apparently not your friend.  You are like my pathetic blue pill niece on FB, guzzling the Leftist soundbites your MSM masters serve you up.  

Too bad we can't all be so enlightened and independent thinkers to come to the conclusion that if we don't murder all the children in Gaza, then we support the murder of children in Israel.

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Just now, GutterBoy said:

Too bad we can't all be so enlightened and independent thinkers to come to the conclusion that if we don't murder all the children in Gaza, then we support the murder of children in Israel.

Yeah, I advocated murdering all the children in Gaza.  Sometimes I'm surprised you don't forget to breathe.

I wonder if you Hamas lovers ever think that if Israel wanted Gaza to be a sheet of glass, it would have been a sheet of glass long ago.  I doubt it.

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, I advocated murdering all the children in Gaza.  Sometimes I'm surprised you don't forget to breathe.

I wonder if you Hamas lovers ever think that if Israel wanted Gaza to be a sheet of glass, it would have been a sheet of glass long ago.  I doubt it.

You don't?  Well then let me just remind you, since you've forgotten, that Hamas is evil and soulless, they rape and burn women and children.  Then they hide behind their own human shields.  If you do not support Israel doing what it must to eradicate Hamas, including collateral damage caused ENTIRELY BY HAMAS HIDING BEHIND INNOCENTS, then you support the raping and burning of women and children.