BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 26, 2023 Best economy of the last 6 years. Helava job Biden. Brought down the inflation caused by Trump's reckless spending and addition of $8T to the debt in just four short, yet seemingly endless, years. Wages up massively. Inflation down Massively. Producing more domestic energy than at any time in history. Record low unemployment. Added back millions more jobs than Trump lost. NATO unified and dominating the world. Simply amazing. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26/economy/us-economy-third-quarter-gdp/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted October 26, 2023 I'm sure this will go over well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,147 Posted October 26, 2023 My Wallet disagrees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted October 26, 2023 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I'm sure this will go over well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm sure this will go over well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 26, 2023 True. Many conservatives are motivated by their feelings rather than facts. It's something that the unsophisticated have issues with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted October 26, 2023 The company I work for is cutting IT budget by 50% next year across the board. China is in real bad shape and their economy is big enough they could easily force a global recession soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: The company I work for is cutting IT budget by 50% next year across the board. China is in real bad shape and their economy is big enough they could easily force a global recession soon. Many companies on the other hand are expanding, building, and investing. Yes, China is in bad shape and could impact the world economy. However, they are mainly exporters so if they slow down imports it won't have a huge impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted October 26, 2023 if biden and this failed administration said 'sh1t tastes good, makes you smart and cures covid'. BeachGuy23 would strap a terd filled feed bag to his chest and walk around with it, cheeks puffed out like a chipmonk. 3 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted October 26, 2023 So to sum it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,559 Posted October 26, 2023 2 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: Best economy of the last 6 years. Helava job Biden. Brought down the inflation caused by Trump's reckless spending and addition of $8T to the debt in just four short, yet seemingly endless, years. Wages up massively. Inflation down Massively. Producing more domestic energy than at any time in history. Record low unemployment. Added back millions more jobs than Trump lost. NATO unified and dominating the world. Simply amazing. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26/economy/us-economy-third-quarter-gdp/index.html Impressive how you packed so much wrong into a single post. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 26, 2023 Just now, jerryskids said: Impressive how you packed so much wrong into a single post. What was wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,389 Posted October 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: My Wallet disagrees. And investments. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,096 Posted October 26, 2023 2 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: Best economy of the last 6 years. Helava job Biden. Brought down the inflation caused by Trump's reckless spending and addition of $8T to the debt in just four short, yet seemingly endless, years. Wages up massively. Inflation down Massively. Producing more domestic energy than at any time in history. Record low unemployment. Added back millions more jobs than Trump lost. NATO unified and dominating the world. Simply amazing. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26/economy/us-economy-third-quarter-gdp/index.html Does this mean that the Shark Tank guy who said the economy would start to collapse in Sept was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 26, 2023 Just now, Mike Honcho said: Does this mean that the Shark Tank guy who said the economy would start to collapse in Sept was wrong. No no, all the conservatives who disect each awesome unemployment and GDP report will tell you that Trump's unemployment and GDP numbers were 100% accurate while Biden's are 100% fake. Trump lovers can't quite get past their feelings and emotions. Not enough testosterone I imagine. For me, I'll accept the governments numbers just like I did during Trump's term. Trump's numbers added up to $8T added to the debt. Millions of jobs losses. And never hitting 3% GDP for a quarter or 4% for a year. Setting the groundwork for record breaking inflation. In other words those horrible four years were a massive fail compared to what we're experiencing now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 248 Posted October 26, 2023 Government spending needs to be decoupled from GDP. Also if inflation is claimed to be 2% and it is really 8% then the inflation adjustment won't accurately reflect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted October 26, 2023 Driven by consumer spending. Charge it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,584 Posted October 26, 2023 new home buyers are screwed today. If they sit out and the rates drop to soon say within a year it will spike prices upwards . If they pressure Powell to lower the rates for the election it will do us up the azz with no lube, I want things better financially and hope we do get a “soft landing”. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,699 Posted October 26, 2023 Poor Wade. SAD!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,051 Posted October 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, HellToupee said: new home buyers are screwed today. If they sit out and the rates drop to soon say within a year it will spike prices upwards . If they pressure Powell to lower the rates for the election it will do us up the azz with no lube, I want things better financially and hope we do get a “soft landing”. Yup. I'm in the market for a house and it's miserable out there for buyers. Fat prices, flat inventory and horrific interest rates. I didn't buy into the rosy economic projections during the early stages of Covid-19, not buying them now either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,096 Posted October 27, 2023 Pretty sure that this bump is due to Taylor Swift cashing her ERA's tour checks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Driven by consumer spending. Isn’t it always? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted October 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Isn’t it always? Sometimes we export products. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted October 27, 2023 8 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said: Best economy of the last 6 years. Helava job Biden. Brought down the inflation caused by Trump's reckless spending and addition of $8T to the debt in just four short, yet seemingly endless, years. Wages up massively. Inflation down Massively. Producing more domestic energy than at any time in history. Record low unemployment. Added back millions more jobs than Trump lost. NATO unified and dominating the world. Simply amazing. https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/26/economy/us-economy-third-quarter-gdp/index.html Could you be dumber? It's tough to imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted October 27, 2023 I miss Trump era economy and investments. Those were the days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,896 Posted October 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gepetto said: I miss Trump era economy and investments. Those were the days. I prefer Obama’s. No pandemics just boatloads in the market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,614 Posted October 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: Pretty sure that this bump is due to Taylor Swift cashing her ERA's tour checks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,614 Posted October 27, 2023 7 hours ago, HellToupee said: What is “real fixed private investment”? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted October 27, 2023 Remember when the US sold rice to China?I miss Trump. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Remember when the US sold rice to China?I miss Trump. Trump never came close to this kind of GDP growth. Our trade deficit with China hit records under Trump. The Trump economy sucked. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,614 Posted October 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Trump never came close to this kind of GDP growth. Our trade deficit with China hit records under Trump. The Trump economy sucked. Come on man you gotta be trolling. It was great until Covid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,381 Posted October 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Trump never came close to this kind of GDP growth. Our trade deficit with China hit records under Trump. The Trump economy sucked. That's not accurate at all. I can't stand Trump but let's not make crap up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's not accurate at all. I can't stand Trump but let's not make crap up. Ok let's discuss facts. Trump's pre-covid economy never hit 3% GDP for a year or 4% for a quarter. Unemployment was 4.7% and trending down when he stained the office the first year. It came down another 1%. The US/China trade deficit hit all time highs under Trump. The debt pre-covid increased over Obama's last four years. Trump bullied the Fed to keep rates low and flooded the market with money with his tax cuts for the rich. Trump took a fine economy left by Obama and just flooded it with money which caused the inflation we've seen. These are facts. And yet the country's growth was the worst of all time for presidents. Maybe sucked is too strong a word. I'll relable it "fine" but with the stage set for the inflation that the Fed has had to deal with. Facts fellows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 628 Posted October 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Come on man you gotta be trolling. It was great until Covid Let's not rule out the fact that's an uneducated moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,096 Posted October 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said: Trump never came close to this kind of GDP growth. Our trade deficit with China hit records under Trump. The Trump economy sucked. I'm as left as you get and wouldn't say the economy sucked under Trump. If you draw lines on unemployment and GDP graphis, you would see most of that growth was started under the previous administration and just continued under Trump. What Trump and GOP accomplished was giant tax cuts(unsustainable) for corporate and the upper levels, that gave the economy a nitro like boost that inevitably wears off quickly and takes it toll on the engine---in even more national debt. People really need to look at the economy like they are looking at a giant ship like the Titanic. It doesn't move quickly, it doesn't stop or turn on a dime, but can be sunk by a catastrophic event(covid, housing crisis). The passage of Chips, Inflation Reduction a couple of years ago are starting to take effect now. Just like turning a giant ship, it's not a fast process. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,927 Posted October 27, 2023 Think about it. We sold rice to China! They invented the stuff! Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm as left as you get and wouldn't say the economy sucked under Trump. If you draw lines on unemployment and GDP graphis, you would see most of that growth was started under the previous administration and just continued under Trump. What Trump and GOP accomplished was giant tax cuts(unsustainable) for corporate and the upper levels, that gave the economy a nitro like boost that inevitably wears off quickly and takes it toll on the engine---in even more national debt. People really need to look at the economy like they are looking at a giant ship like the Titanic. It doesn't move quickly, it doesn't stop or turn on a dime, but can be sunk by a catastrophic event(covid, housing crisis). The passage of Chips, Inflation Reduction a couple of years ago are starting to take effect now. Just like turning a giant ship, it's not a fast process. This is exactly right and why blaming Biden for inflation that started skyrocketing less than 3 months into his term is absurd and a stance only taken by the mentally challenged among us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted October 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Think about it. We sold rice to China! They invented the stuff! Lol. Who invented microchips? Where do we buy them from? Well under Trump anyway. Biden is actually bring technology building back to the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites