Elon Musk - Anti Semite

[HellToupee 1,586]

3 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/official-donald-trump-for-president-thread.745802/page-692#post-19483045

timschochet: "I wrote that Polanski's crime was having sex with a 12 year old who looked like she was 20, and while I considered that wrong, I didn't consider it to be on the level of someone forcing himself on a prepubescent child."

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/official-hillary-clinton-2016-thread.721079/page-833#post-19261391

timschochet: "I thought it was a case of consensual sex, and also that Polanski might have been unaware of the girl's age. At worse, I thought it was statutory rape, and while that is a crime worthy of punishment (as I stated) I didn't think it was worthy of lifelong condemnation. "

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/planned-parenthood-leaked-video.729149/page-19#post-18238697

timschochet: "I'm not going to get into the Polanski stuff here- nobody wants to hear it. But you completely misrepresented what I wrote about that- (you have several times now.) And you have no idea what my moral compass is."

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/donald-sterling-vs-cliven-bundy.706115/page-2#post-16762001

timschochet: "Sorry but I made a promise to the mods that I would never again discuss Roman Polanski in this forum."

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/official-hillary-clinton-2016-thread.721079/page-812#post-19250197

cobalt_27: "This is an awful take, but entirely consistent with someone who defends the elite when, for example, they commit rape.  Thinking back to your defense of Polanski, it's clear that even back then you were talking about how "the elite should be immune from these sorts of situations."  Man, this place was so much better when you were on a timeout.  

timschochet: "I am very sorry you feel that way. I would never defend a member of the elite from a charge of rape or any other serious charge. If you believe that, then you grossly misunderstand me....My defense of Polanski was based on some misinformation on my part, which I have apologized for numerous times later on. I do not stand by what I wrote there, and it has no bearing to this situation." 

 

*****

"So eloquent"

I’m getting an Ed Buck type of vibe from digging in that thread

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

1. What Susan Sarandon said was rather stupid IMO but it wasn’t anti-Semitic. 

2. What Roger Waters is saying verges on anti-Semitism but I’m not quite sure he’s crossed that line. He’s pretty nuts though.

3. Rashida Tliab has made comments that are clearly anti-Semitic. 

4. Marjorie Taylor Greene has made comments that are clearly anti-Semitic (but also really off the wall).

5. Elon Musk has made comments that are clearly anti-Semitic. 
 

Each of these situations needs to be looked at separately, keeping in mind that there is a distinction between anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel. Most importantly, leave your political prejudices aside. Stop defending someone who goes off the rails simply because you think they’re on “your side”. It makes you look ridiculous. 

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

16 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/mr-ishidas-bookstore-by-timschochet-starts-post-181.543177/#post-12153546

timschochet: ".....they had met some time before in Paris at an establishment known for its gambling and women, and only open to “gentlemen”. His name was Stephen Wynitski, and he was a baron from the Kingdom of Poland. He was a tall, good looking man in his early 20’s, and proved himself a match for the revelry that the Duke so enjoyed, so much so that Ferdinand issued him a standing invitation to come visit Spain whenever he wanted to.....

Stephen Wynitski was attracted to Ferdinand, and was also envious of the Dukes’ finances. Stephen’s own were a very different story; he had come on this trip across Europe with two servants to avoid the very depressing reality that he would, within a few years, be completely bankrupt..... Stephen had no knowledge of financial matters other than to realize that his affairs were in deep trouble. He became intensely interested when the Duke described how two Jewish brothers managed the Matiste Estates. Stephen admired Jews, whom he believed to be blessed with mystic powers where money was involved.....Therefore, within a few days after he had arrived at the Duke’s home, Stephen sought out a private meeting with Moses Goldstein. He avoided Jacob; perhaps, Stephen thought, a Jew loses some of his strange powers once he converts.

“It is not my intention to intrude upon my host’s hospitality,” the Baron began in heavily accented Spanish to a mystified Moses Goldstein, who had no idea why this private meeting was taking place, “but I understand from what the Duke tells me that your brother has converted, but that you will not, despite the hatred in this land towards Jews?”

“There is hatred everywhere towards Jews” Moses replied smoothly. “My brother and I disagree on this matter. In all other things we are united, and our main purpose remains as always, to serve the Duke.”.....Stephen hesitated. He realized now he had better be cautious; probably Jews did not like to discuss their sorcery with non-Jews. … “Why are you telling me all this?” he finally asked......“I will be frank with you,” the Baron replied. “I need a Jew to manage my affairs, the way you manage the Duke’s affairs. I believe that with your magic, I mean with your skills, you can turn what at present is not such a fine state of affairs into wealth. I have heard from the Duke that your brother has converted; therefore, I figured that you might be available to come to Poland with your family, and escape the mistreatment you suffer here. I could pay you extremely well, and you would live free....”

 

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Let me ping some people here so they can see this. 

@seafoam , @League Champion , @Hardcore troubadour , @jonmx, @Patented Phil , @Tree of Knowledge @HellToupee , @BirdGang, @BrahmaBulls, @EternalShinyAndChrome , @RogerDodger, @RaiderHaters Revenge and I'm sure I've missed a few folks.

Here is timschochet, using the "other place" to push his pseudo gay porn antisemitic fan fiction. 

Tim likes to talk about things that are "only open to gentlemen"

Then he talks about Jews having sorcery and the key to all this is a guy named Moses Goldstein ( So subtle in his self loathing there...) 

Later he talks about the most important thing is to "serve the Duke" in a "match for his revelry"

Of course, Tim being Tim, made sure there was a price involved. For these "services", there would be "extremely well" payment. (Maybe this is why Tim defended Roman Polanski so much, because there was probably a payoff at some point and for Tim that must wipe the entire slate clean) 

Tim hate his own people so much he writes fan fiction about them being pimped out. 

I don't have a problem with those who choose or live the LGBT lifestyle, but I've never believed Tim was "secretly gay". Well the "secretly" part at least. 

Through the looking glass.

[Strike 5,186]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. What Susan Sarandon said was rather stupid IMO but it wasn’t anti-Semitic. 

 

She was chanting "From the river, to the sea, Palestine will be free."  That is one of the most anti semitic things you can say in the current environment.  As usual, you are either willfully ignorant of simply a lib apologist. 

Edit - I forgot the third option.  You're as anti semitic as her and are just protecting your fellow anti semite squad member. 

Of those choices, I go with number three. 

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

26 minutes ago, Strike said:

She was chanting "From the river, to the sea, Palestine will be free."  That is one of the most anti semitic things you can say in the current environment.  As usual, you are either willfully ignorant of simply a lib apologist. 

Maybe she meant from the Hudson river or the East River out to the Atlantic.  Maybe she was offering Palestinians a homeland in NYC.  She's pretty stupid.  But really, who cares what she has to say?  Her only relevance is that she was passably doable as a young woman.  Now, just a crazy old crone.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

Who could have imagined that Mr. Ishida's Bookstore would have such an international sweep.  Please tell me there is another character of jewish decent, a Shlomo Rubinowicz, a diamond merchant who also loans money.  Maybe it could have a german, Aryan Whitesmann, a fellow who watches Johnny Quest reruns because he gets sexually aroused whenever Race Bannon is on screen.

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

25 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Who could have imagined that Mr. Ishida's Bookstore would have such an international sweep.  Please tell me there is another character of jewish decent, a Shlomo Rubinowicz, a diamond merchant who also loans money.  Maybe it could have a german, Aryan Whitesmann, a fellow who watches Johnny Quest reruns because he gets sexually aroused whenever Race Bannon is on screen.

I enjoy your names. 
 

The book Blue Horseshoe quoted wasn’t Ishida. It was an earlier novel. I am proud of both! 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

37 minutes ago, Strike said:

She was chanting "From the river, to the sea, Palestine will be free."  That is one of the most anti semitic things you can say in the current environment.  As usual, you are either willfully ignorant of simply a lib apologist. 

Edit - I forgot the third option.  You're as anti semitic as her and are just protecting your fellow anti semite squad member. 

Of those choices, I go with number three. 

It’s an awful saying but it’s not clearly anti-Semitic to me. It’s certainly anti-Israel. 
 

However I was referring to the specific comments she made recently, not the chant. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. What Susan Sarandon said was rather stupid IMO but it wasn’t anti-Semitic. 

2. What Roger Waters is saying verges on anti-Semitism but I’m not quite sure he’s crossed that line. He’s pretty nuts though.

3. Rashida Tliab has made comments that are clearly anti-Semitic. 

4. Marjorie Taylor Greene has made comments that are clearly anti-Semitic (but also really off the wall).

5. Elon Musk has made comments that are clearly anti-Semitic. 
 

Each of these situations needs to be looked at separately, keeping in mind that there is a distinction between anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel. Most importantly, leave your political prejudices aside. Stop defending someone who goes off the rails simply because you think they’re on “your side”. It makes you look ridiculous. 

I mostly agree with this.

You have some reservations as to the application of "anti-semetic"....that it perhaps is being a little misused.  I get that.

Have you considered, from where this inclination to take a term and slop it around without restraint may have arisen?  Does the act seem at all familiar? 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I mostly agree with this.

You have some reservations as to the application of "anti-semetic"....that it perhaps is being a little misused.  I get that.

Have you considered, from where this inclination to take a term and slop it around without restraint may have arisen?  Does the act seem at all familiar? 

Sure. It mostly comes from intolerant liberals who are eager to label racism on everyone who disagrees with them about policy decisions regarding racial issues. I’m not afraid to acknowledge that. It’s an awful thing and conservatives have a right to be outraged about it. 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure. It mostly comes from intolerant liberals who are eager to label racism on everyone who disagrees with them about policy decisions regarding racial issues. I’m not afraid to acknowledge that. It’s an awful thing and conservatives have a right to be outraged about it. 

I always appreciate your candor.

I only wish more folks were able to see the world so clearly. I am non-plussed about watching the term anti-semetic be used so much at the moment. I think it infers intent where it likely should not be.  Some of these folks I think ARE clearly hateful and anti-semetic, but if we look more closely, we can see plenty of liberals pushing back on these people. Which is warmly welcomed. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s an awful saying but it’s not clearly anti-Semitic to me. It’s certainly anti-Israel. 

However I was referring to the specific comments she made recently, not the chant. 

The chanting was at the SAME event as her other comments.  And ALL of those comments were abhorrent and anti-semitic.  But ant-semites don't see it that way so I'm not surprised you're defending her. 

[lod001 1,344]

This guy is what stands between freedom of speech and media controlled lefttard 1984 type speech.

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Elon will not be bullied.  And I’m here for it.  

Amazing!  

[jonmx 2,424]

1 hour ago, lod001 said:

This guy is what stands between freedom of speech and media controlled lefttard 1984 type speech.

 

This is how you have to respond to those authoritarian bastards.  People are so f-ing sick of being bullied by hollier than thou leftists.   Go fuk yourself is perfect.  I am giving up being decent to these authoritarian bullies a long time ago.   

[Reality 3,096]

Every American should be outraged over this shlt. Without Elon's platform, we'd be absolutely .

 

[jonmx 2,424]

Government censorship in the country has reach levels never before seen.  It is out of control and the authoritarian bastard love their power and will not give it up easily.  

 

[The Psychic Observer 496]

Can't wait until musk gets outed as a pedo

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

5 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Can't wait until musk gets outed as a pedo

Cause you’ll love him then 

[jonmx 2,424]

It is funny how the left loved Musk when he was making electric cars and going to space.   But now he is offering a platform which is not participating in the mass government censorship, and he is the devil.   Seriously, all you leftists are nothing but a bunch of idiotic browshirt bootlickers marching in lockstep to whatever the narrative is being put out by their media.   It is f-ing disgusting what leftists have become.   

[BeachGuy23 642]

Musk ruined twitter by letting all the alt right conspiracy theory believing morons and racist back on the site from what I've heard.

But I still dig Musk for pushing the envelope and applaud him for telling companies to go F themselves.  Corporations have way too much power in this country and they act only in the interest of their C suite and stockholders, workers and the public be damned.

Good on you Elon. 

[jonmx 2,424]

14 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Musk ruined twitter by letting all the alt right conspiracy theory believing morons and racist back on the site from what I've heard.

 

And by alt-right racists, you mean anyone who suggested that the mass lockdowns or Vaccine mandates went too far, or that maybe the covid virus leaked out of a fucci-funded Chinese lab, or that maybe global warmers are grossly exaggerating things so they can control your energy usage and make massive profits, or that Hunter might be a corrupt bastard selling government aid in exchange for personal gain, or that some kid being chased by a mob of felons and pedofiles has a right to defend himself, or that maybe the thing inside a mother might be a baby.

Just fuk you, you bootlicking authoritarian moron. And I mean that in the nicest way. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jonmx said:

And by alt-right racists, you mean anyone who suggested that the mass lockdowns or Vaccine mandates went too far, or that maybe the covid virus leaked out of a fucci-funded Chinese lab, or that maybe global warmers are grossly exaggerating things so they can control your energy usage and make massive profits, or that Hunter might be a corrupt bastard selling government aid in exchange for personal gain, or that some kid being chased by a mob of felons and pedofiles has a right to defend himself, or that maybe the thing inside a mother might be a baby.

Just fuk you, you bootlicking authoritarian moron. And I mean that in the nicest way. 

I don't know why you're so angry first thing in the morning.  Do you disagree that it's way easier to be overtly racist on twitter now than pre-Musk?  That any moron who wants to spread whatever CT they want can't do so unchecked now?  I do think there should be very little censorship but crap like overt racism and ridiculous CT like pizzagate should not be given enough oxygen to spread.

[jonmx 2,424]

19 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

I don't know why you're so angry first thing in the morning.  Do you disagree that it's way easier to be overtly racist on twitter now than pre-Musk?  That any moron who wants to spread whatever CT they want can't do so unchecked now?  I do think there should be very little censorship but crap like overt racism and ridiculous CT like pizzagate should not be given enough oxygen to spread.

I really don't care if alt-right, alt-left, racists, commies, or whomever who can spread their ideas.   That is what Free Speech is all about.  Free Speech is the most important fundamental building block of a free society.  Without it, we are doomed to be slaves to the elitist masters.   I don't know what it will take to get that through the pea-brain head of yours which had not had an original thought in decades.  

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, jonmx said:

I really don't care if alt-right, alt-left, racists, commies, or whomever who can spread their ideas.   That is what Free Speech is all about.  Free Speech is the most important fundamental building block of a free society.  Without it, we are doomed to be slaves to the elitist masters.   I don't know what it will take to get that through the pea-brain head of yours which had not had an original thought in decades.  

You made me laugh friend.

Thank you for that.

[Mike Honcho 5,096]

14 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

Elon will not be bullied.  And I’m here for it.  

Amazing!  

Only at the geek club will you find the self-proclaimed "free speech absolutist" worth 250B suing a non-profit for defamation, for something his complaint admits happened and conclude he was being bullied. 

You aren't wrong KSB, it is amazing. 

[jonmx 2,424]

8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Only at the geek club will you find the self-proclaimed "free speech absolutist" worth 250B suing a non-profit for defamation, for something his complaint admits happened and conclude he was being bullied. 

You aren't wrong KSB, it is amazing. 

 

You lying leftist bastards are being intentionally obtuse.  Media Matters is a Soros funded whacko leftist organization, not some poor non-profit charity.  Media Matters is manufacturing fraudulent screenshots to persuade advertisers to pull their ads from 'X'.   Favoring Free Speech does not mean you support fraud and defamation.   

Suppprting Free Speech is to support the open marketplace of ideas where ideas can compete without the government or their corporate minions tipping the scales through censorship.  

There is not one of you leftist authoritarian bastards who come remotely close to supporting free speech or really any of the foundational blocks of the United States of America.   All you leftist bastards ever do is bootlick and parrot whatever the elitist narrative from the corporate-government media tells you to.

 

[RLLD 4,143]

3 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Musk ruined twitter by letting all the alt right conspiracy theory believing morons and racist back on the site from what I've heard.

But I still dig Musk for pushing the envelope and applaud him for telling companies to go F themselves.  Corporations have way too much power in this country and they act only in the interest of their C suite and stockholders, workers and the public be damned.

Good on you Elon. 

 

Your presumption that conspiracy does not exist is precious, but our history is one big conspiracy, as was history prior to the formation of this nation. I assure you....nothing happens by chance. 

[The Real timschochet 6,416]

“You Lying Leftist Bastards

7 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

You lying leftist bastards 

 

I now picture Jon as Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford from Mommie Dearest, it makes his posts much more enjoyable. 

[Ron_Artest 1,056]

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ELON Musk has admitted it was a mistake to respond to an antisemitic tweet on X, calling it the "most foolish thing" he's done on the platform.

The X mega boss made the bombshell comment during an interview at The New York Times DealBook Summit on Wednesday night, saying he was "sorry" for handing "a loaded gun" to those who hold antisemitic ideologies.

 

At least he admitted he was wrong, instead of making excuses and trying to spin it another way like his sycophants did here.

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

At least he admitted he was wrong, instead of making excuses and trying to spin it another way like his sycophants did here.

Irony.

[jonmx 2,424]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

 

Your presumption that conspiracy does not exist is precious, but our history is one big conspiracy, as was history prior to the formation of this nation. I assure you....nothing happens by chance. 

It is funny, back in the day Garlin was considered a far-left liberal.  Today he would be called an alt-right conspiracy nut white-supremist.  

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

It is funny, back in the day Garlin was considered a far-left liberal.  Today he would be called an alt-right conspiracy nut white-supremist.  

He was an opponent to power, now Liberals have the power, therefore his mentality to challenge power would naturally be a threat to Liberals; who are among the most intolerant of people as well. 

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4 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Musk ruined twitter by letting all the alt right conspiracy theory believing morons and racist back on the site from what I've heard.

 

Here's a thought.  Don't read them.  No one is forcing you to read their posts.  That's the beauty of freedom of speech .

[Hardcore troubadour 14,932]

Twitter is ruined? People seem to really like it and use it. 

[RLLD 4,143]

28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Twitter is ruined? People seem to really like it and use it. 

I think that will depend.  Sometimes it takes time to fix things, and there is some initial error and problems.  For now we just need to wait and see what Musk comes up with.

I am moderately amused that Musk is ruining "X" with his apparent embracing of "far right" but Disney is at the same time somehow NOT being hurt by leftist embracing..... one is almost left with the notion that Liberals are perhaps....sorta....hypocritical.....

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

4 hours ago, BeachGuy23 said:

I don't know why you're so angry first thing in the morning.  Do you disagree that it's way easier to be overtly racist on twitter now than pre-Musk?  That any moron who wants to spread whatever CT they want can't do so unchecked now?  I do think there should be very little censorship but crap like overt racism and ridiculous CT like pizzagate should not be given enough oxygen to spread.

The left has been spreading the conspiracy that men can become women on Twitter for a decade. Where is your outrage to silence that conspiracy?

[RLLD 4,143]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

The left has been spreading the conspiracy that men can become women on Twitter for a decade. Where is your outrage to silence that conspiracy?

Projection.  This is the main behavior of leftists.  So when they announce or assail, that should be our "tell" to start looking into THEM around that very point.

Liberals already know what is wrong, are already doing that thing, project it on to others as a distraction.  We have seen this tactic repeatedly. The point to others as conspiratorial to denigrate them or their message, all the while they loudly trot out their own actual conspiracies.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,833]

5 hours ago, jonmx said:

And by alt-right racists, you mean anyone who suggested that the mass lockdowns or Vaccine mandates went too far, or that maybe the covid virus leaked out of a fucci-funded Chinese lab, or that maybe global warmers are grossly exaggerating things so they can control your energy usage and make massive profits, or that Hunter might be a corrupt bastard selling government aid in exchange for personal gain, or that some kid being chased by a mob of felons and pedofiles has a right to defend himself, or that maybe the thing inside a mother might be a baby.

Just fuk you, you bootlicking authoritarian moron. And I mean that in the nicest way. 

no, by "alt-right racists" he means everyone who doesn't agree and vote like him.  Seriously, that's what liberals mean nowadays when they call you words ending in "ist" and "phobe".

He can be safely ignored.