University presidents won’t condemn antisemitism

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

But...but...but...she checked ALL of the diversity/victim boxes!!!!!!!!

Plus she wears the “I’m really smart” glasses. 

[Reality 3,121]

What an incredible embarrassment this has turned into for the local liberals. It's not too late, apologize, admit your stupidity and move on.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

This is what you're upset with him for wanting removed from school libraries. Know that the book is illustrated.

Now that you know the context of what he's talking about, do you still feel he has no point in wanting to make it unavailable to children in a school library? Or would you agree that such a book should not be available in a school library?

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In all seriousness, I was surprised to hear that those were the words of an illustrated children’s book for small children.

So I looked it up and, turns out, that’s not quite true.

It is from a novel intended for teenagers. Yes it is a graphic novel. But this would not be in elementary school libraries so I believe it is misleading.

In addition it apparently has been pulled from several schools. https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/senate-book-ban-hearing-gets-nsfw-with-sexually-graphic-reading/amp/

I remember in the 90s when there was a huge national kerfuffle over some book where a kid had two dads. It was obviously bullsh1t. So I’m pretty skeptical of this stuff now.

Librarians should be responsible about what they’re putting in school libraries, but I also know these conservatives are 100% not above lying or blowing things way out of any rational sense of proportion, to score political points and get their dumbass base riled up.

That concludes my thoughts on “porn in schools.” HTH

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It moved

 

In all seriousness, I was surprised to hear that those were the words of an illustrated children’s book for small children.

So I looked it up and, turns out, that’s not quite true.

It is from a novel intended for teenagers. Yes it is a graphic novel. But this would not be in elementary school libraries so I believe it is misleading.

In addition it apparently has been pulled from several schools. https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/senate-book-ban-hearing-gets-nsfw-with-sexually-graphic-reading/amp/

I remember in the 90s when there was a huge national kerfuffle over some book where a kid had two dads. It was obviously bullsh1t. So I’m pretty skeptical of this stuff now.

Librarians should be responsible about what they’re putting in school libraries, but I also know these conservatives are 100% not above lying or blowing things way out of any rational sense of proportion, to score political points and get their dumbass base riled up.

That concludes my thoughts on “porn in schools.” HTH

“I was wrong. It’s your fault”. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

“I was wrong. It’s your fault”. 

How about, “don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining”

[Strike 5,445]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

I'm not surprised you're ignorant on this topic.  You and @The Real timschochet share this attribute frequently.  However, I'm fine with educating you AGAIN:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/08/us/alan-dershowitz-virginia-giuffre-allegations-dropped/index.html

BUMP for  @IGotWorms

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

BUMP for  @IGotWorms

So what? Doesn’t change the fact he was Epstein’s best bud and a huge creep:

 https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/30/20746983/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-sarah-ransome-giuffre

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

So what? Doesn’t change the fact he was Epstein’s best bud and a huge creep:

 https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/7/30/20746983/alan-dershowitz-jeffrey-epstein-sarah-ransome-giuffre

Funny, liberals keep talking about Epstein (a liberal), but it’s liberals that are suppressing the information. 

[Ron_Artest 1,343]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

I'm not surprised you're ignorant on this topic.  You and @The Real timschochet share this attribute frequently.  However, I'm fine with educating you AGAIN:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/08/us/alan-dershowitz-virginia-giuffre-allegations-dropped/index.html

I think you're the one who needs education

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-victim-was-grilled-about-alan-dershowitzs-bleeding--said-she-was-forced-into-threesome

[IGotWorms 4,057]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Funny, liberals keep talking about Epstein (a liberal), but it’s liberals that are suppressing the information. 

Not me. I say out them all. But for now we all know of a few, like Dershowitz, Bill Clinton, Prince Albert, Lex Wexner and Donald Trump

[seafoam1 2,940]

Jeez. MDC is really failing even more than normal. 

[seafoam1 2,940]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Not me. I say out them all. But for now we all know of a few, like Dershowitz, Bill Clinton, Prince Albert, Lex Wexner and Donald Trump

TRUMP!!! 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Not me. I say out them all. But for now we all know of a few, like Dershowitz, Bill Clinton, Prince Albert, Lex Wexner and Donald Trump

Trump went to the Island? 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump went to the Island? 

Like it only happened on the island

[edjr 6,580]

Wait a minute.  One thing I learned from the this thread.

Worms is MDC?  

[seafoam1 2,940]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Like it only happened on the island

You liberals are so focking whiny. 

[Reality 3,121]

What a massive embarrassment this thread has been for liberals. My goodness...

 

[seafoam1 2,940]

Liberals are so stupid. Who focking cares about liberal universities and stupid liberal teachers? 

If you want to make a good living and avoid all the political liberal bullcrap, then just go to trade schools and out earn the flaky liberal bltches. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,811]

8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump went to the Island? 

Many people have said Biden was so creepy that Epstein could not trust him around the trafficked kids so they made him stay in Delaware. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,811]

9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I think you're the one who needs education

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-victim-was-grilled-about-alan-dershowitzs-bleeding--said-she-was-forced-into-threesome

Boyo using Daily Beast is so on brand.  I love this for you.  
 

SAD!!!

[BuckSwope 654]

11 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

It moved

 

In all seriousness, I was surprised to hear that those were the words of an illustrated children’s book for small children.

So I looked it up and, turns out, that’s not quite true.

It is from a novel intended for teenagers. Yes it is a graphic novel. But this would not be in elementary school libraries so I believe it is misleading.

In addition it apparently has been pulled from several schools. https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/senate-book-ban-hearing-gets-nsfw-with-sexually-graphic-reading/amp/

I remember in the 90s when there was a huge national kerfuffle over some book where a kid had two dads. It was obviously bullsh1t. So I’m pretty skeptical of this stuff now.

Librarians should be responsible about what they’re putting in school libraries, but I also know these conservatives are 100% not above lying or blowing things way out of any rational sense of proportion, to score political points and get their dumbass base riled up.

That concludes my thoughts on “porn in schools.” HTH

 This is pretty much where I am.   I can't think of a rational person I know who would have an issue with something like Gender Queer not being available in a school library. It's a clear cut as you can get, IMO.   Where the conversation starts to derail is that as with the bolded, often (at least for me) there is a huge falsehood with the story when I read it or see people talking about.  For example "it's being taught in schools" when it was a book in a library, and never suggested or taught in a classroom.   It's framed as being in a younger school, but it was actually a High School.  Things like that.     

I usually have a question for each side of the debate that never seems to get answered.    For the right:  if it's JUST about sexuality in materials, why is it that when I look at the list of books being pulled and flagged is it 90% LGBTQ materials?   We can't deny there is a reason people wonder if you are anti-lgbtq if it is so one sided.   For the left:  WTF do most of the lgbtq materials on the lists come in the form of graphic novels and/or feature a heavy focus on sex and offensive pics?   I am open to materials of a variety being available to check out in schools, but some common sense must apply and I've seen too many examples of graphic novels where they aren't appropriate for the age being discussed.  

[RLLD 4,201]

16 hours ago, MDC said:

I see, what I actually said matters less than your feelings.  

You go sport, tell us your truth 

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

So, did the president get cancelled for sticking up for free speech? 

[RLLD 4,201]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

So, did the president get cancelled for sticking up for free speech? 

It appears as though she resigned, likely from pressure due to her lack of opposing genocide.

[Nomad99 726]

8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

So, did the president get cancelled for sticking up for free speech? 

No.....she got canceled for aiding & condoning extreme violence against a particular population. 

[Nomad99 726]

We need more people like this.

 

 

[MDC 7,300]

47 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You go sport, tell us your truth 

I checked the receipts. You’d rather go by intuition, like a woman.  

[RLLD 4,201]

Just now, MDC said:

I checked the receipts. You’d rather go by intuition, like a woman.  

Wow....mysogyny today, you are more diverse than I thought, well done sport....

[Cdub100 3,894]

13 hours ago, Reality said:

What an incredible embarrassment this has turned into for the local liberals. It's not too late, apologize, admit your stupidity and move on.

That's right. Get on your knees and suck that jew d1ck. Admit that jews are never to be criticized in any way. Not by anybody including black trans lezbo women. Nobody is safe from the wrath of the jew.

[MDC 7,300]

13 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Wow....mysogyny today, you are more diverse than I thought, well done sport....

This guy.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

38 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

So, did the president get cancelled for sticking up for free speech? 

Yes.  All the MAGAs at Penn got her. 

[RLLD 4,201]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

This guy.  

You did NOT ask me my pronouns and have thus committed violence against me 

[RLLD 4,201]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes.  All the MAGAs at Penn got her. 

Surely. Penn is MAGA country.   I mean, its not like she could not answer the simplest of questions.

[BuckSwope 654]

Love all the righties now slow clapping to the cancel culture.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

So a hyper liberal gets canned by other hyper liberals and it’s conservatives fault. Got it.  Think about it.  If they didn’t , MAGA would have launched another boycott like Bud Light. Penn donations from MAGA would dry up. 

[RLLD 4,201]

39 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Love all the righties now slow clapping to the cancel culture.  

Unfortunately, that wont work, I already opposed their removal of course. But I also understand why those on the right would celebrate it being done back to liberals.....

[Hardcore troubadour 15,285]

47 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Love all the righties now slow clapping to the cancel culture.  

So you think she should have been kept on? 

[Cdub100 3,894]

54 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Love all the righties now slow clapping to the cancel culture.  

Yup too stupid to know they are cutting their own throat.

[Engorgeous George 2,291]

The marketplace of ideas is a savage and brutal land.  The weak, the sensitive do not do well in that gladitorial pit.  Universities once welcomed the exchange of ideas.  They wanted ideas to stand scrutiny in the full light of day. They wanted some to be nourished and others to wither under the noon day sun of scrutiny.   Then universities decided to indoctrinate as opposed to educate.  They came up with speech codes.  They chose to go beyond banning and punishing that very limited class of prohibited speech which was exhortations of immediate violence.  They also tried to blur the very definitions of "immediate" and "violence".  They blurred all parameters and now they are paying a long overdue price.  The monster they birthed has now turned on its creator.

Universities now, essentially, insist on loyalty oaths to the orthodoxy to become accredited by them.  How sad.

[jerryskids 6,737]

I wonder if Kornbluth is on the block.  She only started in January this past year, which could be good or bad.  I'm confident they suck hard on the Arab oil money teet, as they have admitted with China and Russia in the past.  But there are also donors like Stephen Schwarzman (Blackstone founder), who gave $350M to form the MIT college of computing.  His politics are conservative and his name sounds sorta... ethnic.

Also that Dershowitz article that @Strikelinked earlier nailed the problem, at MIT anyway:  DEI has taken over like a parasite.  I sense that Kornbluth has relied too much on counsel from Melissa Nobles, the MIT Chancellor who comes from a Humanities background, as you'd expect for a tech-focused institution.    Her areas of study include:

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Nobles’ teaching includes graduate courses in transitional justice, ethnic politics, and nationalism as well as undergraduate courses in comparative politics, Latin American studies, ethnic conflict in world politics, and social movements in comparative perspective.

Her international, comparative research focuses on restorative justice in light of ethnic and racial conflicts.

This is the woman spearheading the effort to address antisemitism on campus (and Islamophobia, of course!).