Was the 2020 election stolen?

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

We’ve had plenty of Democrats who have whined that they were cheated. Not only Hillary, but Al Gore. In 2004 John Kerry complained about Ohio. And in Georgia Stacey Abrams was a huge whiner and even threatened a lawsuit before she finally conceded. 
But Abrams finally DID concede. And that’s what separates Trump, and makes him uniquely awful. He has helped to tear this nation apart because of his inability to admit he lost. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well, then you’re asking us to forget the Russia hoax, that Hillary funded.  If she were really being magnanimous, she would have shut that down, seeing as it was garbage. Instead she watched the nation get sidetracked by it, and she lead the charge. You can’t claim she had class and then watch her run around calling him illegitimate. 

I’m not asking you to forget anything. If you want to criticize Hillary for her statements or actions go right ahead. But she did concede and it makes all the difference. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not asking you to forget anything. If you want to criticize Hillary for her statements or actions go right ahead. But she did concede and it makes all the difference. 

Trump conceded. Then he has done just what Hillary has. I don’t see the big difference post  Biden taking over.  

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

Also let’s not have this constant revisionism about Russia. Robert Muller was appointed, not because of anything Hilary did or said or funded, but because Trump abruptly fired James Comey, lied initially about his reason for doing so, and this led to Trump’s attorney general appointing an independent prosecutor to investigate. Muller did not find direct evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia (which didn’t mean it didn’t exist) but DID find multiple instances of Trump committing obstruction of justice for which he should have been impeached, removed from office, and prosecuted for. So I don’t think any reasonable person would ever refer to this as a “hoax”. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump conceded.  

Link? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link? 

He conceded on Jan 7, 2021. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He conceded on Jan 7, 2021. 

He acknowledged a transfer of power after being forced to do so. If you can’t see the difference between this and Hillary calling Trump on election night and congratulating him then we’re at an impasse. I have nothing further to add. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He acknowledged a transfer of power after being forced to do so. If you can’t see the difference between this and Hillary calling Trump on election night and congratulating him then we’re at an impasse. I have nothing further to add. 

Ok. But he conceded. 

[Ron_Artest 1,217]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He conceded on Jan 7, 2021. 

After the insurrection failed.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

These folks who bring up Hillary somehow always forget that she called up Trump, conceded the election and congratulated him ON ELECTION NIGHT 2016! Which is what classy people do even if they don’t like the results. 
 

If Trump had conceded the election in 2020 once the results were in I honestly wouldn’t have cared what he said later on. 

[weepaws 3,159]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’ve had plenty of Democrats who have whined that they were cheated. Not only Hillary, but Al Gore. In 2004 John Kerry complained about Ohio. And in Georgia Stacey Abrams was a huge whiner and even threatened a lawsuit before she finally conceded. 
But Abrams finally DID concede. And that’s what separates Trump, and makes him uniquely awful. He has helped to tear this nation apart because of his inability to admit he lost. 

The government has a plan, it’s to tear this nation apart. Divide and Concur, many of the issues that have already divided most people started with the government,  trust in the Lord, not in man.  

[jonmx 2,425]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Also let’s not have this constant revisionism about Russia. Robert Muller was appointed, not because of anything Hilary did or said or funded, but because Trump abruptly fired James Comey, lied initially about his reason for doing so, and this led to Trump’s attorney general appointing an independent prosecutor to investigate. Muller did not find direct evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia (which didn’t mean it didn’t exist) but DID find multiple instances of Trump committing obstruction of justice for which he should have been impeached, removed from office, and prosecuted for. So I don’t think any reasonable person would ever refer to this as a “hoax”. 

LOL...impeach over obstruction.  I asked you specifically if all they have in Trump is obstruction should they impeach, and you said no.   Every president ever investigated gets accused of obstruction.   It is kind of like the crooked cop who can't find anything you did wrong, will resort to resisting arrest charge to bring you in. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

After the insurrection failed.

There was no insurrection.  He did it after he realized he focked up. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

LOL...impeach over obstruction.  I asked you specifically if all they have in Trump is obstruction should they impeach, and you said no.   Every president ever investigated gets accused of obstruction.   It is kind of like the crooked cop who can't find anything you did wrong, will resort to resisting arrest charge to bring you in. 

You can’t just charge resisting. There has to be an underlying charge. 

[WhiteWonder 2,705]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

These folks who bring up Hillary somehow always forget that she called up Trump, conceded the election and congratulated him ON ELECTION NIGHT 2016! Which is what classy people do even if they don’t like the results. 
 

If Trump had conceded the election in 2020 once the results were in I honestly wouldn’t have cared what he said later on. 

Ah yes, Hillary Clinton. The epitome of class 

Don't confuse polished politician with class. No one should be suggesting that Trump is a polished politician. He's not. That is the main difference between him and 90% of other politicians. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

It was stolen and here’s how 

democrats have a major advantage in ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting is not legal in all states. So different states have different voting rules. Which I admit I am adamantly a states rights guy on everything. However for a federal election I think there should be uniform voting 

[5-Points 3,434]

Way too many shenanigans to claim everything was on the up-and-up. 

[edjr 6,579]

you sorry herbs that think your vote matters. what a waste of time. stop

[Raven Fan 362]

Astounding to me that anyone thinks the current sitting president was so impotent that he let the election get "stolen" out from under him.

And if he was too impotent to do anything about it, what makes you cultist think he won't let it get "stolen" again?

Love this for you. 
 

[Reality 3,121]

Democrats summed up perfectly.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

Anyone ever track down those Macedonian troll farms? Lol. Macedonia! 

[MDC 7,223]

“A few weeks” lol. 

[Voltaire 5,276]

Between the water pipe break in Atlanta and ballots counted without observers, combined with the election overserves barred from observing in Detroit and Philadelphia, as well as the presence of containers of mysterious origin, the Democrats appeared to have provided themselves the means and opportunity to rig it.

So, I voted yes because counting votes without observers able to do their job is shady.

[MDC 7,223]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Between the water pipe break in Atlanta and ballots counted without observers, combined with the election overserves barred from observing in Detroit and Philadelphia, as well as the presence of containers of mysterious origin, the Democrats appeared to have provided themselves the means and opportunity to rig it.

So, I voted yes because counting votes without observers able to do their job is shady.

Election overseers weren’t barred from observing in Philadelphia.

You’re a smart guy. Why do you repeat the  lies of a man with a 40+ year record of business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault?  

[Voltaire 5,276]

10 hours ago, MDC said:

Election overseers weren’t barred from observing in Philadelphia.

You’re a smart guy. Why do you repeat the  lies of a man with a 40+ year record of business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault?  

Maybe because I saw footage of the process and the bars physically blocking the observers during live testimony election night.

[Reality 3,121]

24 minutes of Democrats having absolutely zero self-awareness. Just like the dumb dumbs on the left here. 

 

[MDC 7,223]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Maybe because I saw footage of the process and the bars physically blocking the observers during live testimony election night.

What’s more likely:

1. The entire justice system including many Republicans and some of his own appointees were aligned against Trump?

2. A man with a 40-year record of stiffing contractors, business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault is in fact a POS?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

What’s more likely:

1. The entire justice system including many Republicans and some of his own appointees were aligned against Trump?

2. A man with a 40-year record of stiffing contractors, business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault is in fact a POS?

 

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[Voltaire 5,276]

11 hours ago, MDC said:

What’s more likely:

1. The entire justice system including many Republicans and some of his own appointees were aligned against Trump?

2. A man with a 40-year record of stiffing contractors, business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault is in fact a POS?

 

I know you don't care because your candidate(s) won and the media constantly reassures you that nothing transpired but that's not the experience of observers who were in those big cities that day and physically barred from observing with COVID as the excuse du jour.

[MDC 7,223]

Just now, Voltaire said:

I know you don't care because your candidate(s) won and the media constantly reassures you that nothing transpired but that's not the experience of people who were in those big cities that day and physically barred from observing with COVID as the excuse du jour.

So they say. And then it goes to court and the career whiner who telegraphed his intention to cry fraud for a year can’t produce any credible evidence these things happen. 

How many more failed lawsuits do you need?

[Raven Fan 362]

11 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Maybe because I saw footage of the process and the bars physically blocking the observers during live testimony election night.

So only the dems observers were allowed to stay?  The R observers just rolled over and left when asked?

[Voltaire 5,276]

11 hours ago, MDC said:

So they say. And then it goes to court and the career whiner who telegraphed his intention to cry fraud for a year can’t produce any credible evidence these things happen. 

How many more failed lawsuits do you need?

The courts have different standards. This person voted in two jurisdictions, this address doesn't exist, this person has been dead for 20 years... ,its all nickle-and-dime and you get to 28 dubious ballots and you don't know who those 28 ballots were cast for and 28 ballots may sway a local town council seat.

You'd need thousands of bad ballots to get systemically mixed in with good, and what we learned from Arizona singularly, where they were actually examined, was that there was no way to tell the difference once they got processed. Between the election observers barred from observing and video footage of dubious containers that may have held illegal ballots being present on site, as well as suspicious activity involving absentee ballot dropoff locations, there's plenty to worry about. At least one ballot harvester in Minnesota was caught on camera.

I'm not at all convinced its all bullsh*t and reassurances from the media and Democrats doesn't mean anything, especially considering during that same presidential election cycle we watched the Democrats rig their own Iowa caucuses.

At least your link does reference the boards being put up to block election observers in Detroit. Seeing those boards put up in Detroit (online - I wasn't there) was a gut punch. Video footage exists of containers being wheeled into whatever-the-fock they call Cobo Hall nowadays and a massive avalanche of Biden votes without observers.  I became disillusioned and personally lost all faith in the integrity of the election process in state of Michigan. Then Democrats there took over all of state government in the next election and blocked/shredded all means of election integrity reform.

[OldMaid 2,130]

The guy Trump’s campaign hired and paid $750,000.00 to find all this fraud, even debunks this nonsense.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-voter-fraud-claims-debunked-ken-block-1857102

 

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

Election overseers weren’t barred from observing in Philadelphia.

You’re a smart guy. Why do you repeat the  lies of a man with a 40+ year record of business fraud, infidelity and sexual assault?  

Is he though?

Maybe he once was, until he fell under the thrall of a cult leader

[zsasz 366]

17 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

It was stolen and here’s how 

democrats have a major advantage in ballot harvesting. Ballot harvesting is not legal in all states. So different states have different voting rules. Which I admit I am adamantly a states rights guy on everything. However for a federal election I think there should be uniform voting 

So you're for States Rights when you think it benefits you....but not for it when you think it doesn't benefit you.  WELL, WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, COMRADE!

[seafoam1 2,859]

1 minute ago, zsasz said:

So you're for States Rights when you think it benefits you....but not for it when you think it doesn't benefit you.  WELL, WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, COMRADE!

ghey. 

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I know you don't care because your candidate(s) won and the media constantly reassures you that nothing transpired but that's not the experience of observers who were in those big cities that day and physically barred from observing with COVID as the excuse du jour.

There were over 7000 sworn affidavits in Michigan alone.

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

2 minutes ago, zsasz said:

So you're for States Rights when you think it benefits you....but not for it when you think it doesn't benefit you.  WELL, WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, COMRADE!

No but there is a process to change election rules at the state level and it is directed from the legislature not the leftist court which is why a lot of them were overturned on appeal. You should repeat 7 grade civics. 

[thegeneral 3,065]

3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

I know you don't care because your candidate(s) won and the media constantly reassures you that nothing transpired but that's not the experience of observers who were in those big cities that day and physically barred from observing with COVID as the excuse du jour.

There were over 7000 sworn affidavits in Michigan alone

Michigan had hundreds of audits of this election.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,122]

No matter how you slice it, the end result is 81 million votes. What a joke. You gotta be a complete moron to believe that.