Welp, Trump has no chance of winning now

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

I think Trump won't get elected cause his attorney just said in Federal court that the president has the right to order Seal Team 6 to kill political opponents. He's given Joe the green light to...well, you know.  

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump lies all the time and it's well documented.  What you're describing is that Trump doesn't know when or how to shut up and he thinks his bluntness and brashness is an asset when it's not, unless you're in the cult then you love it.

I wish it were true that he lied anywhere near as much as a normal politician, or that his lies were even worth mention.  Sadly, he answers questions without any filter...and the media is keen to seize on that, and has done so.

He certainly lies.  Everyone does.  He is just less skilled with it. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I wish it were true that he lied anywhere near as much as a normal politician, or that his lies were even worth mention.  Sadly, he answers questions without any filter...and the media is keen to seize on that, and has done so.

He certainly lies.  Everyone does.  He is just less skilled with it. 

The Washington Post track 30k in just his 4 years as President.  Yes all Presidents lies, but to say Trump doesn't lie anywhere near other politicians so just so ridiculous you can't possibly believe that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

The Washington Post track 30k in just his 4 years as President.  Yes all Presidents lies, but to say Trump doesn't lie anywhere near other politicians so just so ridiculous you can't possibly believe that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

Did they also track the lies of anyone else?  Or....might it be true that they seem to be selling a narrative?  I would be VERY careful when it comes to media and their reporting around Trump.   They vilify him while giving leeway to others, who's lies are actually destructive to people.   Media does us no favors in political coverage. We have to be more discerning.  

The media lies as much as any politician.

[weepaws 3,194]

And all politicians lie as much as the government controlled media.   

[BuckSwope 654]

48 minutes ago, RLLD said:

He is too forthright, maybe "honest" is not the right term.  His issue is that his life experience makes him take this "fock you and the horse you rode in on" stance.    He lacks political savvy.   A good politician knows when and how to lie.  If he has any intention of lying, he sucks at it.

Honest for sure wasn't the correct term.   He has no filter, and says what comes to mind, that is different 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Honest for sure wasn't the correct term.   He has no filter, and says what comes to mind, that is different 

Right.  He speaks without filter.....because...well....."fock you"...right?

Its a problem for him.  Vivek, on the other hand, is a skilled man....when media tries to use their standard tactics to impugn him for being conservative, he is a focking ninja......

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

53 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I think Trump won't get elected cause his attorney just said in Federal court that the president has the right to order Seal Team 6 to kill political opponents. He's given Joe the green light to...well, you know.  

Constitutionally speaking he is correct. He would then be impeached and tried 

[BrahmaBulls 765]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Don is next level. One of the funniest parts is his fanboys racing into to explain how it is actually all true.

You're as bad a Squis and Schochet..  Have a little bit of pride in yourself and stop being such a ##### troll all the time.

[jerryskids 6,799]

45 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

The Washington Post track 30k in just his 4 years as President.  Yes all Presidents lies, but to say Trump doesn't lie anywhere near other politicians so just so ridiculous you can't possibly believe that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11

Thanks for posting this; I was going to ask for examples of his lies, because I think we have different definition of "lie".  I randomly selected a topic in your link, "cost of immigration."  Here is what it said:

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President Trump at various times has estimated that illegal immigration annually costs the United States $100 billion, $200 billion, even $275 billion. Trump appears to be relying on a partisan study that came up with an estimate of $135 billion, but has been criticized for its methodology, which critics say overstates costs and understates benefits. Other analysts say the cost of illegal immigration is much lower, if anything – and over time may even result in the net gain for the United States. Over 75 years, each immigrant represents $259,000 in net present value for federal, state and local governments, according to a 2016 report by National Academies on the economic impact of the U.S. immigration system.

Is that a "lie?"  Seems more to me like a disagreement on the source data.  

I'm not saying that Trump doesn't lie, but I think a large number are things that he thinks are correct.  Even if they are not correct, I don't personally consider that a lie, because IMO a lie requires intent.  The election being stolen is probably the most obvious example.

The Left's position on Trump's lies reminds me of a parent who tells their kid they will stop for ice cream after the ballgame.  But the game runs late and you don't have time to stop.  Kid:  "you LIED$#@!"  Well, no, it wasn't a lie.  It just didn't turn out like we planned.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

So Trump and Biden are both unskilled liars. Let’s call it a draw.  Now about policy……

[thegeneral 3,214]

6 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

You're as bad a Squis and Schochet..  Have a little bit of pride in yourself and stop being such a ##### troll all the time.

Thanks for the advice, amigo. You seem well balanced and reasonable!

[seafoam1 3,031]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Dems planning their commercials now using this video

Because they know all their dumbass voters will follow their every message. Like programmed liberal robots. 

[cyclone24 1,913]

Oh no you mean he’s going to lose the baby killer vote that he wasn’t going to get anyway? 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Constitutionally speaking he is correct. He would then be impeached and tried 

No he is not, and you will find that confirmed when this court and SCOTUS both say no, that's not how the Constitution works. 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

Just now, cyclone24 said:

Oh no you mean he’s going to lose the baby killer vote that he wasn’t going to get anyway? 

No, he's going to lose the hard core pro-life people who want all abortion stopped with his "concessions" and "negotiating" the issue.  

[The Psychic Observer 498]

22 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm not saying that Trump doesn't lie, but I think a large number are things that he thinks are correct.  Even if they are not correct, I don't personally consider that a lie, because IMO a lie requires intent.

So if Trump thinks the Earth is flat and goes around telling everyone the Earth is flat, he's not lying?

And you wonder why someone would call you a MAGAtard.

[gas 157]

2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Yes.  Sending the abortion issue to the states is much worse than Bidenflation, WWIII, terrorists and cartels seizing our border, being forced to give up gas stoves/cars/appliances, facing violent transgender assassin squads, unaffordable housing, ending US sovereignty…

lolz you MAGAts are such a bunch of hysterical Nancys.

[MDC 7,431]

7 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

So if Trump thinks the Earth is flat and goes around telling everyone the Earth is flat, he's not lying?

Jerry has a point. Trump is a delusional nutter. He probably believes a lot of his own malarkey. 

[Horseman 2,458]

42 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

You're as bad a Squis and Schochet..  Have a little bit of pride in yourself and stop being such a ##### troll all the time.

It's like he is desperately trying to fit in with the retard club.

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

I think Trump is aware that this issue is not going to help him win the election. He can’t help bragging about it though. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Jerry has a point. Trump is a delusional nutter. He probably believes a lot of his own malarkey. 

It's a ridiculous defense.  Applied broadly no person can ever lie as long as they believe what they are saying at the moment, and there is no way to prove or disprove what someone believes.  Come on.

[weepaws 3,194]

Disagree, I think the whole group believe their own bs that they speak, it’s all about winning votes 

[Horseman 2,458]

3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

It's a ridiculous defense.  Applied broadly no person can ever lie as long as they believe what they are saying at the moment, and there is no way to prove or disprove what someone believes.  Come on.

Um, no.

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The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. § 1001 requires that the false statement, concealment or cover up be "knowingly and willfully" done, which means that "The statement must have been made with an intent to deceive, a design to induce belief in the falsity or to mislead, but § 1001 does not require an intent to defraud -- that is, the intent to deprive someone of something by means of deceit." United States v. Lichenstein, 610 F.2d 1272, 1276-77 (5th Cir.)

And it is provable.  

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The government may prove that a false statement was made "knowingly and willfully" by offering evidence that defendants acted deliberately and with knowledge that the representation was false. See United States v. Hopkins, 916 F.2d 207, 214 (5th Cir. 1990)

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

5 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Disagree, I think the whole group believe their own bs that they speak, it’s all about winning votes 

So who you voting for Swaggart? Even the king of trolls MDC will say who he votes for.  If you’re just going to tell us both sides suck, message received. Thanks for pointing it out 150x.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

30 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

No he is not, and you will find that confirmed when this court and SCOTUS both say no, that's not how the Constitution works. 

so you think its ok for any state to just press charges against a President?

 

since this is all based on hypothetical BS, what if a political opponent decided to stage a treasonous act and the result ended in a death/capture?

[jerryskids 6,799]

28 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

So if Trump thinks the Earth is flat and goes around telling everyone the Earth is flat, he's not lying?

And you wonder why someone would call you a MAGAtard.

Correct, he is not lying.

Connecting the definition of lying to being a MAGAtard is DEFCON1 level idiocy.  Congrats on that.

Oh, and sorry you didn't get that ice cream after the game, big fella.  It'll be alright.   

[Nomad99 744]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

There are a block of voters who abortion is the number one issue.

And that's the problem. Abortion shouldn't be considered one of the top 3 major issues this country faces right now......but yeah that's the thought process. Issues need to be prioritized but when you can't see the woods through the trees.......

[TimHauck 2,877]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I'm not sure why you think this is a primary issue.  General election, yes, and that's my fear.  '22 elections were decided by young white single women (read: lefties) who rallied in droves to vote against abortion bans.

To other comments:  it's not about changing the vote, it's about rallying people to actually vote.  Biden elicits virtually zero enthusiasm.  If Trump would just shut his mouth he'd probably walk away with the election.  But that will never happen.  A large reason Trump does all of this is to listen to himself give the best speeches, the most beautiful speeches.  

The Left will, smartly, play up this issue bigly as the year progresses.

I’m not saying it’s a primary issue.  I’m saying hopefully someone else wins the primary because now he has no chance to win the general, which it seems like you agree with.

But, this issue would likely doom Desantis as well.

[jonmx 2,429]

54 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

No he is not, and you will find that confirmed when this court and SCOTUS both say no, that's not how the Constitution works. 

 

We already give foreign diplomats immunity.   The rationale as to why a president needs to be immune to prosecution from any local, state or even federal agency is actually much stronger.   Any local nimrod could arrest the president and endanger the entire US to things like a nuclear strike at the extreme.  

[jonmx 2,429]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Correct, he is not lying.

Connecting the definition of lying to being a MAGAtard is DEFCON1 level idiocy.  Congrats on that.

Oh, and sorry you didn't get that ice cream after the game, big fella.  It'll be alright.   

Absolutely, understanding the actual meaning of words is retarded to leftists.   Leftist rely on the media for their Minestry of Truth. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Dems planning their commercials now using this video

Yeah. Let’s do commercials. Show Mayorkas saying the border is secure. Show the border. Show Mayorkas saying the border is secure. Show the border. Show Mayorkas saying the border is secure ………

[thegeneral 3,214]

38 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It's like he is desperately trying to fit in with the retard club.

You guys busy stroking each other never gets old. Lotion up, Roger!

[Horseman 2,458]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You guys busy stroking each other never gets old. Lotion up, Roger!

Exhibit A.

Saying how dumb and childlike your posts are isn't stroking anything.  It's saying you're dumb.

[thegeneral 3,214]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Exhibit A.

Saying how dumb and childlike your posts are isn't stroking anything.  It's saying you're dumb.

Oh no. Roger thinks I’m dumb!

[thegeneral 3,214]

40 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

And that's the problem. Abortion shouldn't be considered one of the top 3 major issues this country faces right now......but yeah that's the thought process. Issues need to be prioritized but when you can't see the woods through the trees.......

I mean everyone’s votes count the same. That’s why I vote 23 times in PA and GA. 

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Hopefully someone else wins the primary.

 

Ayyyy what's up metal helmet guy

[BuckSwope 654]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Right.  He speaks without filter.....because...well....."fock you"...right?

Its a problem for him.  Vivek, on the other hand, is a skilled man....when media tries to use their standard tactics to impugn him for being conservative, he is a focking ninja......

100% there is a bit of this, but also there is a healthy dose of wanting to have his name on everything and be constantly praised.   I think this impulse is what we are seeing here.   A smarter politician would just be able to STFU, realizing that this is an issue that will get people out to vote against him.   Sleepy Joe is DOA in 2024, Trump just needs to stay out of jail and his own way.   It seems he is incapable of that 2nd one.  

[weepaws 3,194]

51 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So who you voting for Swaggart? Even the king of trolls MDC will say who he votes for.  If you’re just going to tell us both sides suck, message received. Thanks for pointing it out 150x.  

Don’t they? How can one pick a winner, both sides want the same thing, death to America, just going about it a different way, it’s how they confuse the simple minded like you. 

Right now I don’t see a Winner for America and for the future for my grandchildren.  

My vote today would be for the Lord, he’s the only righteous person I know. How about you catholic boy? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

There are a block of voters who abortion is the number one issue.

And they're called ... WOMEN!