New Iowa caucus poll

[iam90sbaby 2,490]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Haley is more a Bush/Cheney/Ryan/McConnell Republican. She won't be the nominee but if she were, I'd give Robert Kennedy a closer look. 

They suck but still better any candidate the Ds have rolled out. Hindsight 20/20 you should be able to admit Bush was the better choice than Gore. It'll be a good day when the last Kennedy dies.

[thegeneral 2,913]

2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

They suck but still better any candidate the Ds have rolled out. Hindsight 20/20 you should be able to admit Bush was the better choice than Gore. It'll be a good day when the last Kennedy dies.

Huge red X here.

Bush for Iraq fiasco alone was a disaster. Gore would not have gone in there.

[Voltaire 5,202]

13 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

They suck but still better any candidate the Ds have rolled out. Hindsight 20/20 you should be able to admit Bush was the better choice than Gore. It'll be a good day when the last Kennedy dies.

Ugh.

But true enough.

Yeah. I'd never thought I'd see the day but I'd be more inclined to vote for Bush over Gore in 2024. I don't pay attention to the man, but there's a good chance he joined all the other Democrats down the sh*thole that has become the modern Democratic Party.

Borrowing money to get US servicemembers pointlessly killed overseas policing an Islamic where nobody wants us is less odorous than woke. you can bury your dead and move on. Woke is civilizational cancer. It's basically turning your back on every single thing good your ancestors believed in, built, and died for, blowing kisses to everybody that hates them, then drowning yourself in a huge vat of sh*t.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

32 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Oh absolutely, women are terrible leaders, managers, and basically any other position of power. At least in any performance based position.  What is 2024 the year we pretend sh!t isn't true that is true or something?

2024 is well after most of us agreed that misogyny is a bad thing.

But I do know you right wing incels are still fighting it

[iam90sbaby 2,490]

24 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

2024 is well after most of us agreed that misogyny is a bad thing.

But I do know you right wing incels are still fighting it

Whatever you say buddy 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

33 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

2024 is well after most of us agreed that misogyny is a bad thing.

But I do know you right wing incels are still fighting it

I don't think you know what the term misogyny means.

[thegeneral 2,913]

51 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Ugh.

But true enough.

Yeah. I'd never thought I'd see the day but I'd be more inclined to vote for Bush over Gore in 2024. I don't pay attention to the man, but there's a good chance he joined all the other Democrats down the sh*thole that has become the modern Democratic Party.

Borrowing money to get US servicemembers pointlessly killed overseas policing an Islamic where nobody wants us is less odorous than woke. you can bury your dead and move on. Woke is civilizational cancer. It's basically turning your back on every single thing good your ancestors believed in, built, and died for, blowing kisses to everybody that hates them, then drowning yourself in a huge vat of sh*t.

Bush attacked the wrong country and got us involved in a 20 year war in the ME for his daddy’s approval. I’d say that takes the cake over pronoun usage.

[HellToupee 1,588]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Haley is more a Bush/Cheney/Ryan/McConnell Republican. She won't be the nominee but if she were, I'd give Robert Kennedy a closer look. 

For least damage to the country right now I’d vote RFk/Biden/Haley

 

my worst case scenario is Haley getting the R nomination 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Polls are crap.  Vivek is going to shock.  Desantis will be out after Iowa, he’s nowhere near the candidate we thought he’d be.  

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

2 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

Polls are crap.  Vivek is going to shock.  Desantis will be out after Iowa, he’s nowhere near the candidate we thought he’d be.  

Umm your boy Trump doesn’t want Vivek to shock. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Umm your boy Trump doesn’t want Vivek to shock. 

"Ummm...duhhh...."

The best a liberal has to offer. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I don't think you know what the term misogyny means.

It means you’re a right wing incel that hates women because they’d never fock you, even if you actually had the courage to try  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

It means you’re a right wing incel that hates women because they’d never fock you, even if you actually had the courage to try  

Nope. Wrong again as usual.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

The fat old orange pedophile lover gets it:

 

Des Moines, IowaCNN — 

The storied history of the Iowa caucuses has never seen anything like this.

A fateful election year likely to put the country’s institutions to an extreme test opens Monday as the first-in-the-nation state shivers under a blast of perishing polar weather.

But it’s not stopping Donald Trump from telling his voters to go out and caucus even if they’re “sick as a dog” – “Even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it,” he said Sunday, darkly suggesting people who were critically ill should get out to caucus – while urging them to punish enemies he branded “cheaters” and “liars.” The former president, who left office in disgrace in January 2021, is seeking a bumper win to set him on the road to a third straight GOP nomination — and a possible return to the White House.

[Voltaire 5,202]

CNN cannot grasp how infinitely better Trump was at presidenting, let alone his facetious humor. 

Take care Iowa. Across the country, take care Bills fans as well.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

Most of Haley’s support comes from independents. So even if she does well in Iowa or New Hampshire, even if somehow she wins New Hampshire, it’s impossible to see how she goes anywhere from there. Most of the other states, starting with South Carolina, only allow registered Republicans to vote. And they’re heavily for Trump. 
 

The media wants a contest, because they want ratings (always their primary motivation.) But it really isn’t one. Trump will be the nominee, that’s it. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Most of Haley’s support comes from independents. So even if she does well in Iowa or New Hampshire, even if somehow she wins New Hampshire, it’s impossible to see how she goes anywhere from there. Most of the other states, starting with South Carolina, only allow registered Republicans to vote. And they’re heavily for Trump. 
 

The media wants a contest, because they want ratings (always their primary motivation.) But it really isn’t one. Trump will be the nominee, that’s it. 

You are probably correct but I think you’ve got a blind spot as well. Imagine it quickly becomes a two person race. Hayley has momentum from a strong second place finish in Iowa (if that happens), then wins New Hampshire, then it’s on to her home state South Carolina where suddenly she’s neck and neck with Trump.

Not saying it will happen, but there’s a chance.

Hell in 2016 Biden’s campaign was DOA until South Carolina. Of course that’s different since there was not a heavy favorite in the field, but still, things can change on a dime.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

You are probably correct but I think you’ve got a blind spot as well. Imagine it quickly becomes a two person race. Hayley has momentum from a strong second place finish in Iowa (if that happens), then wins New Hampshire, then it’s on to her home state South Carolina where suddenly she’s neck and neck with Trump.

Not saying it will happen, but there’s a chance.

Hell in 2016 Biden’s campaign was DOA until South Carolina. Of course that’s different since there was not a heavy favorite in the field, but still, things can change on a dime.

This is very different. Haley may be from South Carolina, but she is far less popular there than Trump. 

[Voltaire 5,202]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Most of Haley’s support comes from independents. So even if she does well in Iowa or New Hampshire, even if somehow she wins New Hampshire, it’s impossible to see how she goes anywhere from there. Most of the other states, starting with South Carolina, only allow registered Republicans to vote. And they’re heavily for Trump. 
 

The media wants a contest, because they want ratings (always their primary motivation.) But it really isn’t one. Trump will be the nominee, that’s it. 

This is mostly right, although there is something significant and relevant about South Carolina that could help Nikki Haley greatly that you are totally missing.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

39 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

 

Take care Iowa. Across the country, take care Bills fans as well.

The Iowa voters who are willing to brave this weather in order to support our democratic system are heroes to me, regardless of who they vote for. I wish them all well and admire them. 
 

The Bills fans can kiss my ass. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump is the nominee. At this point that’s inevitable IMO. 
 

I don’t agree with @RaiderHaters Revenge’s POV but he represents a whole lot of Americans, particularly conservatives. The Neocon wing of the GOP, where Haley really belongs, is dying or dead. It’s a far more isolationist, nativist party, much more similar to the pre-World War II Republicans. I hate it but it would be stupid to deny it. 
 

Americans are sick and tired of the internationalism that has defined us since the end of World War II. We want to be left alone and the rest of the planet can go hang. There is plenty of good reason for people to feel this way, though personally I think it’s very short sided. 

More posts like this please.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

42 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is very different. Haley may be from South Carolina, but she is far less popular there than Trump. 

She’s polling pretty well in South Carolina. If the others drop out or totally fade away…

[jonmx 2,424]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Most of Haley’s support comes from independents. So even if she does well in Iowa or New Hampshire, even if somehow she wins New Hampshire, it’s impossible to see how she goes anywhere from there. Most of the other states, starting with South Carolina, only allow registered Republicans to vote. And they’re heavily for Trump. 
 

The media wants a contest, because they want ratings (always their primary motivation.) But it really isn’t one. Trump will be the nominee, that’s it. 

You are so fuking naive.  The media cares about power.    The media does not make money on ratings.   They make money by being the voice of the powerful.  Suck up to big government and big corporations and they will get endless ad revenue.   They hope to pressure Trump into putting her on as VP and then they hope to take Trump out.  This is how the bastards your worship do things.   Always creating the mirage that votes matter.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

11 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You are so fuking naive.  The media cares about power.    The media does not make money on ratings.   They make money by being the voice of the powerful.  Suck up to big government and big corporations and they will get endless ad revenue.   They hope to pressure Trump into putting her on as VP and then they hope to take Trump out.  This is how the bastards your worship do things.   Always creating the mirage that votes matter.  

You’ve got to get rid of the tinfoil and look at this through the lens of reality.

The media is interested in the horse race and reporting on it. Because that’s their job and because people are interested. So yeah, it sells papers, but it also promotes democracy by reporting on the process. And that’s a good thing.

As to your conspiracy theory, Trump can pick whatever VP he wants. Now there certainly are a lot of people that hope he picks a rational person who respects our democratic institutions. Because, remember, in a way Mike Pence was all who stood in the way of Trump’s attempt to overthrow the government following his loss in 2020. So yeah, some of us would like to make sure that there’s another person in there who will try to stop any other attempts he might make to destroy democracy, should he end up president again. That’s 100% rational and sane 

[Fnord 2,051]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

The media does not make money on ratings.   They make money by being the voice of the powerful.  Suck up to big government and big corporations and they will get endless ad revenue.

Anyone want to volunteer to tell Jon how FOS he is again? I'm exhausted. 

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

The Media does what it is ordered to do. It ain't a "conspiracy theory".

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

18 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Bush attacked the wrong country and got us involved in a 20 year war in the ME for his daddy’s approval. I’d say that takes the cake over pronoun usage.

What a simpleton. Your friends the neo cons were plotting to go to war in Iraq for years before Bush came along. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

You’ve got to get rid of the tinfoil and look at this through the lens of reality.

The media is interested in the horse race and reporting on it. Because that’s their job and because people are interested. So yeah, it sells papers, but it also promotes democracy by reporting on the process. And that’s a good thing.

As to your conspiracy theory, Trump can pick whatever VP he wants. Now there certainly are a lot of people that hope he picks a rational person who respects our democratic institutions. Because, remember, in a way Mike Pence was all who stood in the way of Trump’s attempt to overthrow the government following his loss in 2020. So yeah, some of us would like to make sure that there’s another person in there who will try to stop any other attempts he might make to destroy democracy, should he end up president again. That’s 100% rational and sane 

This you?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

19 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Huge red X here.

Bush for Iraq fiasco alone was a disaster. Gore would not have gone in there.

And McCain? 

[thegeneral 2,913]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What a simpleton. Your friends the neo cons were plotting to go to war in Iraq for years before Bush came along. 

Al Gore spoke out against attacking Iraq and called it a mistake before we went in there.

People saying they’d sign up for W again over Gore is crazy talk. We know W is a fockup of the highest order.

[thegeneral 2,913]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And McCain? 

What about him?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

22 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

This you?

 

Yep. Global average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees Celsius. They say it’s catastrophic at 2.

It’s called science. Check it out sometime

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

I didn’t really mean that about Bills fans. They’re good people. I just hope they leave unhappy today. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

23 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What about him?

Would he have gone into Iraq? 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Yep. Global average temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees Celsius. They say it’s catastrophic at 2.

It’s called science. Check it out sometime

Weird I was expecting Vegas to be gone by now maybe that was just a conspiracy theory

[thegeneral 2,913]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Would he have gone into Iraq? 

He was all about it and the surge as I recall. Knows enough to admit it was a huge fock up to his credit.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

18 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He was all about it and the surge as I recall. Knows enough to admit it was a huge fock up to his credit.

Ok then.  So Bush pleasing his daddy had nothing to do with it. Any Rino neo con would have. Let this serve as another example that you repeat anything stupid you are told. 

[Fnord 2,051]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Let this serve as another example that you repeat anything stupid you are told. 

 This guy preaches the gospel of Tucker with a fervor most born again zealots would envy. But thanks for your assessment, Twatadour.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,940]

Just now, Fnord said:

 This guy preaches the gospel of Tucker with a fervor most born again zealots would envy. But thanks for your assessment, Twatadour.

Example? One will do. Thanks 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

57 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Al Gore spoke out against attacking Iraq and called it a mistake before we went in there.

People saying they’d sign up for W again over Gore is crazy talk. We know W is a fockup of the highest order.

Gore was establishment as well and Iraq was a foregone conclusion it’s what the MIC wanted. Desert Storm went too quickly and they didn’t get the return they were seeking. 
JFC the guy is still out there spouting globalist propaganda on the daily you don’t think he does what he’s told? We went from OBL to SH over lies and Americans ate it up like Squish at a tacos los cholos. Wake up sheeple.