wiffleball 4,791 Posted March 10, 2024 Man, this is such BS overreach. Wonder how many good doggos died unnecessarily. --------- As of 1 February 2024, it is illegal to own an XL Bully unless the dog is exempted. The deadline for exempting XL Bullies has now passed. We understand how upsetting this is for owners. The law also means that it is illegal for animal charities to rehome an XL Bully. https://www.rspca.org.uk › bsl › xlb... American Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 585 Posted March 10, 2024 If the XL Bully is the Brit name for Pit Bull, then I agree with this ban as the right move. 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,548 Posted March 10, 2024 Good 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,220 Posted March 10, 2024 3 hours ago, MLCKAA said: If the XL Bully is the Brit name for Pit Bull, then I agree with this ban as the right move. I do to. No reason pit bull's should even be a thing, much less allowed anywhere in anyone's homes. The fact that we allow pit bulls, Cane Corso's and other vicious dogs here in America is beyond absurd. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 288 Posted March 10, 2024 6 hours ago, MLCKAA said: If the XL Bully is the Brit name for Pit Bull, then I agree with this ban as the right move. Agreed x infinity. Now we need to implement here, as well - i'd say the average IQ of USA "Pibble" owners barely cracks 60. Fickin' morons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 944 Posted March 10, 2024 Pleasantly surprised by the responses to this point. Someone once said that having a pitbull in the home (especially one with young children or vulnerable adults) is the equivalent of having a gumball machine that holds 1000 gumballs, but 2 of them are laced with cyanide. Jacqueline Durand before, & 7 weeks after a pitfall attack. https://www.imagebam.com/view/MESGH2Q Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted March 10, 2024 It's not the dog, it's the owner. There are plenty of docile pits in the world. 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,791 Posted March 10, 2024 I have never had a negative experience with a bully breed type of dog. It really is about the owner. I find them to be loving, approachable almost to a fault, goofy and docile. Honestly, I'll guarantee you Immigrants to England have caused more death & tragedy. Ban them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,548 Posted March 10, 2024 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: It's not the dog, it's the owner. There are plenty of docile pits in the world. So Pits are the only ones with bad owners? I think black labs and golden retrievers have had some bad owners too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted March 10, 2024 9 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I have never had a negative experience with a bully breed type of dog. It really is about the owner. I find them to be loving, approachable almost to a fault, goofy and docile. Honestly, I'll guarantee you Immigrants to England have caused more death & tragedy. Ban them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted March 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So Pits are the only ones with bad owners? I think black labs and golden retrievers have had some bad owners too. No. Plenty of bad dog owners and bad kid owners in this world. All of them should be punished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,548 Posted March 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, 5-Points said: No. Plenty of bad dog owners and bad kid owners. Ok but Labs and Retrievers aren’t killing people. Maybe biting, but not killing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted March 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok but Labs and Retrievers aren’t killing people. Maybe biting, but not killing. To me, blaming a dog for attacking somebody is sort of like blaming a gun for shooting somebody. The gun, if left alone, wouldn't shoot anybody. The dog, if raised properly, wouldn't attack anybody. I understand that guns and dogs are different. One is inanimate and the other isn't. But both the gun and the dog need outside influence to be dangerous. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,546 Posted March 10, 2024 Well UK wanted to kill all dogs back when Covid started cause they fared you could catch it from them, So... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted March 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok but Labs and Retrievers aren’t killing people. Maybe biting, but not killing. Just like Bidens pos Sheppard. I wonder if he handles the dog like he does young girls and that is why the dog is so angry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 944 Posted March 11, 2024 7 hours ago, 5-Points said: There are plenty of docile pits in the world. That may be true, but the problem begins when one of them goes bad. Whether you choose to blame it on a bad owner, or the breeds DNA, when one of them goes wrong, they don't quit until whatever they're biting/ripping apart stops moving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,951 Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/10/2024 at 5:13 PM, 5-Points said: It's not the dog, it's the owner. There are plenty of docile pits in the world. The dog is a living breathing animal. So yes it can be the dog sometimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 333 Posted March 11, 2024 23 hours ago, 5-Points said: To me, blaming a dog for attacking somebody is sort of like blaming a gun for shooting somebody. The gun, if left alone, wouldn't shoot anybody. The dog, if raised properly, wouldn't attack anybody. I understand that guns and dogs are different. One is inanimate and the other isn't. But both the gun and the dog need outside influence to be dangerous. You people are such a dumb breed. Like dogs are completely infallible. They are incapable of ever doing anything wrong. No mischief. No confusion. No scared reactions. They have always been exposed to every stimuli and will always react predictably. That they are fully controllable as long as they have been trained right. My favorite part of the whole "its the owner" crew is they apparently forget that adopted dogs have a prior owner and they have no idea how that owner raised the dog. They also forget that even dogs purchased from a breeder werent theirs for 8 weeks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,549 Posted March 11, 2024 On 3/10/2024 at 2:13 PM, 5-Points said: It's not the dog, it's the owner. There are plenty of docile pits in the world. Troof. Most of these mooks know nothing about Pitbulls. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,548 Posted March 12, 2024 Baby killed, parents attacked in Woodbridge Township New Jersey yesterday. No breed given. Any guesses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 944 Posted March 12, 2024 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Baby killed, parents attacked in Woodbridge Township New Jersey yesterday. No breed given. Any guesses? Pit Bull That Killed Woodbridge Infant Put Down, Prosecutor Says. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/dog-killed-woodbridge-infant-put-down-prosecutor-says Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,548 Posted March 12, 2024 4 minutes ago, easilyscan said: Pit Bull That Killed Woodbridge Infant Put Down, Prosecutor Says. https://patch.com/new-jersey/woodbridge/dog-killed-woodbridge-infant-put-down-prosecutor-says Sounds like he had good owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted March 12, 2024 13 hours ago, Cdub100 said: The dog is a living breathing animal. So yes it can be the dog sometimes Sure. There are outliers, of course, but for the most part, a pitbull raised in the right environment will grow up to become no more aggressive or ill tempered than a Labrador raised in the same environment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,152 Posted March 12, 2024 Totally raciss move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,951 Posted March 12, 2024 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: Sure. There are outliers, of course, but for the most part, a pitbull raised in the right environment will grow up to become no more aggressive or ill tempered than a Labrador raised in the same environment. Maybe, the problem is those outliers when they do snap cause catastrophic damage. I'm okay with the ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted March 13, 2024 On 3/10/2024 at 4:13 PM, 5-Points said: It's not the dog, it's the owner. There are plenty of docile pits in the world. That explains the problems with Biden’s dog. Biden is a pos! Correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted March 13, 2024 7 hours ago, Bert said: That explains the problems with Biden’s dog. Biden is a pos! Correct? Exactly. Some people shouldn't have dogs. He's a perfect example. Two different dogs with the same issues because the owner is an idiot who shouldn't have dogs. Those same two dogs, with different owners, prolly never bite anybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,648 Posted Wednesday at 05:17 PM On 3/10/2024 at 7:46 AM, MLCKAA said: If the XL Bully is the Brit name for Pit Bull, then I agree with this ban as the right move. This is talk. Pit bulls are not the problems. The owners are the problem. 20 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Ban huskys! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 621 Posted Wednesday at 05:29 PM I've known some good pits. A friend of mine had one so docile that we took it canoeing with us. Dobermans get the same bad rap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,805 Posted Wednesday at 06:51 PM On 3/10/2024 at 6:43 PM, 5-Points said: To me, blaming a dog for attacking somebody is sort of like blaming a gun for shooting somebody. The gun, if left alone, wouldn't shoot anybody. The dog, if raised properly, wouldn't attack anybody. I understand that guns and dogs are different. One is inanimate and the other isn't. But both the gun and the dog need outside influence to be dangerous. I don't disagree with you. I do think a lot of the issue lies with the owners.... that said, the breed itself is also a problem. Using your gun analogy, think of a pitbull as a real gun and a lab as a pellet gun, a dachshund as a nerf gun. all these guns (dogs), if left alone/raised properly, probably wont shoot anybody but their natural instincts and possible owner error can have varying degrees of negative results if the "gun" goes off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,616 Posted Wednesday at 09:27 PM 2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: I don't disagree with you. I do think a lot of the issue lies with the owners.... that said, the breed itself is also a problem. Using your gun analogy, think of a pitbull as a real gun and a lab as a pellet gun, a dachshund as a nerf gun. all these guns (dogs), if left alone/raised properly, probably wont shoot anybody but their natural instincts and possible owner error can have varying degrees of negative results if the "gun" goes off True. When they do go off the reservation, it can be deadly. If you get one as a puppy and don't abuse it, the odds of it snapping and attacking an innocent person are miniscule. But there are exceptions to every rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,648 Posted Thursday at 12:14 PM 14 hours ago, 5-Points said: True. When they do go off the reservation, it can be deadly. If you get one as a puppy and don't abuse it, the odds of it snapping and attacking an innocent person are miniscule. But there are exceptions to every rule. We got a puppy from a shelter for my sons birthday 2 years ago. He was 3 months old when we adopted him. Didn't know what he was. Some sad Boxer, they said he was a "hound mix" Did DNA test, he is 70% Pit, 20% Poodle and 10% Retreiver. He is 71 pounds. I love the dog to death, but he is retarded as peefoam 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,896 Posted Thursday at 01:56 PM On 3/10/2024 at 6:05 PM, wiffleball said: Honestly, I'll guarantee you Immigrants to England have caused more death & tragedy. Ban them. This. England is broken. If anyone wants to see the liberal pathway we are on...look over there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,652 Posted Thursday at 03:17 PM Can’t stand pit bulls and the people that own them. Nothing pisses me off more than when I see some irresponsible jackass letting their child play with one. Just ban them and euthanize. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites