If Trump becomes president...tell us the bad things he will do

[GutterBoy 2,898]

34 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Inform them they have the right to not get pregnant. This isn’t the Middle East. Then show them how birth control works.  

Tardcore thinks abortion is all about inconvenience.  Forget assault, accidents, complications.  Focking idiot.

[Strike 5,404]

19 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Anytime you wanna dispute what I said, go for it, but we both know you can't, so you take cheap shots.

Your posts re: Trump are not factually correct and a bit delusional.  I'll pass.  Keep up the good fight!!

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I'm sure this is a waste of time since you'll dismiss all of it, but if you're being honest, here goes...

no one knows what he WILL do.  Likely or possible, yeah, he's told us.

Economy: tariffs, tax cuts for wealthy, exploding debt...

Foreign relations: Give Ukraine and other European countries to Putin, abandon NATO, partner with dictators he has professed love for.  Threats of war with Iran, love of nuclear war and threats to be the first to launch.

Project 2025: there is a whole thread on this, but getting rid of govt employees that voted Democrat and replacing with Trumpers, removal of women's rights, abortion, IVF, contraception, Christian nationalism...

Revenge: he wants to use his power to jail anyone who disagrees with him.

Illegals: round up and deport 11 million people.

Corruption: history of bribes with foreign nationals.

Lunacy: hes an unhinged malignant narcissist and we don't know truly what he might do.

Just off the top of my head.

That's my thinking too, but I'm not even going to bother. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Your posts re: Trump are not factually correct and a bit delusional.  I'll pass.  Keep up the good fight!!

They are factually correct and you can't prove that they are not, so you made a snide comment and slinked away.  It's your M.O.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,243]

37 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Tardcore thinks abortion is all about inconvenience.  Forget assault, accidents, complications.  Focking idiot.

Sure thing Gutterboy.  I’ll continue to live with open borders and the criminals that come here due to them, funding endless wars, mutilating children, Kamala next in line and the ridiculous green  deal because abortion. Nah. I’m all grown up and did a comparison and I’ve concluded that abortion isn’t worth it. Especially since it’s up to the states now, as it should be. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

I want receipts.  

I want those who are deathly afraid of a Trump 2nd term to say what they expect to happen.  (Dictatorship, lock AOC up, throw gays in jail)

Lets hear it if you have the balls.  I want receipts.  

Apparently you don't.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,799]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Oh here we go, where the Trump apologists tell us what he actually meant.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poland-france-and-germany-vow-to-make-europe-stronger-as-fears-grow-over-russia-and-trump

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members

 

[Voltaire 5,280]

He'll make the bad people angry. and sad.

[Mike Honcho 5,250]

Yeah, it's Gutterboy who is regurgitating talking points.   

[listen2me 23 1,846]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Apparently you don't.

What are you blabbing about?

[Fnord 2,175]

On 6/25/2024 at 2:52 PM, Fnord said:

 If you remember back to early 2017, his administration was in total disarray. They didn't have a lot of things in place that normal candidates would have, like lists of potential appointees for various positions. When they finally filled them out, many of the appointees were Republican establishment types, stalwarts of the party with political experience and chops. These were the people that shut Trump down on ideas like using the National Guard to quell riots in 2020 (remember he once suggested shooting protestors in the leg) as an example. Plenty more from this article about his first 100 days..

The Heritage Foundation, among many other political think tanks, have worked with the RNC (which was completely absorbed by Trump and his like-minded brethren) closely to put together a roster of loyalists that will proliferate appointments. He wants to fire tens of thousands of civil servants to replace them with said loyalists. He will not appoint or hire anyone that is not in lockstep with his "vision." What that means is a bunch of subordinates that cannot be counted on to tell Trump 'NO' when his stupidest, most destructive ideas are being pushed.

Basically, he has NOTHING to lose by doing every dingbat thing that enters what passes for his brain nowadays, no one to curtail his worst impulses, a DOJ full of yes-men that he plans on bringing entirely under his control to run cover for him, and no loyalty to the electorate since he can't run again. Plus, he'll pardon himself for any charges that can't be squashed by his DOJ henchmen.

He's telling us what he plans to do. This is not a secret or a conspiracy theory. If you think he won't be able to do it, think about the years of work that have gone into it, and ask yourself if any of this sounds plausible knowing who Donald Trump is. Vote accordingly. 

Copied from Project 2025 thread. Not that any of you will care.

[seafoam1 2,916]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Copied from Project 2025 thread. Not that any of you will care.

Convinced. Trump 2024!! He has my vote. Partly because he exposes the libtards who try to rewrite history. 

Liberals are so stupid. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,022]

16 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Copied from Project 2025 thread. Not that any of you will care.

Oh my goodness! 

And you're worried about "Magamooks"? 

Lots of tinfoil in that post.  Oy vey.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,243]

41 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Copied from Project 2025 thread. Not that any of you will care.

I’m already voting for Trump.  You don’t have to convince me. 

[Strike 5,404]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m already voting for Trump.  You don’t have to convince me. 

Only once?   You're never gonna turn that state red that way.

[Cdub100 3,885]

10 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I'm sure this is a waste of time since you'll dismiss all of it, but if you're being honest, here goes...

no one knows what he WILL do.  Likely or possible, yeah, he's told us.

Economy: tariffs, tax cuts for wealthy, exploding debt...

Foreign relations: Give Ukraine and other European countries to Putin, abandon NATO, partner with dictators he has professed love for.  Threats of war with Iran, love of nuclear war and threats to be the first to launch.

Project 2025: there is a whole thread on this, but getting rid of govt employees that voted Democrat and replacing with Trumpers, removal of women's rights, abortion, IVF, contraception, Christian nationalism...

Revenge: he wants to use his power to jail anyone who disagrees with him.

Illegals: round up and deport 11 million people.

Corruption: history of bribes with foreign nationals.

Lunacy: hes an unhinged malignant narcissist and we don't know truly what he might do.

Just off the top of my head.

If you added in round up all the liberals like you and send them to the socialist countries they love so much.

Is vote 10x more

[Nomad99 720]

8 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Tardcore thinks abortion is all about inconvenience.  Forget assault, accidents, complications.  Focking idiot.

The numbers prove you to be the idiot. The VAST # of abortions are performed because the pregnancy is inconvenient. There are a number of reasons for those inconveniences but none of them have to do with the health of the mother or child. All but a microscopic few are the result of no birth control measures. INCONVENIENCE.........funny word. We have created a society that finds it INCONVENIENT to use birth control but CONVENIENT to abort a child. That is just effed up no matter what universe you live in.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

10 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I'm sure this is a waste of time since you'll dismiss all of it, but if you're being honest, here goes...

no one knows what he WILL do.  Likely or possible, yeah, he's told us.

Economy: tariffs, tax cuts for wealthy, exploding debt...

Foreign relations: Give Ukraine and other European countries to Putin, abandon NATO, partner with dictators he has professed love for.  Threats of war with Iran, love of nuclear war and threats to be the first to launch.

Project 2025: there is a whole thread on this, but getting rid of govt employees that voted Democrat and replacing with Trumpers, removal of women's rights, abortion, IVF, contraception, Christian nationalism...

Revenge: he wants to use his power to jail anyone who disagrees with him.

Illegals: round up and deport 11 million people.

Corruption: history of bribes with foreign nationals.

Lunacy: hes an unhinged malignant narcissist and we don't know truly what he might do.

Just off the top of my head.

Whole lotta funny-ass stupid in here.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

2 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

The numbers prove you to be the idiot. The VAST # of abortions are performed because the pregnancy is inconvenient. There are a number of reasons for those inconveniences but none of them have to do with the health of the mother or child. All but a microscopic few are the result of no birth control measures. INCONVENIENCE.........funny word. We have created a society that finds it INCONVENIENT to use birth control but CONVENIENT to abort a child. That is just effed up no matter what universe you live in.

Brilliant quote.  Speaks volumes about what pieces of shitt Liberals are.

[Fnord 2,175]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Oh my goodness! 

And you're worried about "Magamooks"? 

Lots of tinfoil in that post.  Oy vey.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Hopefully I'm wrong.

How'd it go last night Buddy?  

[Fnord 2,175]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

How'd it go last night Buddy?  

FFS, what is it with you and rainbows?

Last night was illuminating and depressing. Enjoy your opportunity to gloat, Rainbow Brite. 

[jerryskids 6,713]

8 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Oh here we go, where the Trump apologists tell us what he actually meant.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poland-france-and-germany-vow-to-make-europe-stronger-as-fears-grow-over-russia-and-trump

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-comments-urging-russia-to-invade-delinquent-nato-members

Putting aside the fact that PBS is a far-Left source that we should not be paying taxes to support...

When Trump was POTUS, he basically biotch-slapped a bunch of delinquent hanger-on countries to pay up or GTFO.  Many did, and that trend continued after Russia invaded Ukraine, and Europe had an "oh shiot" moment.  

I respectfully disagree that an article basically saying that three of the strongest European countries are committed to strengthening their military strength, is an indictment of Trump.  On the contrary, it's exactly what he has wanted all the time.

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

FFS, what is it with you and rainbows?

Last night was illuminating and depressing. Enjoy your opportunity to gloat, Rainbow Brite. 

The rainbow is to make you Pedocrats comfortable.  

It was depressing last night, yet you'll still vote for the old senile racist Pedo. Because you both share the same values. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,243]

Libtards bloviating about tariffs, meanwhile Biden has kept Trumps tarriffs in place.  Idiots repeating what other idiots tell them to. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,409]

9 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Anytime you wanna dispute what I said, go for it, but we both know you can't, so you take cheap shots.

 GutterBoy is at the airport. He gets to shake hands with the Donald. Planes are landing and He looks up and says “Boss, the plane, the plane” 

[Maximum Overkill 1,900]

 

 

[Jose M 125]

18 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 GutterBoy is at the airport. He gets to shake hands with the Donald. Planes are landing and He looks up and says “Boss, the plane, the plane” 

[listen2me 23 1,846]

Im whatever on abortion.  Leave it to the states.  Or dont.  I dont care. Not for any sort of hard line stance.   

But dissolving the nuclear family leads to more abortions. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

11 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I have daughters, nieces, cousins, friends...

The fact that you don't care about women's reproductive rights is telling.

The fact that you use the term "reproductive rights" is telling. Focking clown 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,243]

4 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

The fact that you use the term "reproductive rights" is telling. Focking clown 

Great point. Fockin soy boy beta talks just like the girls. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Putting aside the fact that PBS is a far-Left source that we should not be paying taxes to support...

When Trump was POTUS, he basically biotch-slapped a bunch of delinquent hanger-on countries to pay up or GTFO.  Many did, and that trend continued after Russia invaded Ukraine, and Europe had an "oh shiot" moment.  

I respectfully disagree that an article basically saying that three of the strongest European countries are committed to strengthening their military strength, is an indictment of Trump.  On the contrary, it's exactly what he has wanted all the time.

PBS is not a far left news source, wrong there, they are center or lean left, look it up.

Second, you didn't even read the articles, or you would know that the leaders of France, poland and Germany are talking about trumps comments being reckless.  The other article is the secretary general of NATO calling out trump for his comments as well.

So while you like to apologize for Trump's threat and pretend that I'm the only one who doesn't understand what he meant, I showed you NATO and it's members upset and pissed off at the douche.

As far as trump being responsible for their increased defense spending, I feel like we recently had this conversation and I shared where the spending only increased in a material matter as a result of the Russian invasion, not trump.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

25 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

The fact that you use the term "reproductive rights" is telling. Focking clown 

What you have too much testosterone to defend women's rights?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

The numbers prove you to be the idiot. The VAST # of abortions are performed because the pregnancy is inconvenient. There are a number of reasons for those inconveniences but none of them have to do with the health of the mother or child. All but a microscopic few are the result of no birth control measures. INCONVENIENCE.........funny word. We have created a society that finds it INCONVENIENT to use birth control but CONVENIENT to abort a child. That is just effed up no matter what universe you live in.

Half of abortions are where the woman used birth control.

Three million woman have gotten pregnant as a result of rape.  What is effed up is you want these women to carry these babies.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,243]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Half of abortions are where the woman used birth control.

Three million woman have gotten pregnant as a result of rape.  What is effed up is you want these women to carry these babies.

Last year? 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Well Trump has said he’ll do plenty of alarming stuff.

Tariffs that could be catastrophic for the economy and drive up prices more than inflation ever did.

Detention camps for migrants and troops hunting them down.

Abortion bans.

Won’t defend allies if he thinks they haven’t spent enough on defense.

Get rid of half of federal workers and install only loyalists as the other half.

Engage in revenge and retribution for perceived wrongs against him.

More big tax cuts for the rich.

Then of course you have the insanity of Project 2025: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

 

So I mean, if you take him at his word, and the word of the think tanks that will make up his administration, it’s pretty bad.

I’m trying to resign myself to it though, because he will win. Hopefully they won’t really do most of what they say they intend to do

[The Real timschochet 6,601]

2nd night in a row I’m up at 3am. Really sucks. But, you guys asked the question so I will try to answer. 

There is a big difference between Trump policies I don’t like and Trump policies that I believe will truly hurt all of us. The former is too long to count, so I will concentrate here on the latter. In no particular order. I believe: 

1. Trump will cut off aid to Ukraine and negotiate a deal which allows Russia to permanently occupy most of Ukraine. We will agree to guarantee the rump state that remains, but this will be similar to the rump state of Czechoslovakia that England and France guaranteed after Munich in 1938, which was meaningless. Russia will become a territorial threat to all of Western Europe, almost guaranteeing a future war in which we may be forced to put troops on the ground, and which may also ultimately lead to a nuclear war. To make matters worse, I believe that Trump has every intention of pulling the USA out of NATO. Trump will also not lift a finger to defend Taiwan if China decides to invade, or South Korea from North Korea. This is what isolationism is all about. 

2. Trump’s attempt to conduct a mass deportation of millions of undocumented immigrants will result in mass protests, rioting (most of these folks aren’t violent but some will become so), an infinite amount of legal challenges. The result will be a total failure- imagine the War Against Drugs multiplied 100 times over. But even the attempt will cost billions of dollars, create a terrible image for the United States, and drive food prices (and all prices) through the roof. 

3. in terms of the our economic well being, Trump’s tariffs plan will be the most catastrophic thing he will attempt. However I don’t see him succeeding with this. I figure he’ll talk about it but in the end he will face too much opposition from market forces so I’m less concerned about it. However if it happens we are truly focked. 

4. Biden’s actions on climate change, while some environmentalists believe are too limited, are a positive step forward in dealing with what is our most pressing problem. Trump is of the view that this problem does not exist. He is truly convinced that our long term economic woes can be solved by massive oil and coal drilling and reversing all of the environmental actions that Biden has taken. This will effectively destroy our last chance to avoid calamity and destruction in future years which are coming upon us much sooner than we think. 
 

There’s a whole lot more but these are my main concerns. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,243]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Well Trump has said he’ll do plenty of alarming stuff.

Tariffs that could be catastrophic for the economy and drive up prices more than inflation ever did.

Detention camps for migrants and troops hunting them down.

Abortion bans.

Won’t defend allies if he thinks they haven’t spent enough on defense.

Get rid of half of federal workers and install only loyalists as the other half.

Engage in revenge and retribution for perceived wrongs against him.

More big tax cuts for the rich.

Then of course you have the insanity of Project 2025: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

 

So I mean, if you take him at his word, and the word of the think tanks that will make up his administration, it’s pretty bad.

I’m trying to resign myself to it though, because he will win. Hopefully they won’t really do most of what they say they intend to do

When did he say he was going to ban abortions? 

[Voltaire 5,280]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When did he say he was going to ban abortions? 

He clearly stated in the debate that the Supreme Court just recently approved the abortion pill and that he agreed and he won't block it. He also clearly states this is and should be a state issue. But when Dems want to know what Donald Trump thinks about things, they don't tune in to him, even though they just saw him a few hours earlier, they let Joy Reid explain it to them and they post ignorant things like this.

Trump took the middle approach to abortion while pointing out how Diaperman supports abortion in the 9th month.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

46 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When did he say he was going to ban abortions? 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/353533-trump-administration-backs-20-week-abortion-ban/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/us/politics/trump-abortion-ban.html

There’s more.

He’s also bragged about killing roe v wade 

In typical Trump fashion he’s said contradictory stuff too, so who knows where he really stands and what he’ll really do. But he followed through on killing Roe so I think it’d be wise to believe he might do a federal ban