No Tax on Tips

[edjr 6,580]

When Trump said it the libs were against it.     

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/11/kamala-harris-voted-pass-legislation-allowing-irs-track-workers-tips-taxed/

[Strike 5,418]

5 hours ago, edjr said:

When Trump said it the libs were against it.     

Yup.  To your point, here is CBS News when Trump announced it:

And here is CBS News when KamalaToe copied him:

But yeah, there's no bias there. 

[Reality 3,121]

On 8/11/2024 at 2:47 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

yeah, thanks for confirming that racism never left you or your party.  White liberals are the most racist m'fers on the planet.  Sorry, pal.  Own it.

It's pretty stunning how open they are about it. 

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yup.  To your point, here is CBS News when Trump announced it:

And here is CBS News when KamalaToe copied him:

But yeah, there's no bias there. 

Lol, incredible.

[MDC 7,285]

Updated December 14, 2017

On December 5, the Trump administration took its first major step toward allowing employers to legally pocket the tips earned by the workers they employ. The Department of Labor (DOL) released a proposed rule that would allow restaurants to take the tips that servers earn and share them with untipped employees such as cooks and dishwashers.1But, crucially, the rule doesn’t actually require that employers distribute “pooled” tips to workers. Under the administration’s proposed rule, as long as tipped workers earn minimum wage, employers could legally pocket those tips.

Thanks Don!  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

Updated December 14, 2017

On December 5, the Trump administration took its first major step toward allowing employers to legally pocket the tips earned by the workers they employ. The Department of Labor (DOL) released a proposed rule that would allow restaurants to take the tips that servers earn and share them with untipped employees such as cooks and dishwashers.1But, crucially, the rule doesn’t actually require that employers distribute “pooled” tips to workers. Under the administration’s proposed rule, as long as tipped workers earn minimum wage, employers could legally pocket those tips.

Thanks Don!  

That’s more like it (for Trump)

[Gepetto 1,353]

Better yet, I propose we eliminate all tipping. People in other countries don't tip. Employers should pay their employees, not the customers. 

[seafoam1 2,920]

6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s more like it.

 

12 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Who is this dipsh1t?

 

[seafoam1 2,920]

On 8/11/2024 at 10:49 AM, 5-Points said:

I'm against tip sharing, at least amongst the servers. I get kicking back to bartenders and bussers. But if you're a good server and make good tips, you shouldn't be compelled to share your tips with shitty servers. 

Mebbe making tips tax exempt will result in better service as people will want to earn bigger tips. 

Agreed 100%. Some people are really good at upselling food and wine because they know what they are talking about, so why should the bottom feeders get a cut of that? 

[Alias Detective 1,394]

13 hours ago, Strike said:

Yup.  To your point, here is CBS News when Trump announced it:

And here is CBS News when KamalaToe copied him:

But yeah, there's no bias there. 

@squistion @MDC @IGotWorms @The Real timschochet

[Hawkeye21 2,393]

On 8/11/2024 at 6:13 AM, avoiding injuries said:

Kamala just came up with a great idea!! Unfortunately, it was Trump’s from two months ago. What a clown.  

https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1822462941603516631?s=46

Are you sure she wasn't talking about "Just the tip?"

[seafoam1 2,920]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Are you sure she wasn't talking about "Just the tip?"

You seen the size of her mouth? 

Gobble gobble. 

[Hawkeye21 2,393]

5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You seen the size of her mouth? 

Gobble gobble. 

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

On 8/11/2024 at 2:50 PM, Fireballer said:

Kinda cute that Kamala is flaunting her tie breaking vote.  How did this affect taxes on tips?  Anyone?

 

In the context of this thread, I believe that would be called a non-sequitur 

[HellToupee 1,712]

What if I told you Kamala Harris' best idea is actually Donald Trump's?

Kamala Harris lifted Donald Trump's tax cut proposal and claimed it as her own. It's such a bold strategy that I almost give her kudos for trying.

Lean in close, and I'll tell you a secret: Kamala Harris' best idea is actually Donald Trump's.

As a Republican who can't stand Trump, I'm loath to say that, but it's true.

It's routine for politicians running for president to lay out a policy agenda and to make promises. Heck, we're even used to how often they break those promises once they're in office.

But rip off your opponent and pass his idea as your own? It's a bold strategy.

At a campaign stop Saturday in Las Vegas, Harris championed a proposal to eliminate federal income taxes on tips. Good idea. I wonder who thought of it first?

It's a plan that Trump has been talking about for months. In fact, Trump talked about eliminating the tax at his own campaign rally in Nevada − in early June.

When CBS News reported on Harris suddenly touting a Trumpian tax cut, they said she was merely "echoing" her rival.

Of course, Trump doesn't own the idea of ending taxes on tips. But neither President Joe Biden nor Vice President Harris has taken action on eliminating the tax while in office the past four years.

Biden cutting taxes? It's laughable. In fact, he's proposed the opposite.

Trump's idea to eliminate taxes on tips is popular because it appeals to everyday voters struggling to make ends meet, in large part because of an inflation rate that soared under Biden's stewardship of the economy.

Now, Harris has ripped off Trump without so much as a nod in his direction. And to make it worse, much of the news media hasn't called her on it. If Trump did that, he'd be called a thief.

I know Trump is awful.But he's still better for America than Harris.

Did Harris forget she's the incumbent vice president?

 

But Harris didn't just steal a proposal from Trump. She's also on the campaign trail promising to do things she could have done in the past four years.

At the same campaign stop in Las Vegas, the Democratic presidential nominee rattled off a list of things she would accomplish if elected in November. "When I was a United States senator, we fought together for paid family leave and medical leave," she said. "And it is my promise to everyone here, when I am president, we will continue our fight for working families of America. Including to raise the minimum wage and eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers."

Later, Harris touted a future focused on "affordable health care, affordable child care and paid leave."

"When I am president, I will continue that work to bring down prices," she said. "I will take on big corporations that engage in illegal price gouging, corporate landlords that unfairly raise rents on working families, and take on big pharma and cap the cost of prescription drugs for all Americans."

All of that sounds like a social utopia. But if these are such good ideas, why haven't she and Biden implemented them already? It's like she's forgotten she is the incumbent vice president.

How liberal is Tim Walz?Harris doubles down on her far-left plans with VP pick. Republicans must use this.

Harris' claims about the border are laughable

For most politicians, their record is a boon, not kryptonite. As soon as they compile a reasonable list of accomplishments, they tout it wherever they go. But not Harris.

As we say in Texas, she's acting like this is her first rodeo while also saying she's a seasoned rider.

“I was attorney general of a border state," Harris said at a rally on Friday in Arizona. "I went after the transnational gangs, the drug cartels and human traffickers. … We know our immigration system is broken, and we know what it takes to fix it.“

As a Texan who has seen and reported on conditions at the border firsthand, Harris' claim is a joke.

 

The chaos at the border is largely due to policies Biden implemented immediately after moving into the White House. He should have reversed those decisions as soon as the data showed that migrant crossings had surged to a record level.

For Harris to speak like she had nothing to do with our "broken" immigration system and border security is to absolve herself of the responsibility for issues she and Biden actually made worse.

The question for Harris isn't what will she do for America. It's what has the vice president done?

Harris is crisscrossing the country acting like she's not had the past four years to push her ideas as Biden's No. 2. Then she lifts Trump's tax cut proposal and claims it as her own. It's such a bold strategy that I almost give her kudos for trying.

But voters should ask why Kamala Harris' promises and her record as vice president don't add up.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

Donald Trump's proposal has no limits for income.  His policy target is hedge fund managers and corporate lawyers who will receive 7 figure compensation classified as tips 

Kamala Harris's proposal has an income cap.  Her policy target is low income workers, receiving $5 on a $30 check as a server 

[seafoam1 2,920]

12 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Donald Trump's proposal has no limits for income.  His policy target is hedge fund managers and corporate lawyers who will receive 7 figure compensation classified as tips 

Kamala Harris's proposal has an income cap.  Her policy target is low income workers, receiving $5 on a $30 check as a server 

 Liberals eat this shlt up. It's never ending how hard they try to justify their idiocy. 

[HellToupee 1,712]

2 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Donald Trump's proposal has no limits for income.  His policy target is hedge fund managers and corporate lawyers who will receive 7 figure compensation classified as tips 

Kamala Harris's proposal has an income cap.  Her policy target is low income workers, receiving $5 on a $30 check as a server 

Come on man , this is embarrassing 

[Reality 3,121]

2 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Donald Trump's proposal has no limits for income.  His policy target is hedge fund managers and corporate lawyers who will receive 7 figure compensation classified as tips 

Kamala Harris's proposal has an income cap.  Her policy target is low income workers, receiving $5 on a $30 check as a server 

Good Lord.

[MDC 7,285]

Donald wanted to let employers seize worker tips. Kamala wants them to be tax free. The choice is clear. 

Thank you Madame President!  

[purdygood 343]

2 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Donald Trump's proposal has no limits for income.  His policy target is hedge fund managers and corporate lawyers who will receive 7 figure compensation classified as tips 

Kamala Harris's proposal has an income cap.  Her policy target is low income workers, receiving $5 on a $30 check as a server 

So if my job pays me in "tips" I wont owe any taxes?  AWESOME!  I came to work for minimum wage today. But if you wanttttt to tip me the difference of what you used to pay me" wink wink.

[Alias Detective 1,394]

On 8/13/2024 at 8:53 AM, Alias Detective said:

@squistion @MDC @IGotWorms @The Real timschochet

 

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

Donald wanted to let employers seize worker tips. Kamala wants them to be tax free. The choice is clear. 

Thank you Madame President!  

So nothing but trolling -

[MDC 7,285]

32 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

 

So nothing but trolling -

Was there a question there? I usually ignore you.

[Baker Boy 1,694]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-dems-kill-gop-bid-exempt-tips-from-taxes
 

California Dems kill GOP bid to exempt tips from taxes

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

Not taxing tips is bad policy regardless of who proposes it. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

53 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not taxing tips is bad policy regardless of who proposes it. 

Why is it bad policy? Aren’t tips a gift or do you believe you are paying part of their salary?
 

[purdygood 343]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

Why is it bad policy?
II understand why people who Tip because they feel a worker deserves additional income believe this. What I don’t understand is why you insist that these tips be taxed. Why do you want 20% of your tip to go to the government?
 

Most of them already don''t report (cash) tips anyways. And they are paid below minimum wage in most states and the employers expect them to makeup the difference in tips. (and report them). But they don't.   These people work hard for not a lot of money (except them bottle service girls in Vegas and strippers) so It's a policy position that doesn't move the needle for me either way.

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

11 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why is it bad policy? Aren’t tips a gift or do you believe you are paying part of their salary?
 

1.) It offers tax breaks to a small group of people in a low salary bracket but ignores the rest of them.

2.) With the higher standard deduction most of those people already don't pay taxes anyway so it does nothing essentially

3.) It will complicate the tax code

Lower the tax rate for lower income brackets or raise the standard deduction. THat would do more to help

[Mike Honcho 5,251]

 

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Michigan phasing out tipping system

Servers juggle multiple tables a day and are happy to pick up the holiday shifts and the tips.

All that could soon be changing with a recent ruling from the Michigan Supreme Court, eliminating the tip credit.

“I prefer tipping being in this industry for 14 years. We do our tips a little bit differently than I have done at other places before, and I personally like it. I think I can budget my money better. I like the tipping aspect over a flat rate because I feel like I'm determining what I get instead of a flat rate determining what I get,” said Solner.

Under the ruling, servers would earn a minimum wage instead of collecting tips.

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

1.) It offers tax breaks to a small group of people in a low salary bracket but ignores the rest of them.

2.) With the higher standard deduction most of those people already don't pay taxes anyway so it does nothing essentially

3.) It will complicate the tax code

Lower the tax rate for lower income brackets or raise the standard deduction. THat would do more to help

Why a Maroon!
 

According to the Public Law 117-154(06/23/2022), the U.S. Tax Code is 6,871 pages. When you include the federal tax regulations and the official tax guidance, the number of pages raises to approximately 75,000. This will take an average reader about 14 weeks to finish. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

Why a Maroon!
 

According to the Public Law 117-154(06/23/2022), the U.S. Tax Code is 6,871 pages. When you include the federal tax regulations and the official tax guidance, the number of pages raises to approximately 75,000. This will take an average reader about 14 weeks to finish. 

For the people it affects it will make it even more onerous.

Why do you have to be a doofus

[BunnysBastatrds 2,412]

On 8/13/2024 at 8:00 AM, seafoam1 said:

You seen the size of her mouth? 

Gobble gobble. 

 Judge Joe Brown went to Brown University and has said she blew any and everything. She was a mouth cumdumpster.. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

24 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

For the people it affects it will make it even more onerous.

Why do you have to be a doofus

How? Not keeping track of or reporting tips makes it more onerous? Please explain.

I think we know who is the real doofus.

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

5 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

How? Not keeping track of or reporting tips makes it more onerous? Please explain.

I think we know who is the real doofus.

Because what will constitute a tip vs a gift? People will get around it by offering more variety of things and calling it tips to get around the tax code. People who are able to do so (lawyers etc) will start to take involuntary income as tips as opposed to payments to create loopholes which will create more of a gap

None of the plans outlined account for any of this because they just said something and waited for cheers to roll in.

This stuff isn't that hard to figure out. Then easiest thing to do would be to raise the standard deduction. That would actually accomplish something and be more equitable across the board

[Gepetto 1,353]

tip

noun: tip; plural noun: tips

1. a sum of money given to someone as a reward for their services.

[JuneJuly 193]

6 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Lower the tax rate for lower income brackets or raise the standard deduction. THat would do more to help

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 Then easiest thing to do would be to raise the standard deduction. That would actually accomplish something and be more equitable across the board

The Tax Cut and Jobs Act (TCJA) reduced statutory tax rates at almost all levels of taxable income and shifted the thresholds for several income tax brackets.

TCJA nearly doubled the standard deduction.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-did-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-change-personal-taxes

[JuneJuly 193]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Because what will constitute a tip vs a gift? People will get around it by offering more variety of things and calling it tips to get around the tax code. People who are able to do so (lawyers etc) will start to take involuntary income as tips as opposed to payments to create loopholes which will create more of a gap

You can't pretend there are "loopholes" without reading the legislation first.  If the legislation passes it's law, not a loophole. I don't know anyone that pays more tax than the law requires. 

[purdygood 343]

If there is no tax on tips.  What happens when people start saying "F this i'm not leaving a tip".  Prices start to go up. 

[Sean Mooney 1,970]

1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

tip

noun: tip; plural noun: tips

1. a sum of money given to someone as a reward for their services.

And people will start changing how things are given. Why are we pretending like people do things on the up and up?

[Gepetto 1,353]

24 minutes ago, purdygood said:

If there is no tax on tips.  What happens when people start saying "F this i'm not leaving a tip".  Prices start to go up. 

Why would tax on tips or no tax on tips have any effect on that? It shouldn't. It won't.