Shots fired near Trump as he leaves Florida club

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

20 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He was from Canada. I think you need to apply a “schtick” trademark to all your posts, amigo!

French…Spanish…who cares.  It’s all gibberish to me.  Maybe Paul found his French accent to his liking?

[squistion 2,202]

21 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He was from Canada. I think you need to apply a “schtick” trademark to all your posts, amigo!

Which is why they never labeled him a "bad hombre" as that only applies to those here illegally that aren't white.

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

6 hours ago, shadrap said:

100 to 200 yards pretty easy shot for an average deer hunter even without a scope.  Over 200 yards without a scope is a difficult shot.  Anything over 300 yards even with a scope you are going to need a lot of practice.  500 yards is damn tough except for trained snipers.

Thanks for the info. Very interesting. 
 

Can an expert sniper really make a shot from 500 yards? That seems amazing. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Thanks for the info. Very interesting. 
 

Can an expert sniper really make a shot from 500 yards? That seems amazing. 

Only with an assault weapon.  Nothing else is capable.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Which is why they never labeled him a "bad hombre" as that only applies to those here illegally that aren't white.

Mauvais Homme. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

A Marine rifleman has to make a shot from 500 yards to qualify. No scope.  Also, all Marines are riflemen. And very few holes on a golf course are 500 yards.  

[nobody 2,673]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

It hasn’t gone too far until someone tries to kill Harris, duh.

No one would bother killing Harris.  They would just replace her with the next politician off the assembly line with the exact same policies.

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1 minute ago, nobody said:

No one would bother killing Harris.  They would just replace her with the next politician off the assembly line with the exact same policies.

Why can't Republicans do this without an assassination attempt? Any other Republican would be winning this race going away.

[nobody 2,673]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Why can't Republicans do this without an assassination attempt? Any other Republican would be winning this race going away.

Great question.  Republicans would likely prefer to get rid of him, but Trump is to egomaniacal and not as easy to manipulate as Biden, so the right won't be able to get him to quit.

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thanks for the info. Very interesting. 
 

Can an expert sniper really make a shot from 500 yards? That seems amazing. 

The longest recorded sniper shot is now 3800 M, over 2 miles. Some guy in WWI got a 1280M with my deer hunting gun of choice, .30-06.  I should stop bragging about the Buck I got from 250 yards.   

Longest recorded sniper kills

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4 minutes ago, nobody said:

Great question.  Republicans would likely prefer to get rid of him, but Trump is to egomaniacal and not as easy to manipulate as Biden, so the right won't be able to get him to quit.

Bolded is exactly the quality we want in a POTUS, right?

Republicans happily let him completely take over the entirety of their party, so not sure I agree with you about their preferences.

[thegeneral 3,214]

10 minutes ago, nobody said:

Great question.  Republicans would likely prefer to get rid of him, but Trump is to egomaniacal and not as easy to manipulate as Biden, so the right won't be able to get him to quit.

Trump has a base of hardcore fanboys that he wields. If you go against him he puts up the bat(shitcrazy) signal and you get primaried. Many of those go on to lose in their general elections but he doesn’t give a fock.

Maybe if Trump loses this one the fever will finally break

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18 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The longest recorded sniper shot is now 3800 M, over 2 miles. Some guy in WWI got a 1280M with my deer hunting gun of choice, .30-06.  I should stop bragging about the Buck I got from 250 yards.   

Longest recorded sniper kills

Pfft.  NSFW language and gore

 

[Herbivore 1,134]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A Marine rifleman has to make a shot from 500 yards to qualify. No scope.  Also, all Marines are riflemen. And very few holes on a golf course are 500 yards.  

unless the shooter is hiding behind the flag stick as he gets to the tee box, I'ld say he would be looking at over 500 yds on 14 out of 18 holes..just a random thought, carry on

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A Marine rifleman has to make a shot from 500 yards to qualify. No scope.  Also, all Marines are riflemen. And very few holes on a golf course are 500 yards.  

This is correct, though a skilled Marine marksman can hit a man-sized target at 800 yards with reliable strikes. We didn't qual at that distance but we practiced.

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Let’s be clear: by far the biggest inciter of violence in this country is Donald Trump. It’s not even a close call. He has created this era of division and hatred that we are currently in, and it will last until he is finally defeated in the election. 

Trump in an interview with Fox News Digital in the aftermath of the latest "assassination attempt:"

"Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country, and they are the ones that are destroying our country."

Toddler in chief can't keep his yap shut, even for self-preservation; he's actively courting violence and, true to form, blaming everyone but himself. 

[seafoam1 3,025]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Trump in an interview with Fox News Digital in the aftermath of the latest assassination attempt:

"Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country, and they are the ones that are destroying our country."

 

Wow. You finally made a an excellent point. Even if you are stealing Trump's correct points. 

[Mark Davis 398]

17 hours ago, TimHauck said:

For the record, obviously trying to kill Trump is horrible and shouldn’t happen.

I just wouldn’t blame the media for it.

If people are, they probably shouldn’t be using equally bad “rhetoric.”

That is all.

I understand your meaning.  However, I'm 50.  Just a couple months ago in my entire lifetime, there had been one attempt on a President or presidential candidate's life in that entire time.  There have been two on Trump's life since then in just this short window.  If what you are saying is true and they are equally bad, then where are all the attempts on Biden and Harris? Factually the two things aren't equal.  When democracy is on the line, our democracy is ending, a dictatorship on day one, is what they are telling you will happen if Trump wins, it shouldn't be a surprise that some people act on those hyperbolic statements because they take them at face value.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

“Their dangerous rhetoric is trying to get me killed….they are the enemy within, they are running our nation, only I can save it”

-DJT

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3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thanks for the info. Very interesting. 
 

Can an expert sniper really make a shot from 500 yards? That seems amazing. 

 

1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

unless the shooter is hiding behind the flag stick as he gets to the tee box, I'ld say he would be looking at over 500 yds on 14 out of 18 holes..just a random thought, carry on

Hey boys,  Trump doesn’t stay focking stationary on the golf course.  He had secret service walking the course ahead of him.  When security saw a gun barrel poking out of the bushes Trump was 500 yards away at that point.  Guess what - If the security didn’t see the liberal waiting to assassinate Trump he would have gotten a hell of a lot closer than the 500 yards some of you are stuck on.

Some in here might be borderline special needs.
 

Especially the poster below. 

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"He believed the rhetoric of Biden and Harris, and he acted on it," Trump said of the gunman in an interview with Fox News Digital. "Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country, and they are the ones that are destroying the country — both from the inside and out." 

wut a clown  

[TimHauck 2,876]

27 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I understand your meaning.  However, I'm 50.  Just a couple months ago in my entire lifetime, there had been one attempt on a President or presidential candidate's life in that entire time.  There have been two on Trump's life since then in just this short window.  If what you are saying is true and they are equally bad, then where are all the attempts on Biden and Harris? Factually the two things aren't equal.  When democracy is on the line, our democracy is ending, a dictatorship on day one, is what they are telling you will happen if Trump wins, it shouldn't be a surprise that some people act on those hyperbolic statements because they take them at face value.  

Wasn’t the MSM saying most of these  things or similar in 2016 & 2020 though?  What changed?  The only thing I can think of is January 6th.  Obviously they shouldn’t try to kill him for it, but maybe evidence of Trump literally not supporting democracy has pushed some of them over the edge?

And who was it that said the “dictator on day one” thing again?

[thegeneral 3,214]

32 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I understand your meaning.  However, I'm 50.  Just a couple months ago in my entire lifetime, there had been one attempt on a President or presidential candidate's life in that entire time.  There have been two on Trump's life since then in just this short window.  If what you are saying is true and they are equally bad, then where are all the attempts on Biden and Harris? Factually the two things aren't equal.  When democracy is on the line, our democracy is ending, a dictatorship on day one, is what they are telling you will happen if Trump wins, it shouldn't be a surprise that some people act on those hyperbolic statements because they take them at face value.  

Ford had two assassination attempts in 75 with a couple weeks I learned today.

In any case this guy voted for Trump. 

But that shouldn’t be what this turns into - trying to blame someone for this while taking zero accountability. These people are crazy nutjobs.

As were the people who beat on cops on Jan 6th, the guy who beat Paul Pelosi with a hammer, the guy who shot Gabby Giffords, Steve Scalise, and so on.

There is inflamed rhetoric throughout the political world. Trump in his speech today about getting shot in the next line says Dems are trying to destroy the country”. It would be great if politics hasn’t become this but it has.

 

[Mark Davis 398]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Wasn’t the MSM saying most of these  things or similar in 2016 & 2020 though?  What changed?  The only thing I can think of is January 6th.  Obviously they shouldn’t try to kill him for it, but maybe evidence of Trump literally not supporting democracy has pushed some of them over the edge?

And who was it that said the “dictator on day one” thing again?

Not to the degree they are now I don't believe so.  I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 so I wasn't all in tune with it and honestly could not be remembering the entire thing.  The democracy on the ballot, I think that's fairly new or more of a rallying cry this cycle.  We can have differing opinions and that's fine.  But statistically this period is obviously an outlier for assassination attempts, both have been directed at Trump.  I just find it odd that the man people are trying to kill is the one that the narrative is being spun towards blaming.  If the man is so awful and his followers are so awful, it seems like the worst acts are being attempted against him.

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3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thanks for the info. Very interesting. 
 

Can an expert sniper really make a shot from 500 yards? That seems amazing. 

An average sniper can hit a dollar bill at 800 yards.  500 yards is easy.

[Mark Davis 398]

17 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Ford had two assassination attempts in 75 with a couple weeks I learned today.

In any case this guy voted for Trump. 

But that shouldn’t be what this turns into - trying to blame someone for this while taking zero accountability. These people are crazy nutjobs.

As were the people who beat on cops on Jan 6th, the guy who beat Paul Pelosi with a hammer, the guy who shot Gabby Giffords, Steve Scalise, and so on.

There is inflamed rhetoric throughout the political world. Trump in his speech today about getting shot in the next line says Dems are trying to destroy the country”. It would be great if politics hasn’t become this but it has.

 

To say he voted for Trump is a little misleading given his social media posts.  It would be like describing my politics because I voted for Clinton at some point.  I doubt you see me to the left today.  He obviously had moved far away from Trump given what has come out and was certainly not a Trump supporter now.

Giffords was in 2010 (perhaps early '11 I just remember it because I was flying to AZ when it happened), Scalise is at least a few years back now, Pelosi a couple.  All of these disturbed individuals but I don't think any were triggered by any one candidate or talking point.  I don't think any of these acts were done because they perceived an immediate threat to the country, but more so just some disturbed viewpoint of politics or even just people who are flat out disturbed.  I agree that's way too many instances and I'm sure there are others I left out, and the rhetoric overall needs to be tamped down and these type individuals are triggered periodically by the overall tone.

You can go back and find where I was critical of the 1/6 actors and support prosecuting them.  There is no equivocation.  Just because one side did one thing doesn't make the other ok or normalized.  Trump uses harsh rhetoric, much of that is why I didn't vote for him in the primary.  Yes, I wish he would tone it down and I think to some extent that would help him politically as well.  But the facts are that it's his life that has had attempts on it multiple times in the past few weeks.  We can say "both sides" all we want, but the reality is that it hasn't been both sides as far as plots on people's lives go.  

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2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Trump has a base of hardcore fanboys that he wields. If you go against him he puts up the bat(shitcrazy) signal and you get primaried. Many of those go on to lose in their general elections but he doesn’t give a fock.

Maybe if Trump loses this one the fever will finally break

About 1/2 of those voting for him are just like me.  Don't like his demeanor or his antics.  I like his policies & the job he did as president.  4 years with him were much better than 4 years with Biden & Harris.

If people were not so embolden by party we would be better off as a nation.  but you know the drill, my side-your side.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Obama : No attempts to speak of since 2007.  Trump: Two in two months.  I bet Obama has a much bigger and better detail than Trump. 

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1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

unless the shooter is hiding behind the flag stick as he gets to the tee box, I'ld say he would be looking at over 500 yds on 14 out of 18 holes..just a random thought, carry on

you obviously are not a golfer because what you typed is not true, even a little.

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[thegeneral 3,214]

17 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

To say he voted for Trump is a little misleading given his social media posts.  It would be like describing my politics because I voted for Clinton at some point.  I doubt you see me to the left today.  He obviously had moved far away from Trump given what has come out and was certainly not a Trump supporter now.

Giffords was in 2010 (perhaps early '11 I just remember it because I was flying to AZ when it happened), Scalise is at least a few years back now, Pelosi a couple.  All of these disturbed individuals but I don't think any were triggered by any one candidate or talking point.  I don't think any of these acts were done because they perceived an immediate threat to the country, but more so just some disturbed viewpoint of politics or even just people who are flat out disturbed.  I agree that's way too many instances and I'm sure there are others I left out, and the rhetoric overall needs to be tamped down and these type individuals are triggered periodically by the overall tone.

You can go back and find where I was critical of the 1/6 actors and support prosecuting them.  There is no equivocation.  Just because one side did one thing doesn't make the other ok or normalized.  Trump uses harsh rhetoric, much of that is why I didn't vote for him in the primary.  Yes, I wish he would tone it down and I think to some extent that would help him politically as well.  But the facts are that it's his life that has had attempts on it multiple times in the past few weeks.  We can say "both sides" all we want, but the reality is that it hasn't been both sides as far as plots on people's lives go.  

I wouldn’t put much weight on this person having voted for Trump or that he wanted Vivek and Tulsi or that he donated to Dem causes as a sign of anything. He’s a crazy person, he doesn’t represent Democrats.

No one has any clue what triggered these attacks. People are crazy, we live in a more dangerous society, people feel emboldened by a variety of factors, they thought Jodi Foster was communicating to them. Could be many things but foremost is they are nutjobs. 

Agree that toning down the rhetoric would be very much appreciated. Saw a clip recently of Presidential debates from the past 30 years or so and the tone was practically nice and pleasant even when they were disagreeing. 

I was not normalizing these attacks or blaming Trump per se but was pointing out he is as much a part of the problem as anyone could be and for him of all people to lay this on another group is the ultimate troll job from the ultimate troll. Or he’s just completely oblivious.

[thegeneral 3,214]

If I understood right the dude was a hole ahead of Trump in bushes that line the course. The bushes are really thick and the other side is public roads.

There was a SS scouting a hole ahead of Don’s group who saw the rifle sticking out of the bushes and he shot at the dude.

If he weren’t so dumb he perhaps could have stayed hidden when Trump was foot wedging his ball down the fairway and would have been within range of a fairly easy shot. Pretty scary stuff TBH.

The amount of people required to secure this big of an area has to be an insane undertaking. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,989]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

If I understood right the dude was a hole ahead of Trump in bushes that line the course. The bushes are really thick and the other side is public roads.

There was a SS scouting a hole ahead of Don’s group who saw the rifle sticking out of the bushes and he shot at the dude.

If he weren’t so dumb he perhaps could have stayed hidden when Trump was foot wedging his ball down the fairway and would have been within range of a fairly easy shot. Pretty scary stuff TBH.

The amount of people required to secure this big of an area has to be an insane undertaking. 

 

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,989]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

"He believed the rhetoric of Biden and Harris, and he acted on it," Trump said of the gunman in an interview with Fox News Digital. "Their rhetoric is causing me to be shot at, when I am the one who is going to save the country, and they are the ones that are destroying the country — both from the inside and out." 

wut a clown  

A Liberal with a Russian Rifle, you can't make this up  

 

 

[thegeneral 3,214]

4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

A Liberal with a Russian Rifle, you can't make this up  

 

 

Or it appears he didn’t donate to Democratic platforms according to your tweet. That is a new development.

[thegeneral 3,214]

8 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

 

 

If true that is pretty crazy. 

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

The head of the Secret Service said that this golf course was an unplanned visit for Donald Trump (he owns 3 courses in the area.) So how did the gunman, who reportedly hid in the bushes for 12 hours, know Trump was gonna be there? Did he just get incredibly lucky or did somebody tell him? 

I’m the last guy who buys into conspiracy theories, and I won’t buy into one here. But this doesn’t make any sense.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,989]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

conspiracy

A Liberal with a Russian Rifle No Joke! 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

How does the world’s worst businessman own three golf courses that are in the area with the most expensive real estate on earth? 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How does the world’s worst businessman own three golf courses that are in the area with the most expensive real estate on earth? 

Russian backing.