Democrats lash out at 'misinformed' Teamsters as union makes landmark non-endorsement

[seafoam1 2,799]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-lash-out-misinformed-teamsters-union-makes-landmark-non-endorsement

Several Democrats responded overnight to news that the Teamsters, under General President Sean O’Brien, decided against issuing a presidential endorsement.

"Unfortunately, neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union to ensure the interests of working people are always put before big business," O’Brien said in a statement.

Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass. who, like O'Brien, hails from the Boston area, called former President Trump the "most anti-labor president we have ever had."

"It’s clear that these workers are misinformed or uninformed about Trump’s record on labor," McGovern told the Washington Times. "His allegiance isn’t toward working people."                 

McGovern, the top Democrat on the House Rules Committee, said it is obvious that Trump supports "rich people" over the working class.

 

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The International Brotherhood of Teamsters declined to endorse a presidential candidate on Wednesday after releasing internal polling that showed a majority of its members supported former President Donald Trump over Vice President Kamala Harris.

It’s the first time in nearly three decades that the union has not endorsed a presidential candidate.

“Unfortunately, neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union to ensure the interests of working people are always put before Big Business,” Teamsters President Sean O’Brien said in a statement. “We sought commitments from both Trump and Harris not to interfere in critical union campaigns or core Teamsters industries – and to honor our members’ right to strike – but were unable to secure those pledges.”

Ahead of the decision, the Teamsters shared internal data showing that a majority of members supported Trump over Harris. According to an electronic member poll that was initiated after President Joe Biden withdrew from the race, about 60% of members believed the union should endorse Trump while 34% supported Harris. About 6% said they supported another candidate.

“It’s a great honor. They’re not going to endorse the Democrats. That’s a big thing,” Trump said during a campaign stop in New York City on Wednesday. “Democrats automatically have the Teamsters. They took a vote, and I guess I was at 60% or more, and that’s a great honor.”

Harris met with Teamsters leaders on Monday. O’Brien had a prime-time speaking slot at this summer’s Republican National Convention but did not appear at the Democratic convention the following month.

The Teamsters, which represents truck drivers, freight workers and other workers, is the last major labor union to announce a presidential endorsement. The nation’s other major labor organizations, including the American Federation of Teachers and the United Auto Workers, have backed Harris.

The last time the Teamsters sat out a presidential election was 1996. It endorsed Democratic nominees in the ensuing six elections, including Trump’s opponents Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020. The union last backed a Republican presidential candidate in 1988, with an endorsement of George H.W. Bush.

CNN previously reported that rank-and-file union membership had large pockets of Trump support, even as major labor leaders endorsed Harris.

Before Biden dropped out of the race, Teamsters officials had suggested to various stakeholders that the union could remain politically neutral this cycle for the first time in decades.

More at:  https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/18/politics/teamsters-will-not-endorse-us-president/index.html

This reminds me of when @The Real timschochet posts  support of transing the children by the APA and AMA, and concludes that the vast majority of doctors support it.  Uh, no.  The political, lobbying organization supports it, not necessarily the doctors.  In this case, the political/lobbying arm of the Teamsters, in bed with the Democrats for decades, decided to eschew the overwhelming support of Trump by it's constituents with a "we're taking our ball and going home" stance.

[weepaws 3,152]

It’s always funny to watch the team eat each other up, now they trying to kill each other, not more attacks, the power of fame, money it’s evil.  

[Nomad99 699]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

More at:  https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/18/politics/teamsters-will-not-endorse-us-president/index.html

This reminds me of when @The Real timschochet posts  support of transing the children by the APA and AMA, and concludes that the vast majority of doctors support it.  Uh, no.  The political, lobbying organization supports it, not necessarily the doctors.  In this case, the political/lobbying arm of the Teamsters, in bed with the Democrats for decades, decided to eschew the overwhelming support of Trump by it's constituents with a "we're taking our ball and going home" stance.

If internal polls showed 60% towards kamaltoe......they would have endorsed......take from that what you will...

[jerryskids 6,557]

1 minute ago, Nomad99 said:

If internal polls showed 60% towards kamaltoe......they would have endorsed......take from that what you will...

Absolutely, no doubt.   

[Nomad99 699]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Absolutely, no doubt.   

That they chose to not endorse either candidate......knowing what their membership wanted....speaks volumes to what EVERYONE should take note of.

[OldMaid 2,129]

Looks like local chapters are going against the grain:

https://newrepublic.com/post/186152/kamala-harris-teamsters-endorsements-swing-states

 

 

[jerryskids 6,557]

3 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Looks like local chapters are going against the grain:

https://newrepublic.com/post/186152/kamala-harris-teamsters-endorsements-swing-states

 

 

I wouldn't exactly call that "against the grain."  See the above discussion -- this in no way means that the actual Teamsters in those states support Harris.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I wouldn't exactly call that "against the grain."  See the above discussion -- this in no way means that the actual Teamsters in those states support Harris.

These dumbassses really believe that truck drivers and construction workers are going to vote for the Party that can’t define what a woman is, and mandates that tampons be placed in 4th grade boys rooms.

[OldMaid 2,129]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I wouldn't exactly call that "against the grain."  See the above discussion -- this in no way means that the actual Teamsters in those states support Harris.

headscratch

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

17 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

headscratch

The rank and file are not making those decisions.  It's the Teamsters exective/bosses making those decisions in spite of their rank and file.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

Calling the Teachers union a labor union. Please 

[OldMaid 2,129]

3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The rank and file are not making those decisions.  It's the Teamsters exective/bosses making those decisions in spite of their rank and file.

So, they won’t go against the majority of the members wishes nationally, but they will at the local level? 

Makes perfect sense. 

[jerryskids 6,557]

51 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

So, they won’t go against the majority of the members wishes nationally, but they will at the local level? 

Makes perfect sense. 

Agreed.  What makes more sense is a bunch of blue collar workers who polled 60%/34% Trump/Harris, polled for Harris in the states listed.  And not only did so, but did so at higher than a 60/34 clip.  Because the national folks didn't feel like 60/34 was enough to make a call, so that wasn't enough.

Thanks for being the voice of reason.   

[Bill E. 703]

If they don't know who to vote for they aint Teamsters

[Bill E. 703]

The article kind of buried the reason they did not make an endorsement:

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In the past week, following the Democratic National Convention and recent Presidential debate, the Teamsters commissioned independent polling firm Lake Research Partners to conduct the union’s final national survey. In the poll ending Sept. 15, Teamsters selected Trump by 58 percent for endorsement over 31 percent for Harris.

https://teamster.org/2024/09/teamsters-release-presidential-endorsement-polling-data/

So with the almost 2-1 of their members that voted supporting Trump over Harris they choose as a union not to endorse anyone.  My guess is they will commission another poll and the results will flip so they can fall in line and endorse a candidate who was born into a middle class family. 

[Gepetto 1,288]

Sheep follow endorsements. 

Votes elect

[Gepetto 1,288]

FDR can burn in hell. 

Socialist Dictator.

[Bill E. 703]

3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Sheep follow endorsements. 

Votes elect

Yea but a lot of liberal leaders seem unhappy about the lack of an endorsement. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

5 hours ago, OldMaid said:

So, they won’t go against the majority of the members wishes nationally, but they will at the local level? 

Makes perfect sense. 

"They" is "Corporate".

None of those Workers support Kamala and everyone knows it. But Corporate supports her, because she's an easy lay. She'll do anything for money and is easily manipulated. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,310]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

"They" is "Corporate".

None of those Workers support Kamala and everyone knows it. But Corporate supports her, because she's an easy lay. She'll do anything for money and is easily manipulated. 

 Even I wouldn’t allow her to blow me even though I heard she was great at it at Brown University. 

[RLLD 4,143]

For Democrats "misinformation" is essentially anything that does not completely agree with them.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

For Democrats "misinformation" is essentially anything that does not completely agree with them.

Seems odd all the so called disinformation experts are leftists and only the leftist corporate media utilize fAcT cHeCkErs

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

9 hours ago, OldMaid said:

So, they won’t go against the majority of the members wishes nationally, but they will at the local level? 

Makes perfect sense. 

This is the point I've tried to make numerous times to posters here- the national union is different than the local ones in what they choose to do and choose to support. 

[MDC 7,121]

So Trump is like 0-50-1 now on union endorsements. Odd, since he’s been such a working class champion and picked a Silicon Valley hillbilly as his running mate. Lol

[RLLD 4,143]

14 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Seems odd all the so called disinformation experts are leftists and only the leftist corporate media utilize fAcT cHeCkErs

When your policies are flawed and result in negative outcomes, but your ideology is based on utopia......its a tough ball to carry.

So when it arises that the consequences of their flawed ideas manifest, they cannot take accountability or allow that they might be wrong....its has to be "misinformation"

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

The teachers union supports democrats and leftists nationally and locally. All unions aren’t the same. To think they are is laughable. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The teachers union supports democrats and leftists nationally and locally. All unions aren’t the same. To think they are is laughable. 

Funny- I've been asked to support Republicans in various elections over my 15 years in the union. But again- you are too dumb to know that

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Funny- I've been asked to support Republicans in various elections over my 15 years in the union. But again- you are too dumb to know that

Laughable. Who? Town supervisor?? Let’s hear who. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Laughable 

You are just a sad individual. Sitting in your house yelling on the Internet about things you have no clue about. More power to you for continuing to press on with your sad existence. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You are just a sad individual. Sitting in your house yelling on the Internet about things you have no clue about. More power to you for continuing to press on with your sad existence. 

Name em. Sheriff? lol. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are just a sad individual. Sitting in your house yelling on the Internet about things you have no clue about. More power to you for continuing to press on with your sad existence. 

This from a guy that is supposed to be teaching during the day but instead is here getting things wrong.  

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Name em. Sheriff? lol. 

They were local elections for county and state officials. I'm not telling you them because it would allow someone to triangulate where I live and you are an unhinged weirdo. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This from a guy that is supposed to be teaching during the day but instead is here getting things wrong.  

I told you- I have a class this year entitled "Losers in their habitat." The students just read your posts and laugh all day long. 

None of them believe you were a cop either. They said with your intelligence level no one should allow you to carry a wallet, let alone a gun.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

They were local elections for county and state officials. I'm not telling you them because it would allow someone to triangulate where I live and you are an unhinged weirdo. 

Ha! 

[MLCKAA 540]

2 hours ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 Even I wouldn’t allow her to blow me even though I heard she was great at it at Brown University. 

What?  You’d let any living woman blow you.  Let’s not get crazy.

[HellToupee 1,583]

I wonder if members of the teamsters union likes all the $$$ and freebies being given to our new arrivals while they work

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ha! 

Yes we know you don't understand that a lot of education is done at local level decisions. You've proven time and again you have no clue. Maybe leave your house once in a while?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

Imagine trying to convince anyone that the teachers union , locally and nationally arent In lock step.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,918]

Lots of teachers are big 2a proponents and lots of teamsters are very concerned about lgbtq “rights”. They’re kinda the same these unions.