Strike 5,553 Posted December 2, 2024 I'm just happy to know Hunter is so grateful for this second chance and vows not to take it for granted. Reminds me of O.J. promising to bring the REAL killers to justice: https://x.com/mviser/status/1863383976922038385 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted December 2, 2024 32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Why do you find my take idiotic? You object to it because he lied about it - not because it is corrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 2, 2024 Okay here’s a Biden story that actually still matters. It’s bullsh1t. I’d like to see a constitutional amendment to limit the president’s pardon powers. Maybe get rid of them altogether? It’s just ripe for abuse, including here 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Strike said: So question for our lib friends here at the GC - Worms, the Timmay's, Honcho, etc.... - Do you think Joe was telling the truth for the last 4+ years when he said he would not pardon Hunter and just changed his mind or do you think he intended to pardon him if needed the entire time? He probably always intended to do it. Maybe there was an agreement with Kamala that if she won, she’d pardon him if she had to (like if he was going to actually go to prison or something) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted December 2, 2024 Nate Silver going ballistic about this. Damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,438 Posted December 2, 2024 23 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: You object to it because he lied about it - not because it is corrupt. Tim thinks he is the arbiter of what is moral and what isn’t. Like all leftists. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted December 2, 2024 Joe should also pardon all the J6 defendants in the name of fairness. They all did less treasonous things than Hunter anyways. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted December 2, 2024 It's a good thing Trump never pardoned any hardened crooks at the end of his first term. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted December 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Strike said: So question for our lib friends here at the GC - Worms, the Timmay's, Honcho, etc.... - Do you think Joe was telling the truth for the last 4+ years when he said he would not pardon Hunter and just changed his mind or do you think he intended to pardon him if needed the entire time? "I want ice cream, Do you... where.... have you got ice cream. Vanilla with caramel." "Here Joe sign this." "I'm going to need a new diaper too. Where's the obahtma tranny with the nice smelling hair?" :Joe, Hunter needs this, can you sign it for him, please. Here's a pen." "Vanilla with Caramel please. And the tranny and the cowfumdoup bedoo and the diaper and the vanilla and caramel ice cream.." "Sign this Joe. Take the pen. Good boy, you get a gold star and some ice cream!"" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Patented Phil said: You object to it because he lied about it - not because it is corrupt. That’s correct. Why do you regard this as idiotic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: That’s correct. Why do you regard this as idiotic? Because you are OK with Biden's getting millions of dollars from foreign governments who we then support in a war which we fund hundreds of billions of dollars and puts us on the brink of WWIII and your only problem is a lie. Your complete blind trust into our government institutions is what makes you idiotic. You are incapable of rationally looking at facts and coming to a conclusion yourself. You have to be told told what to think by some so-called 'trusted source'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,442 Posted December 2, 2024 I’m shocked I tell you. Shocked. Now go hit the showers with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 Would anyone of us not do this to protect our own son? Of course he did this, and some of us (notably myself) told you all he would months ago. Are we clairvoyant? No, we are realists. Further, we cannot forget that Hunter is the bad man, a pivot point for the Biden family criminal enterprise. He HAS to be protected to avoid the rest of their deeds being exposed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2024 I was really hoping he would get convicted so it would goto the supreme court and eventually remove self incrimination from the application Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 2, 2024 The hypocrisy here is hilarious. You choads are obsessed with Hunter Biden. Petty criminal hunter Biden who you tried to prosecute for years, it kills you that he's not in jail, hilarious. Meanwhile Trump pardoned far worse including his own family. Clown show. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted December 2, 2024 19 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: The hypocrisy here is hilarious. You choads are obsessed with Hunter Biden. Petty criminal hunter Biden who you tried to prosecute for years, it kills you that he's not in jail, hilarious. Meanwhile Trump pardoned far worse including his own family. Clown show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted December 2, 2024 56 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: The hypocrisy here is hilarious. You choads are obsessed with Hunter Biden. Petty criminal hunter Biden who you tried to prosecute for years, it kills you that he's not in jail, hilarious. Meanwhile Trump pardoned far worse including his own family. Clown show. "Petty" This Phanny guy is homo for Hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted December 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, jbycho said: "Petty" This Phanny guy is homo for Hunter. Petty criminals often need 11 years of criminal activity pardoned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: The hypocrisy here is hilarious. You choads are obsessed with Hunter Biden. Petty criminal hunter Biden who you tried to prosecute for years, it kills you that he's not in jail, hilarious. Meanwhile Trump pardoned far worse including his own family. Clown show. Hunter was always the means to get to the heart of Joe's crimes. This is how the DOJ has always handled organized crime, so the strategy fit. Hunter was a rather easy target and there was obvious deference toward him overall that made it even easier to get after him later. Not surprised he got a pardon, none of us should be, this was always going to happen. The problem here, mostly for liberals, will be the precedent it sets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted December 2, 2024 8 minutes ago, RLLD said: The problem here, mostly for liberals, will be the precedent it sets. Several other presidents have pardoned family members. Trump pardoned Charles Kushner for witness tampering, tax evasion and illegal campaign contributions in 2020. He named him ambassador to France yesterday. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 Just now, MDC said: Several other presidents have pardoned family members. Trump pardoned Charles Kushner for witness tampering, tax evasion and illegal campaign contributions in 2020. He named him ambassador to France yesterday. I can recall one other instance of a President pardoning a family member, but setting aside the irrelevant for a moment. I can see how this could open up an avenue for Trump to pardon himself. And I think we can all agree, we would oppose that. SO, take a few minutes today to not be a retarded child, and take this a little more seriously, if you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 2, 2024 17 minutes ago, RLLD said: Hunter was always the means to get to the heart of Joe's crimes. This is how the DOJ has always handled organized crime, so the strategy fit. Hunter was a rather easy target and there was obvious deference toward him overall that made it even easier to get after him later. Not surprised he got a pardon, none of us should be, this was always going to happen. The problem here, mostly for liberals, will be the precedent it sets. What precedent? Pardoning family members? It's already been set, your boy Trump did it 4 years ago, and others before him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 I had no doubt this would happen, Imagine anyone believing the pledge made by a politician. I think most simply did not believe Biden's statements on this which is why, of course, the press asked about this over and over, the pledge was not believable and so now here we have the proof of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 2, 2024 21 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Petty criminals often need 11 years of criminal activity pardoned. It's because Trump was going to going after him, he's protecting him 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: What precedent? Pardoning family members? It's already been set, your boy Trump did it 4 years ago, and others before him. As I noted above, I could see how Trump might now pardon himself.... I think that is a real outcome potential at this juncture, and I think we can all agree that we would NOT support that. Well, for people such as yourself you wont support it for a Republican, the adults here would not support for either party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: It's because Trump was going to going after him, he's protecting him I understand you have been indoctrinated to think this way, there is no truth to it, but your position here is ideologically aligned with your leftist indoc. This is NOT the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: It's because Trump was going to going after him, he's protecting him Has Trump implied or indicated he would go after Hunter? If the worry is about who Trump might go after why not pardon Jill, and Joe's brother as well as Trump might go after them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: I can recall one other instance of a President pardoning a family member, but setting aside the irrelevant for a moment. I can see how this could open up an avenue for Trump to pardon himself. And I think we can all agree, we would oppose that. SO, take a few minutes today to not be a retarded child, and take this a little more seriously, if you can. Trump pardoned Charles Kushner in 2020 and just appointed him as ambassador to France yesterday. I don’t remember your complaints about “precedent” then. I wonder why? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 2, 2024 Not surprised that the biggest hacks on this site - mdc, gutter, honcho, etc. are not only ok with this, they are defending it. Also, this isn't about taxes and guns. Joe is protecting his own rear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 228 Posted December 2, 2024 I expected this. I'm more upset over open borders, inflation, crime, political persecutions, & covid lies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 I remember the prosecutions of Hunter Biden being touted as proof the DOJ was impartial, as proof the prosecutions of Trump were not lawfare. That "proof" seemed weak when Hunter's first plea deal, the one rejected by the judge as unconscionably insignificant in scope of punishment and responsibility came to light. The "proof" seems weaker still in the light of this poardon, a pardon pledged not to be coming as the candidate was trying to sell himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,535 Posted December 2, 2024 21 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: It's because Trump was going to going after him, he's protecting him Yep, just like he "went after" hilary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 20 minutes ago, MDC said: Trump pardoned Charles Kushner in 2020 and just appointed him as ambassador to France yesterday. I don’t remember your complaints about “precedent” then. I wonder why? Because that was irrelevant, is there ANHY hope...at all....that you can grow up? Maybe a little, and take this a little more seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted December 2, 2024 10 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I remember the prosecitions of Hunter Biden being touted as proof the DOJ was impartial, as proof the prosecutions of Trump were not lawfare. That "proof" seemed weak when Hunter's first plea deal, the one rejected by the judge as unconscionably insignificant in scope of punishment and responsibility came to light. The "proof" seems weaker still in the light of this poardon, a pardon pledged not to be coming as the candidate was trying to sell himself. This entire thing was silly to begin with, prosecuting for tax evasion from 2017/2018, when he had already paid all the penalties. I read stats that said over 95% of similar cases wouldn't be charged once the penalties were paid. This entire thing was the GOP screaming about Hunter and the fake Biden crime family, otherwise it would have been the biggest nothing burger ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Because that was irrelevant, is there ANHY hope...at all....that you can grow up? Maybe a little, and take this a little more seriously? Of course it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 Just now, MDC said: Of course it was. Well, you would have to use your brain, and given that your are rather consistent with stupidity, it makes sense that you are not getting it. Here, let me help you just a little. Biden just used the Trumpism that it was illegitimate prosecution to justify his actions, you stupid little sh!t......any thoughts on using that as a reason? Any at all? Use your focking brain for a change..... Now, Trump can point back to that and pardon himself later...... You think he wont? Really? Are you that focking stupid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted December 2, 2024 9 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Okay here’s a Biden story that actually still matters. It’s bullsh1t. I’d like to see a constitutional amendment to limit the president’s pardon powers. Maybe get rid of them altogether? It’s just ripe for abuse, including here I would support this 100%. This pardon power is misused and should be abolished 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,264 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said: The hypocrisy here is hilarious. You choads are obsessed with Hunter Biden. Petty criminal hunter Biden who you tried to prosecute for years, it kills you that he's not in jail, hilarious. Meanwhile Trump pardoned far worse including his own family. Clown show. I actually like the idea that now Hunter can testify and can no longer plea the fifth since he can't be incriminated. Maybe this is just cope idk. Will have to see how it plays out. I'm not surprised. I'm not enraged by it. I would expect a career politician father to do this for their son. Hopefully we can reduce the corruption during this term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: I would support this 100%. This pardon power is misused and should be abolished This might reduce the pool of folks willing to run for president as well as those willing to serve in an administration. Then again, who knows, maybe it would not. I know the founders had some conceerns along these lines, but who knows how it would work in practice unless we actually implement it. Would you eliminate the power entirely, or just as to members of the presidential family, administration, and donors? Meaning what about those requests from convicts wholy unassociated with the administration. There are always a few such applications that may have some merit, you know, actual miscarriages of justices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted December 2, 2024 11 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: This entire thing was silly to begin with, prosecuting for tax evasion from 2017/2018, when he had already paid all the penalties. I read stats that said over 95% of similar cases wouldn't be charged once the penalties were paid. This entire thing was the GOP screaming about Hunter and the fake Biden crime family, otherwise it would have been the biggest nothing burger ever. Now do the gun crimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites