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In the Big Beautiful Bill (this is the name we are going with 😂) is a plan to sell off between 2-3 million acres of public lands.

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There has to be a better way to get money than this.

What say you.

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Not a fan. Let’s confiscate the Chinese owned farmland  first and go from there

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As a conservative, I prefer we conserve public land.  

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I think this is an issue that all it needs is publicity and it will get tabled. Like the Montana Senator (and former Secretary of Interior) did for his state getting Montana land removed from this.

There are serious budget issues and revenue needs to be found but this is a terrible way to get it.

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 Really bad idea. I consider them sacred land. No.

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1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

Not a fan. Let’s confiscate the Chinese owned farmland  first and go from there

Yep. We need to outlaw Chinese companies taking ownership in American land. 

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13 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

No. Who wants this? 

Apparently nobody. 

Utah Senator Mike Lee is the one whose name I have seen attached to it he is the chair of some committee that deals with this type of thing.

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1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Apparently nobody. 

Utah Senator Mike Lee is the one whose name I have seen attached to it he is the chair of some committee that deals with this type of thing.

I usually agree with Mike Lee. This seems to be a rare issue both sides agree on

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30 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

I usually agree with Mike Lee. This seems to be a rare issue both sides agree on

Hopefully this gets stripped out. Not really seeing this story making headlines unfortunately.

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2 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Yep. We need to outlaw Chinese companies taking ownership in American land. 

agree with this completely

and Bill Gates

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Where can I find a list of the land that’s being sold, I’m paying.

 

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1 hour ago, weepaws said:

Where can I find a list of the land that’s being sold, I’m paying.

 

I’m guessing there’s plenty of land already for sale if you are looking.

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Yeah, not a fan of that at all and I'm 100% against foreign ownership of any American land and I'm 100% against corporations owning residential homes.

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So one of the bullshitt lines that they are taking is that this sale is for the housing crisis. They will build affordable homes out in these areas 😂 Pathetic lie.

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Public land is sold off to developers everywhere everyday. Where I'm at there's more demand than supply, all of my properties have at least doubled in value over the past 6 years. I've sold many off already and am possibly to selling a ranch in GA to a developer.  

 

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I am opposed to this idea.  That said, if it comes to pass I will certainly look at what is for sale in Colorado or Wyoming.  Something not too far off current roadways with a bit of trees and some water, either a lake or a stream would have me interested.

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On 6/20/2025 at 10:11 AM, HellToupee said:

Not a fan. Let’s confiscate the Chinese owned farmland  first and go from there

Yep. Eminent Domain those commie focks. Leave public land public. 

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The nation sells public land all the time. I often check the Michigan DNR for land.

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The biggest land owner in the country is the govt. The land being proposed has been leased out before.  It depends for how much, what for and to who.

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I am one of the only that is for this, there is no reason why people shouldn't be able to buy land from the govt, that also should keep the costs lower as well

 

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This opens up after 10 years the sale of these lands for anything. Hundreds of millions of acres. I don’t trust that to end well. 

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I imagine that these lands have already been spoken for and a person thinking they're going to get "the old homestead" straight from the government is dreaming.  

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No. If anything we need to take back some of the land we’ve let foreign countries like China buy 

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It depends. If it's any land that hasnt been developed yet, then I'm a no. From what I understand it was a very small amount and it wasn't a preserve or anything like that. Not 100% sure on what the specifics are.

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I’ve been wanting to buy up farmland and turn it back to native prairie grass. Sooo expensive though. 

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On 6/21/2025 at 4:19 PM, thegeneral said:

So one of the bullshitt lines that they are taking is that this sale is for the housing crisis. They will build affordable homes out in these areas 😂 Pathetic lie.

This is absurdity. As a guy from the upper midwest that was fortunate enough to live on the west coast/southwest for years, I marveled at how much public land there was and spent a lot of time enjoying it. It's amazing for recreation; but not much else. Affordable housing in this country is an oxymoron until 3D printed homes or some other alternative become more widely produced. Builders won't touch "affordable housing" because they can't turn a big enough profit to make it worthwhile. And if Trump has told us anything about himself, it's that he's profit-driven.

This land will all end up in the hands of corporations run by donors.

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51 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This is absurdity. As a guy from the upper midwest that was fortunate enough to live on the west coast/southwest for years, I marveled at how much public land there was and spent a lot of time enjoying it. It's amazing for recreation; but not much else. Affordable housing in this country is an oxymoron until 3D printed homes or some other alternative become more widely produced. Builders won't touch "affordable housing" because they can't turn a big enough profit to make it worthwhile. And if Trump has told us anything about himself, it's that he's profit-driven.

This land will all end up in the hands of corporations run by donors.

Yep. In the case of Washington some of the areas that would be left exposed are crazy. Super pristine areas. In those cases I think there would be riots if they tried to sell them.

The Montana guy got his state removed from the list which I’d like someone to explain why and how that worked.

If there are some plots of land in areas that are adjacent to existing home sites that could be explored but this needs to be done very slowly and thoughtfully. 

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Just now, thegeneral said:

Yep. In the case of Washington some of the areas that would be left exposed are crazy. Super pristine areas. In those cases I think there would be riots if they tried to sell them.

The Montana guy got his state removed from the list which I’d like someone to explain why and how that worked.

If there are some plots of land in areas that are adjacent to existing home sites that could be explored but this needs to be done very slowly and thoughtfully. 

Good thing our POTUS is so renowned for his even-keeled and patiently deliberate demeanor.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Good thing our POTUS is so renowned for his even-keeled and patiently deliberate demeanor.

He’s quite the known outdoorsman! I’ll blame this one on greed and slipping it in while Republicans have power. Hopefully it is scrutinized enough to keep it less drastic.

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4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He’s quite the known outdoorsman! I’ll blame this one on greed and slipping it in while Republicans have power. Hopefully it is scrutinized enough to keep it less drastic.

Hopefully. If there's one thing we can get the far left tree-hugging dirt worshippers and the far right arsenal-owning militia types on the same page about, it's love and reverence for the outdoors and mother nature. It's the venn intersection of "save the one-eyed mutant radioactive snail!" and "pack up your bandoliers, we gonna kill everything!"

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On 6/20/2025 at 10:11 AM, HellToupee said:

Not a fan. Let’s confiscate the Chinese owned farmland  first and go from there

Great idea!  Right after Trump allows the TikTok ban.  :o 

On 6/20/2025 at 11:16 AM, Hawkeye21 said:

I hate it.  We need more public land, not less.

Well... The Feds own over 38% of AZ.  That's absurd.  I'd need to see what's planned for AZ sale before I render an opinion.

Also, looking at the map of eligible land in the OP link:  I wonder how much an Aleutian Island would cost?  That would be better than, say, buying a star IMO.  

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Great idea!  Right after Trump allows the TikTok ban.  :o 

Well... The Feds own over 38% of AZ.  That's absurd.  I'd need to see what's planned for AZ sale before I render an opinion.

Also, looking at the map of eligible land in the OP link:  I wonder how much an Aleutian Island would cost?  That would be better than, say, buying a star IMO.  

I'd like to see that land go to the state and manage it as a public wildlife area.

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5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'd like to see that land go to the state and manage it as a public wildlife area.

Well, that's not going to generate much revenue for the feds... biggest use for some of the land in AZ is probably mining.  Some company just bought land east of Phoenix for a copper mine; the Apaches claim it was an ancient burial ground (the tribes always do this), but remarkably, the 9th Circuit narrowly approved it.

Mining, of course, can come with some significant environmental concerns, so I hope this is monitored closely.  But, we do need more copper. :dunno: 

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50 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well... The Feds own over 38% of AZ.  

And every square inch is glorious and should remain unspoiled. Recreational opportunities on that land and some family burial sites are literally the only reason I'll ever return to AZ. 

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