NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 I've been trying to tell anyone who would listen that Toto's Steve Lukather is the best guitarist of all-time, but because his name isn't Clapton, Van Halen, or Hendrix, no one would buy it. Well, 40 million people voted and Lukather was named rock music's all-time greatest guitarist. http://votenumber1.com/results1rockguitarist.html Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 I don't recall any serious guitar riffs on "I guess it raaaaaiiiinnnss down in Africaaaaa" Faagotty Muzak band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 Oh yeah, he's a rocker. El Gordo Mariachi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 10, 2008 Well, for starters, Brian May is better than Lukather. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted March 10, 2008 Nobody cares about dinosaur rock. Worst era of music evah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 10, 2008 OK....this is complete BS. First off...there's NO way Richie freakin Sambora is a better rock guitarist than Eddie. 2ndly, Stevie Ray Vaugh is ELIMINATED? Puhlease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 Maybe you should all reread the results. 40 million people voted and Lukather was number one. It's not my problem that you've all been brainwashed into thinking that Eric Clapton is so great. The more you protest and discredit Lukather, the mosre it becomes obvious that you know nothing about music. Steve Lukather- Rock music's all-time greatest guitarist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 Maybe you should all reread the results. 40 million people voted and Lukather was number one. It's not my problem that you've all been brainwashed into thinking that Eric Clapton is so great. The more you protest and discredit Lukather, the mosre it becomes obvious that you know nothing about music. Steve Lukather- Rock music's all-time greatest guitarist. "I guess it raaaaaiiiinnssss down in africa...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 833 Posted March 10, 2008 yeah great survey....5th Place Richie Sambora.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 527 Posted March 10, 2008 He's a very good guitarist. Just because his band went back and forth between rock and pop doesn't make it less so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,664 Posted March 10, 2008 Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfocker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 He's a very good guitarist. Just because his band went back and forth between rock and pop doesn't make it less so. yeah, well, Mike Vick may be really fast, but that doesn't mean jack shiit if all the plays are passing plays. Sure don't remember him being overly challenged with the likes of Africa and Rosanna. What great rock guitar riffs has this gone done?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 He's a very good guitarist. Just because his band went back and forth between rock and pop doesn't make it less so. FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO HASN'T BOUGHT INTO THE PROPOGANDA AND CAN RECOGNIZE TALENT! No one's saying that Toto is better than Zepellin. Relax people. It's just their guitarists. Worldwide, Luke was voted the best. Keep in mind that bands that are globally successful (Toto is huge in Europe and the Middle East), get more love than nationally famous guys. I'm prett sure that Stevie Ray Vaughn was only big in the US. If I'm not mistaken, Bon Jovi is also big worldide, which explains Sambora's good showing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,664 Posted March 10, 2008 What great rock guitar riffs has this gone done?? ENGLISH, MOTHERFOCKER! DO-YOU-SPEAK-IT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 yeah, well, Mike Vick may be really fast, but that doesn't mean jack shiit if all the plays are passing plays. Sure don't remember him being overly challenged with the likes of Africa and Rosanna. What great rock guitar riffs has this gone done?? You're sounding less and less knowledgable with each post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 3 Posted March 10, 2008 So it was a worldwide vote. Is it safe to assume that the people who worship david hasseloff are the ones who participated in this poll? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted March 10, 2008 at that poll. sambora right behind hendrix and page. obviously! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 You're sounding less and less knowledgable with each post. So, you can't name a single song, a single riff even that highlights this guy's supposed "skill?" Excellent. However, whoever plays the electronic organ for "Toto" is just really really talented. I bet he got first prize at all his recitals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 ENGLISH, MOTHERFOCKER! DO-YOU-SPEAK-IT? Que? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nospk 230 Posted March 10, 2008 they also voted Jerry Lewis the greatest actor of all-time. BFD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,180 Posted March 10, 2008 What about that kid with the banjo in Deliverance, he was money..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 527 Posted March 10, 2008 yeah, well, Mike Vick may be really fast, but that doesn't mean jack shiit if all the plays are passing plays. Sure don't remember him being overly challenged with the likes of Africa and Rosanna. What great rock guitar riffs has this gone done?? To be fair, Rosanna and Africa represent a very small sample of Toto's body of work. It would be like saying Jump and When It's Love represent Eddie Van Halen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 So, you can't name a single song, a single riff even that highlights this guy's supposed "skill?" Excellent. However, whoever plays the electronic organ for "Toto" is just really really talented. I bet he got first prize at all his recitals. Lukather started in the 70's as the most in-demand session guitarist in the industry. He's appeared on hundreds, no..make that thousands of songs you'd recognize. His work with Toto is just a tiny percentage of the work he's done. He won a Grammy for Best Instrumemntal album for a 2002 album he made with Larry Carlton. His best known "riff" is the one in Beat It. Everyone thinks that Eddie Van Halen does the riff, but he just does the solo. He also played lead on Talk To Ya Later by the Tubes. He also played all guitars on Boz Scaggs' excellent Silk Degrees album. Check out Lido Shuffle if you want to hear his work. Here's a discography of albums he's appeared on: http://www.stevelukather.net/Discography.aspx Not knowing the guy's work isn't a very strong argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 Here's Luke doing "Little Wing" Don't try this at home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted March 10, 2008 I don't see his name in these lists of greatest rock guitarist: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/593...sts_of_all_time http://www.rateitall.com/t-1785-best-guita...0&pagenum=1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 Lukather started in the 70's as the most in-demand session guitarist in the industry. He's appeared on hundreds, no..make that thousands of songs you'd recognize. His work with Toto is just a tiny percentage of the work he's done.He won a Grammy for Best Instrumemntal album for a 2002 album he made with Larry Carlton. His best known "riff" is the one in Beat It. Everyone thinks that Eddie Van Halen does the riff, but he just does the solo. He also played lead on Talk To Ya Later by the Tubes. He also played all guitars on Boz Scaggs' excellent Silk Degrees album. Check out Lido Shuffle if you want to hear his work. Here's a discography of albums he's appeared on: http://www.stevelukather.net/Discography.aspx Not knowing the guy's work isn't a very strong argument. Ahhh, excellent. - Cause I don't know about you all, but when I think of ROCK - I denfinitely think of Michael Jackson, Boz Scaggs, Toto and Larry Carlton. The REAL Monsters of Rock right there dontcha know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 Ahhh, excellent. - Cause I don't know about you all, but when I think of ROCK - I denfinitely think of Michael Jackson, Boz Scaggs, Toto and Larry Carlton. The REAL Monsters of Rock right there dontcha know! Oooh. Can I play? Bill Russell can't be one of the best basketball players of all-time, because I don't know anything about him Wow. Ignorance is a really cool way to make a point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted March 10, 2008 Oooh. Can I play? Bill Russell can't be one of the best basketball players of all-time, because I don't know anything about him Wow. Ignorance is a really cool way to make a point. Hey - I gave you repeated chances to showcase his best ROCK work. - And you pull out boz scaggs? Jacko? Geebus. Dude's a talented guitarist, granted. But a rock guitarist? My guy blows yours away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 Hey - I gave you repeated chances to showcase his best ROCK work. - And you pull out boz scaggs? Jacko? Geebus. Dude's a talented guitarist, granted. But a rock guitarist? My guy blows yours away. Did you check out the Little Wing YouTube link? I could post fifty more if you'd like, but you'd rather keep mentioning "Africa", which I don't know if it even has any guitar in it. It's like saying Neil Peart isn't a good drummer because "Take Off" doesn't have good drums in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 833 Posted March 10, 2008 It's like saying Neil Peart isn't a good drummer because "Take Off" doesn't have good drums in it. coo-roo-coo-coo-coo-coo-coo-cooooooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted March 10, 2008 FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO HASN'T BOUGHT INTO THE PROPOGANDA AND CAN RECOGNIZE TALENT! No one's saying that Toto is better than Zepellin. Relax people. It's just their guitarists. Worldwide, Luke was voted the best. Keep in mind that bands that are globally successful (Toto is huge in Europe and the Middle East), get more love than nationally famous guys. I'm prett sure that Stevie Ray Vaughn was only big in the US. If I'm not mistaken, Bon Jovi is also big worldide, which explains Sambora's good showing. He just said he was very good, not the greatest ever. Hendrix #1 in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 10, 2008 He just said he was very good, not the greatest ever. Hendrix #1 in my book. Well, I don't think he was the best ever, either. The 40 m illion people in the poll do, but, liek I said, Toto has been huge in some countries for almost thirty years. I'm sure that's why he received so much support. I was just happy to see him get teh respect he deserves. Saying he's better than Clapton is like saying Walter Peyton is better than Jim Brown. It's totally objective and there's no definitive test to ever find out. I'm pretty sure that you could line up Lukather, Eddie Van Halen, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, etc., and each one of them could do things the others couldn't. I'm just happy to see him have his rightoeus place among the best in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 483 Posted March 10, 2008 Steve was a session player before Toto and has great chops. His musical relavance next to a Clapton or a Hendrix or his buddy Brian May comes up lacking however. Some of the other players on the list changed music forever (like an Eddie Van Halen or Hendrix). I wish I had his chops, but if I did I wouldn't belong on anybodes "best" list until I made a musical statement to match the flash-fingered talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 715 Posted March 10, 2008 Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfocker. Bacon tastes goooood, Pork Chops taste goood............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OakHeadFootball 1 Posted March 10, 2008 Buckethead > Toto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 721 Posted March 10, 2008 Lukather only wishes he was this good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted March 11, 2008 my boy...not even a fan of his band so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Landry 29 Posted March 11, 2008 That same website says that BON JOVI is the second greatest rock band ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gratefulted 14 Posted March 11, 2008 I saw Toto at a rock festival with Aerosmith, Van Halen, Cheap Trick, Mothers Finest, REO Speedwagon (they were pretty good then) and other bands I can't remember, He may not be the best but that dude played his ass off, I wasn't expecting much and was impressed, this was in the late '70's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted March 11, 2008 I've seen him play a few times and he's a killer guitarist, no doubt about it. When one talks about being the greatest rock guitarist, one needs to factor in other things than just skill or virtuosity. Guitar players like Hendrix, Clapton, Page, Beck, Santana, and others made lasting footprints in rock history. I'm sorry Newbie, but Lukather will never be thought of as anything other than just a great guitar player. Those other guys mentionned will be thought of as rock gods forever. Being in Toto and doing session work isn't enough to be called the best rock guitarist of all time. As far as defending this poll from this website, no way. Way too many huge discrepancies to give it legitimacy. Brian May and Lukater as numbers one and two make me think that some very like-minded people were driven to that poll, and skewed the result, or that website is somehow linked to a Toto site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites