The Dems are starting to push their Socialist agenda hard.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

During the campaign when I called Obama a Socialist and predicted he and the Demwits in Congress would push for Socialism if put into power the resident Demwits said I was wrong.

 

Looks like I was right. Barney Frank said at a news conference that executive pay limits may be extended to EVERY U.S. company.

 

"Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

 

'There's deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,' the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

 

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies."

 

Told ya so.

[tikigods 76]

Bush pushed his fascist agenda.

 

I told you so.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

How are they suppose to tax the rich when the Guberment wont allow anyone to be rich?

[tikigods 76]

The only thing Barney Frank pushes is stool back up his boyfriend's anus. HTH.

[BLS 313]

The only thing Barney Frank pushes is stool back up his boyfriend's anus. HTH.

 

 

 

Gawd I hate that f*cking guy.

[Voltaire 4,564]

No surprise here. They took over and have lots of pent up stuff they're going to roll out now that they can flex their muscles.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Good. I'm tired of watching companies lay off workers and move plants to Mexico to "cut costs" all the while flying around in private jets and drawing massive bonuses and salaries.

 

Fock em.

[RLLD 3,455]

Good. I'm tired of watching companies lay off workers and move plants to Mexico to "cut costs" all the while flying around in private jets and drawing massive bonuses and salaries.

 

Fock em.

 

The polarization of compensation has stepped beyond reasonable limits. Where companies do not/will not police themselves and take action to ensure the long term health of the organization, its investors, or the employee's one cannot fault government for stepping in to correct that particular concern.

 

[Saint Elistan 106]

The polarization of compensation has stepped beyond reasonable limits. Where companies do not/will not police themselves and take action to ensure the long term health of the organization, its investors, or the employee's one cannot fault government for stepping in to correct that particular concern.

 

 

 

If a company can't police themselves and maintain a healthy payroll, that company goes down the sh!tter. Not only should the Government refrain from saving these failing business, they have no focking right to do so with my tax dollars.

 

We've all been so caught up with how much pie other people are making that now we've got to share some of our own when the fockers broke the oven. So they get to eat our pie until they fix the oven...but if they get it fixed, the Government is going to put a limit on the number of pies they can bake a day?

 

That's just plain wrong. I don't recognize my country anymore.

[phillybear 364]

To the victor go the spoils. This country wanted a socialistic approach, and now we got it. That's what the voters chose. Now, we have to live with it. The intelligent folks can complain about it, but we still have to live with it.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Good. I'm tired of watching companies lay off workers and move plants to Mexico to "cut costs" all the while flying around in private jets and drawing massive bonuses and salaries.

 

Fock em.

 

.....wow missed this one.

 

Now we can watch the company's move to Europe. Not the plants, not the labor...the entire company. The only reason Europe is a less attractive business venture than the United States is because of Socialistic principles. Good thinking ya got there.

[mighty_thor 115]

Told ya so.

 

Your track record of predictions around here is too weak for you to ever use that sentence.

 

So you still think Niger sold Iraq Uranuim?

Still think the economy is doing great?

 

LOL!

[Saint Elistan 106]

You've been wrong before so even if you're right I'm still going to avoid the topic at hand because I'm shocked and appalled at how stoopid I was for voting in a Socialist majority.

 

Fixt.

[cmh6476 757]

I don't believe there should be blanket limits on executive pay. However, I'm still on the fence about whether there should be caps on executives that take bailout funds, I'd probably be ok with that if they are asking for govt handouts to keep their enterprise afloat.

[Saint Elistan 106]

However, I'm still on the fence about whether there should be caps on executives that take bailout funds, I'd probably be ok with that if they are asking for govt handouts to keep their enterprise afloat.

 

I'm torn as well. It's a gateway to the blanket of all business like Frank is suggesting...on the other hand, I didn't want them to get federal funds in the first place and support any initiative to ensure they spend the money properly.

[mighty_thor 115]

Its not socialism if the companies have a choice. If they don't want caps then give the money back to the feds.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Is nobody else sick of hearing "Due to slow __ quarter projections, _____ Corp. is planning on laying off _,000 U.S. jobs."

 

You never hear them say "Due to slow _ quarter projections, the executives of __ Corp. have decided to forgoe their bonus checks this year."

 

The execs have been strangling and buttfocking the goose that lays the golden eggs for years, and its high time the goose bit back.

[FeelingMN 273]

"Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

 

'There's deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,' the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

 

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies."

 

The bolded part is the only actual quote from that lispy queer. The rest of it is a quote from the article source.......wherever that's from.

 

As it's stated above, I don't think the average American would allow that sh!t to happen. Seriously, I will probably never come close to pulling six figures and I am adamantly against this. But before we get all worked up over this, let's see something where the context and details are provided.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Its not socialism if the companies have a choice. If they don't want caps then give the money back to the feds.

 

We're talking about companies not receiving federal funds.

[KSB2424 3,083]

The polarization of compensation has stepped beyond reasonable limits. Where companies do not/will not police themselves and take action to ensure the long term health of the organization, its investors, or the employee's one cannot fault government for stepping in to correct that particular concern.

While you may have a point here it still opens up a can of worms fundamentally. We all know that if you give the gov't a inch they will take a yard.

 

And there is an underlying issue with socialistic agendas like this one. Frankly, why would anyone want to succeed anymore? If the gov't will cap your earnings. If the gov't will tax you more based upon financial success. If you are made to feel guilty. Then what is the motivation? I can see a time in the next couple years where people will be turning down pay raises because they don't want to make more money to get in a certain tax bracket where they will be punished. Capitalism, while a side effect is in fact greed, also breeds innovation, work ethic, and a reward for hard work.

 

Just the thought of the Gov't able to put a cap on a private company gives me the creeps.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

While you may have a point here it still opens up a can of worms fundamentally. We all know that if you give the gov't a inch they will take a yard.

 

And there is an underlying issue with socialistic agendas like this one. Frankly, why would anyone want to succeed anymore? If the gov't will cap your earnings. If the gov't will tax you more based upon financial success. If you are made to feel guilty. Then what is the motivation? I can see a time in the next couple years where people will be turning down pay raises because they don't want to make more money to get in a certain tax bracket where they will be punished. Capitalism, while a side effect is in fact greed, also breeds innovation, work ethic, and a reward for hard work.

 

Just the thought of the Gov't able to put a cap on a private company gives me the creeps.

 

I don't support a cap on earnings. If you invent something, or start a company that does something better, by all means, make all you can.

 

What I am sick of is these focking executives who get hired to 8 and 9 figure deals, tank the company (usually with some fraud involved), lay off thousands of honest workers and glide away on their golden parachutes.

 

The employees of companies should be getting a larger piece of the pie, and the mercenary CEO's less.

[NewbieJr 540]

And there is an underlying issue with socialistic agendas like this one. Frankly, why would anyone want to succeed anymore? If the gov't will cap your earnings. If the gov't will tax you more based upon financial success. If you are made to feel guilty. Then what is the motivation?

Because they will still be driving Jaguars and living in gated mansions as opposed to scraping by week to week hoping they don't get their utilities shut off. So they get a cap so that they don't have billions, only hundreds of millions. Big deal. If it means that there wouldn't be such a large poverty-level, it would be the right call. I'd say their lifestyle is a pretty good incentive.

 

If it doesn't bother people that companies are looking for bailout money and their owners and CEO's are flying private planes and getting million dollar bonuses, then they just don't get it.

[phillybear 364]

Is nobody else sick of hearing "Due to slow __ quarter projections, _____ Corp. is planning on laying off _,000 U.S. jobs."

 

You never hear them say "Due to slow _ quarter projections, the executives of __ Corp. have decided to forgoe their bonus checks this year."

 

The execs have been strangling and buttfocking the goose that lays the golden eggs for years, and its high time the goose bit back.

 

Some of these executives only receive bonuses. They might earn 10 grand in salary, and the rest is incentive based bonuses.

 

For fock's sake, one of the Ten Commandments is to not covet your neighbor's possessions. Jealousy is a basic human sin, and that is just as bad as greed. So those that take a holier than thou approach to rich businessmen really need to do some soul searching.

[phillybear 364]

If it doesn't bother people that companies are looking for bailout money and their owners and CEO's are flying private planes and getting million dollar bonuses, then they just don't get it.

 

Don't give them money. Problem solved. Our thick headed president doesn't seem to understand the concept of if you stick your d!ck into an electrical outlet and get shocked, stop doing it.

[mighty_thor 115]

We're talking about companies not receiving federal funds.

 

That would be socialism but Barney Frank is one person and it would never pass.

[KSB2424 3,083]

If it doesn't bother people that companies are looking for bailout money and their owners and CEO's are flying private planes and getting million dollar bonuses, then they just don't get it.

I think we are talking about two different things.

 

If a private company accepts billions of dollars from a gov't "bailout", then I certainly think there should be strings attached to those monies. I'm with you there. If the company didn't want the gov't in their business then they should have not accepted the bailout.

 

However, it should stop there. This thread is more about how they are now employing a blanket cap on all executive pay. Even for companies that accepted NO bailout money from the gov't. That is wholly wrong in my eyes and the first sign of a socialistic agenda being put into place. No way the gov't should be able to do that.

[Strike 3,982]

I think we are talking about two different things.

 

If a private company accepts billions of dollars from a gov't "bailout", then I certainly think there should be strings attached to those monies. I'm with you there. If the company didn't want the gov't in their business then they should have not accepted the bailout.

 

However, it should stop there. This thread is more about how they are now employing a blanket cap on all executive pay. Even for companies that accepted NO bailout money from the gov't. That is wholly wrong in my eyes and the first sign of a socialistic agenda being put into place. No way the gov't should be able to do that.

 

I don't think they've done it yet. It's just being discussed.

[patweisers44 697]

We all know that if you give the gov't a inch they will take a yard.

..and if you give Barney Frank an inch, he'll beg for 6 more.

[edjr 5,570]

..and if you give Barney Frank an 6 inches, he'll beg for 6 more.

 

 

[itsbigmoni 1]

This was one person throwing a stupid suggestion out there. No way this gets passed. Sure, there are thousands of idiots who want to stick it to the man and would support any tax, cap, or any other form of taking money from the rich, but i have faith in our country and think people will not stand for government capping a successfully run business salaries.

 

I think we're all in agreement with the stance its ok to cap salary of executives from companies that received bailout money, but not other businesses.

[FlaHawker 24]

Is nobody else sick of hearing "Due to slow __ quarter projections, _____ Corp. is planning on laying off _,000 U.S. jobs."

 

You never hear them say "Due to slow _ quarter projections, the executives of __ Corp. have decided to forgoe their bonus checks this year."

 

The execs have been strangling and buttfocking the goose that lays the golden eggs for years, and its high time the goose bit back.

HI Barney

[Savage Beast 1]

Since the USA will be a poor 3rd world nation in a few years, we may have no choice but to turn to socialism?

[surferskin 30]

That would be socialism but Barney Frank is one person and it would never pass.

 

 

This was one person throwing a stupid suggestion out there. No way this gets passed. Sure, there are thousands of idiots who want to stick it to the man and would support any tax, cap, or any other form of taking money from the rich, but i have faith in our country and think people will not stand for government capping a successfully run business salaries.

 

I think we're all in agreement with the stance its ok to cap salary of executives from companies that received bailout money, but not other businesses.

 

Yeah, he's just one person.

 

This one person just happens to be the Chairman of the Financial Services Committee. No need to worry about this because you guys got faith.

[Greedo 13]

During the campaign when I called Obama a Socialist and predicted he and the Demwits in Congress would push for Socialism if put into power the resident Demwits said I was wrong.

 

Looks like I was right. Barney Frank said at a news conference that executive pay limits may be extended to EVERY U.S. company.

Told ya so.

 

I missed where Obama was quoted or mentioned in that article. Oops. You want to whine about Barney, go to Massachusetts and tell them they elected a nitwit. They'll love your politics there.

 

To the victor go the spoils. This country wanted a socialistic approach, and now we got it. That's what the voters chose. Now, we have to live with it. The intelligent folks can complain about it, but we still have to live with it.

 

You mean, unlike Bush's reign, where we socialized portions of the mortgage, insurance, and banking industries? Try again.

 

Its not socialism if the companies have a choice. If they don't want caps then give the money back to the feds.

 

 

Problem is, many banks didn't want the TARP money - it was shoved down their throats.

 

Is nobody else sick of hearing "Due to slow __ quarter projections, _____ Corp. is planning on laying off _,000 U.S. jobs."

 

You never hear them say "Due to slow _ quarter projections, the executives of __ Corp. have decided to forgoe their bonus checks this year."

 

The execs have been strangling and buttfocking the goose that lays the golden eggs for years, and its high time the goose bit back.

 

My company's senior management (a $65 billion bank) are foregoing their bonuses this year. You don't hear about it from the damn media because it isn't a headline screamer. The press, as always, is to blame for where they point their lens.

[KSB2424 3,083]

You mean, unlike Bush's reign, where we socialized portions of the mortgage, insurance, and banking industries? Try again.

Why do people constantly bring up Bush like this is a focking "Yo Mama" joke back and forth.

 

A whole lot of Repubs hated that Bush was for the bank bailout. itsatip

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I missed where Obama was quoted or mentioned in that article. Oops.

 

I guess you missed Obama saying he wanted pay caps on firms taking bailout funds. That was the first step toward his socialist goal, Barney is just taking the second step. This is why I said "Obama and the Demwits in Congress".

 

Simple enough fer ya?

[Greedo 13]

Its not socialism if the companies have a choice. If they don't want caps then give the money back to the feds.

 

Let me AGAIN quote mighty thor, RP. Please review what Obama said, then consult your dictionary.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I guess you missed Obama saying he wanted pay caps on firms taking bailout funds. That was the first step toward his socialist goal, Barney is just taking the second step. This is why I said "Obama and the Demwits in Congress".

 

Simple enough fer ya?

 

So, let me get this straight. You think that putting caps on companies who take government funds so that they don't take that dough and use it for bonuses (that should not be earned) or junkets for employees (that should be given) is "socialist"?

 

While there is too much pork in the bill, we cannot let the banking industry completely collapse. We need to regulate how that money is spent. Over-regulation is bad. No regulation is bad. Putting caps on execs that take this money is prudent.

[gocolts 300]

Why do people constantly bring up Bush like this is a focking "Yo Mama" joke back and forth.

 

A whole lot of Repubs hated that Bush was for the bank bailout. itsatip

 

That's how liberals debate. Emotions over facts is the only way they think they don't come across insane since their beliefs are so flawed and have been tried countless times in history only to have failed every time......and they know it. Even Obama is still gripping about Bush so this is evidently going to be their defense on everything. Hell, one crazy focker on this bored pretended to not know how giving every American over 5 grand would create a single job. Beyond belief.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

That's how liberals debate. Emotions over facts is the only way they think they don't come across insane since their beliefs are so flawed and have been tried countless times in history only to have failed every time......and they know it. Even Obama is still gripping about Bush so this is evidently going to be their defense on everything. Hell, one crazy focker on this bored pretended to not know how giving every American over 5 grand would create a single job. Beyond belief.

 

Oh go blow a goat.

 

The Republicans do the same sh!t. Hell, most of you were blaming sh!t on Clinton as recently as two months ago.

 

Let's try this...

 

 

BOTH PARTIES SUCK! NEITHER OF THEM GIVE A FOCK ABOUT YOU!

 

That is all.