why wont obama show his birth certificate

[posty 2,810]

OBAMA: "I've got better stuff to do."

 

And off to Chicago to tape an Oprah show...

[KSB2424 3,173]

:putsontinfoilhat:

 

[Lee Corso] Not so fast my friends! [Lee Corso]

 

Smoking Gun is on the case!@#! So heres a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:

 

If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

 

Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the Date Accepted by Local Reg. four days later on August 8, 1961?

 

What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

 

In the This Birth box there are two mysterious Xs above Twin and Triplet. Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

 

What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the documents right side?

 

Finally, the Signature of Local Registrar in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the documents Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: it is spelled Ukulele.

[posty 2,810]

And...

 

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/orly_taitz_obamas_long-form_birth_certificate_should_say_negro_not_african.php

 

In a development that will surprise no one, it turns out that President Barack Obama's decision to release his long-form birth certificate hasn't quieted members of the "birther" movement who promote the conspiracy theory that he wasn't born in the United States.

 

"Look, I applaud this release. I think it's a step in the right direction," so-called "birther queen" Orly Taitz told me in one of her many media interviews this morning. "I credit Donald Trump in pushing this issue."

 

But she still has her suspicions. Specifically, Taitz thinks that the birth certificate should peg Obama's race as "Negro" and not "African."

 

"In those years ... when they wrote race, they were writing 'Negro' not 'African'," Taitz says. "In those days nobody wrote African as a race, it just wasn't one of the options. It sounds like it would be written today, in the age of political correctness, and not in 1961 when they wrote white or Asian or 'Negro'."

 

Taitz says she's not giving up her fight. She also claims Obama isn't a "natural born citizen" because she uses a standard that requires both parents to be American citizens -- a misreading of the Constitution which if enforced would have rendered several other American Presidents ineligible.

 

Obama predicted this type of reaction from Taitz and those he described as "carnival barkers" in his comments to reporters on Wednesday.

 

"I know that there's going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest," Obama said. "We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve. And I'm confident we can solve them, but we're going to have to focus on them -- not on this."

[MDC 7,888]

And...

 

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/orly_taitz_obamas_long-form_birth_certificate_should_say_negro_not_african.php

 

In a development that will surprise no one, it turns out that President Barack Obama's decision to release his long-form birth certificate hasn't quieted members of the "birther" movement who promote the conspiracy theory that he wasn't born in the United States.

 

"Look, I applaud this release. I think it's a step in the right direction," so-called "birther queen" Orly Taitz told me in one of her many media interviews this morning. "I credit Donald Trump in pushing this issue."

 

But she still has her suspicions. Specifically, Taitz thinks that the birth certificate should peg Obama's race as "Negro" and not "African."

 

"In those years ... when they wrote race, they were writing 'Negro' not 'African'," Taitz says. "In those days nobody wrote African as a race, it just wasn't one of the options. It sounds like it would be written today, in the age of political correctness, and not in 1961 when they wrote white or Asian or 'Negro'."

 

Taitz says she's not giving up her fight. She also claims Obama isn't a "natural born citizen" because she uses a standard that requires both parents to be American citizens -- a misreading of the Constitution which if enforced would have rendered several other American Presidents ineligible.

 

Obama predicted this type of reaction from Taitz and those he described as "carnival barkers" in his comments to reporters on Wednesday.

 

"I know that there's going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest," Obama said. "We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve. And I'm confident we can solve them, but we're going to have to focus on them -- not on this."

 

[posty 2,810]

 

BTW, here is Cronkite announcing Martin Luther King's death on TV...

 

 

"39-year-old Negro leader"...

 

She is a loon, but she does have a point...

[Frank M 181]

:putsontinfoilhat:

 

[Lee Corso] Not so fast my friends! [Lee Corso]

 

Smoking Gun is on the case!@#! So here's a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:

 

 

 

 

I'm sure our resident genius is on the case as well. According to him, things like this are being discussed at the highest levels on some messageboards.

[IMMensaMind 462]

 

I'm sure our resident genius is on the case as well. According to him, things like this are being discussed at the highest levels on some messageboards.

 

Keep on keepin' on, skankulus. You've intentionally misrepresented my position in order to convince yourself you're winning for a while now; no need to stop now!

 

I certainly hope this pasttime of yours isn't focking with your "scientific" endeavors and all...

[drobeski 3,061]

 

I'm sure our resident genius is on the case as well. According to him, things like this are being discussed at the highest levels on some messageboards.

sorry I'm a Lil busy ..

[Frank M 181]

Keep on keepin' on, skankulus. You've intentionally misrepresented my position in order to convince yourself you're winning for a while now; no need to stop now!

 

I certainly hope this pasttime of yours isn't focking with your "scientific" endeavors and all...

 

 

From this very thread

 

So, I guess using your exact words is misrepresenting your position.

 

ETA Since it's at the bottom of one of your pedantic, droning posts, I'll quote the exact part:

 

I'm sure you're not. The most information I've found on this topic is at the Sean Hannity website forum, where there are people literally obsessed with this topic. There is a ton of information available there that I hadn't seen before; many knowledgeable people and a couple of kooks (on both sides of the political spectrum). Nonetheless, the conversations on this topic there take place at the highest levels:

 

[Mungwater 601]

Birthers are the same level if retarded that 9/11 was an inside job and thar bush intentionally lied about WMDs

[IMMensaMind 462]

 

From this very thread

 

So, I guess using your exact words is misrepresenting your position.

 

ETA Since it's at the bottom of one of your pedantic, droning posts, I'll quote the exact part:

 

 

 

 

That's not the part that you misrepresent (and lol @ you trying to call one of my posts "pedantic" while using the word pedantic ). You have a doorknob up your ass about everything I write. That forum talks about the subject in depth. There are clearly people there who have devoted waaaay more time than any of us ever will to the subject, and talk about Vattels and other germane topics. That is what is meant by "at the highest levels".

 

If you can find another site which talks about the subject in as detailed and obscure a manner, I'll be surprised.

 

What you've tried to do is turn me into a birther, when I've repeatedly said that I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. It's impossible to be a birther while believing that Obama was born in Hawaii - but that doesn't stop you slimy leftists from doing the same immoral sh!t over and over again.

 

You are character assassins; you resent that which you do not possess yourself.

 

But you do what you gotta to keep convincing yourself you feel alright, Frank. I know how weak and soft you leftists are with that stuff. You need to self-affirm like babies need a nuk.

 

A funny:

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/afterbirthers-demand-to-see-obamas-placenta,6866/

[IMMensaMind 462]

Here's a question for those interested in continuing the conspiracy talk:

 

If this is just a scan of the original long form birth certificate, why does it contain Illustrator layers?

 

A non-birther asks the question

[posty 2,810]

Here's a question for those interested in continuing the conspiracy talk:

 

If this is just a scan of the original long form birth certificate, why does it contain Illustrator layers?

 

A non-birther asks the question

 

Saw something similar in email...

 

I noticed the possible "layers" in this document almost immediately. When I had the .pdf file of the BC open in my browser then used Command + Tab (on an Apple computer), to switch to another app, I noticed that the majority of the text disappeared. I recreated the effect numerous times. As others have suggested, when you open the BC in Acrobat (full version) and strip out the "Metadata" and "Deleted or cropped content" this SAME EXACT TEXT disappears leaving only a few bits of type, date stamps and all or part of three signatures: his mother, the attendant and the local registrar. Also, some of the digits used in the Aug. 8, 1961 date stamp disappear. The full background and the April 25, 2011 stamp remain. I am making no "birther" claims, but CLEARLY this document has been altered. If it had been photographed or scanned, the pixels containing all the information (the document background, the type, the signatures, date stamps and the check marks) would be part of ONE pixelated image. As someone who uses Photoshop/Adobe Creative Suite daily, it is my belief that had the BC been scanned or photographed, the layering would not happen. Again, I am making NO "birther" claims or conclusions. But I believe this document has been altered.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Saw something similar in email...

 

Here's my theory:

 

I think that Obama is focking with the same people to continue to use the issue to marginalize Republicans and simultaneously appear to be innocent completely. I think he purposely released a document with vector/editing layers.

 

I still think he's hiding quite a lot.

[Gepetto 1,454]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqUa_G1h3pw

[IAMWood 6]

 

No wonder our country is moving down the charts like a rock. Fools like you fools. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

 

[MDC 7,888]

Here's my theory:

 

I think that Obama is focking with the same people to continue to use the issue to marginalize Republicans and simultaneously appear to be innocent completely. I think he purposely released a document with vector/editing layers.

 

If this is true, Obama is a genius.

[Mike Honcho 5,435]

Here's my theory:

 

I think that Obama is focking with the same people to continue to use the issue to marginalize Republicans and simultaneously appear to be innocent completely. I think he purposely released a document with vector/editing layers.

 

I still think he's hiding quite a lot.

 

 

Or they could of used a scanner with optical character recognition.

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

Here's a question for those interested in continuing the conspiracy talk:

 

If this is just a scan of the original long form birth certificate, why does it contain Illustrator layers?

 

A non-birther asks the question

 

I just downloaded the pdf from 2 different news sources and opened it up in both illustrator and photoshop. The document does not contain any layers.

[Gepetto 1,454]

I just downloaded the pdf from 2 different news sources and opened it up in both illustrator and photoshop. The document does not contain any layers.

 

[Mike Honcho 5,435]

I just downloaded the pdf from 2 different news sources and opened it up in both illustrator and photoshop. The document does not contain any layers.

 

 

I opened one up and it did have layers, but looked like OCR, cause our scanner will do the same thing.

 

ETA: Try gov link...can't link it directly: http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+birth+certificate+pdf&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=

[Frank M 181]

That's not the part that you misrepresent (and lol @ you trying to call one of my posts "pedantic" while using the word pedantic ). You have a doorknob up your ass about everything I write. That forum talks about the subject in depth. There are clearly people there who have devoted waaaay more time than any of us ever will to the subject, and talk about Vattels and other germane topics. That is what is meant by "at the highest levels".

 

If you can find another site which talks about the subject in as detailed and obscure a manner, I'll be surprised.

 

Why would I want to do that? To see idiots continue to mentally masturbate over a non issue?

What you've tried to do is turn me into a birther, when I've repeatedly said that I believe Obama was born in Hawaii. It's impossible to be a birther while believing that Obama was born in Hawaii - but that doesn't stop you slimy leftists from doing the same immoral sh!t over and over again.

 

You are character assassins; you resent that which you do not possess yourself.

 

But you do what you gotta to keep convincing yourself you feel alright, Frank. I know how weak and soft you leftists are with that stuff. You need to self-affirm like babies need a nuk.

 

A funny:

 

http://www.theonion....-placenta,6866/

 

I love how birthers never admit that that's what they are. If you have some sort of deep-seated need to see Obama's long form birth certificate because you either don't think he was born here or he's hiding something, you're a birther.

 

Really, do you need me to assassinate your character? All you have to do is post something and the vast majority can see you're a retard.

 

My input is more akin to gilding the lily.

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

I opened one up and it did have layers, but looked like OCR, cause our scanner will do the same thing.

 

ETA: Try gov link...can't link it directly: http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+birth+certificate+pdf&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=

 

i can get the text to break into a separate layer by releasing the clipping masks. But illustrator does that with most scanned documents that contain text.

[Voltaire 5,491]

:lol:

[Sizzle 0]

:lol:

Obama releasing his long form birth certificate accomplished a few things simultaneously.

 

One, it stops the momentum that this silly charge was gaining around the country. The polls don't lie, and he was seriously beginning to be hurt by the constant bombardment of this issue.

Two, if the fringe right now want to claim it's a fake, it will keep the issue alive just enough for him to paint the entire right as a bunch of crazies with no ideas.

 

My gut tells me Obama doesn't want this issue to go away completely. He did however have to address it because it was beginning to take on a life of it's own. He has now taken back the high ground on the issue.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I know. I'm bored out of my skull. I'm even challenging RP when he's flat out admitted he's just trolling.

Bump to see if Medstoopid has caught on to this yet. Also, this will make it easier for him to pluck another quote of mine from this thread and attempt to twist it.

 

[Frank M 181]

Did they discuss this important issue at the debates on Wednesday?

[NewbieJr 541]

Did they discuss this important issue at the debates on Wednesday?

 

 

Yes, and his mom jeans, and his use of a teleprompter. The real hard-hitting issues.

[BudBro 183]

Yes, and his mom jeans, and his use of a teleprompter. The real hard-hitting issues.

there is little else to discuss, unfortunately. even you should be requesting a resignation at this point.

[NewbieJr 541]

there is little else to discuss, unfortunately. even you should be requesting a resignation at this point.

Lolol. Resignation? Your party better come up with something better than loonies like Bachmann and Ron Paul of you have four more years of hatred and bitterness to deal with.

[drobeski 3,061]

has he showed the real one yet ? also, fake social security card...nice job voting in an illigal alien libtards.

Look at the country, in shambles...the guy should be mowing lawns like all decent illigals

[BudBro 183]

Lolol. Resignation? Your party better come up with something better than loonies like Bachmann and Ron Paul of you have four more years of hatred and bitterness to deal with.

 

bitterness and hatred will be the least of this country's worries if we have to put up with this corruption for another term.

 

paul and bachmann are both better options for america that what we are currently enduring.

 

it baffles me that you're still such a homer at this point. if you're any sort of "normal" working american, you have to ready for something new.

[Phurfur 70]

Lolol. Resignation? Your party better come up with something better than loonies like Bachmann and Ron Paul of you have four more years of hatred and bitterness to deal with.

 

you forgot racism!

[gocolts 300]

Looks like the birthers just got some new ammo.

 

E-Verify says Obama not eligible for employment in the United States

[MDC 7,888]

bump

[drobeski 3,061]

Tilt

 

 

The election must be sinking in

 

Rmff

[Fireballer 2,677]

BUMP

Ive never done much study on the whole birther thing, so I have a couple of questions.  First, I assume BHO is estranged from his brother?  Also, what exactly am I supposed to be looking at here and why is this coming up in 2023?  Is this something that has  been debunked in the past?
 

 

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

On 3/29/2011 at 12:48 PM, MTSkiBum said:

 

http://www.theflyfishingforum.com/forums/coldwater-fly-fishing/43764-brown-trout-pics-11.html

 

Check out that 25", 7lb brown that my coworker landed on the lower gallatin last weekend. It was on a side channel in a beaver pond. I managed to catch a 3lb rainbow, but I didnt even want my picture with it after he landed that.

 

The picture does not do it justice, but he is getting it mounted, second biggest trout I have ever seen.

 

I was keeping it real in political threads 10 years ago!

 

The link to the picture changed. I don't even remember that guys name, we worked concrete together, but only a short while. I caught a 26" brown at that same spot, i will need to find that picture.

https://www.theflyfishingforum.com/forums/index.php?threads/brown-trout-pics.43764/post-231560

 

[Reality 3,121]

53 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

BUMP

Ive never done much study on the whole birther thing, so I have a couple of questions.  First, I assume BHO is estranged from his brother?  Also, what exactly am I supposed to be looking at here and why is this coming up in 2023?  Is this something that has  been debunked in the past?
 

 

That dude really doesn't like his brother...

[thegeneral 3,603]

Let me see if I do this right…

“You guys got him this time!”