Game of Thrones (no spoilers)

[tanatastic 2,062]

The show just jumps around too much. Too hard to focus on people or places when its always a tiny bit of a larger story and not fleshed out.

[peenie 1,915]

 

I am trying to think if they have a similar look in the books. I think Stannis was suppose to be kind of an imposing presence, whereas Bolton is a small, meek, unassuming looking person who is very soft spoken. I have always felt like they nailed the casting for Bolton. The dude playing Stannis is nailing his personality, though. But yeah, they do have a similar pail, pasty look to them. However, definitely completely polar opposite personalities.

 

Not too many people like their spouses in the GOT world, people of nobility marry to forge alliances and/or money, not for love or even tang. Bolton married Walda Frey because Walder offered to give his daughter's weight in gold if he were to marry one. So Bolton picked out the fattest daughter to get the most money.

 

Ned Stark met Catelyn Tully just a few days before their wedding. Look no further than Rob Stark to see what happens when you marry who you want to marry. Like with what Dany is doing right now, she is marrying to greatly strengthen her position in Meereen and make peace with the great families. This is not a great show to watch if you are searching for fairytale love stories.

 

Omg, I can kiss you!! I love that you tied those loose ends up! I was wondering how in the world Bolton was convinced to turn on his own cousin?? Now I see that he is married to Frey's daughter which explains why she's so homely looking and of course the weight in gold is excellent. Listen, you have a new job, it's to come here after every show and explain things just like this. It makes it so much more interesting. I should really read the books....but I'm so lazy.

[mobb_deep 920]

The show just jumps around too much. Too hard to focus on people or places when its always a tiny bit of a larger story and not fleshed out.

It's like LOST, except the "others" are zombies instead of hippies.

[CantTouchThis 23]

 

Omg, I can kiss you!! I love that you tied those loose ends up! I was wondering how in the world Bolton was convinced to turn on his own cousin?? Now I see that he is married to Frey's daughter which explains why she's so homely looking and of course the weight in gold is excellent. Listen, you have a new job, it's to come here after every show and explain things just like this. It makes it so much more interesting. I should really read the books....but I'm so lazy.

 

That's Philly's job, yo. I'd actually recommend not reading the books until the series is done.

 

I remember coming on here after each episode of Lost to gain further insight. That is when the legend of Philly's write ups were born.

[phillybear 366]

 

That's Philly's job, yo. I'd actually recommend not reading the books until the series is done.

 

I remember coming on here after each episode of Lost to gain further insight. That is when the legend of Philly's write ups were born.

 

Those days are gone. How can I provide insight into The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones when so many others have read the source material and my insights look silly to them? I'm just spewing out some random thoughts and observations as I take the journey one episode at a time. It's more fun when nobody knows how it's going to unfold and ultimately end.

 

Insight is a job for others.

[CantTouchThis 23]

 

Those days are gone. How can I provide insight into The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones when so many others have read the source material and my insights look silly to them? I'm just spewing out some random thoughts and observations as I take the journey one episode at a time. It's more fun when nobody knows how it's going to unfold and ultimately end.

 

Insight is a job for others.

 

That's true, but your write-ups were an invaluable perception into the oft convoluted plot of Lost, as were others that posted on here like clockwork after each episode. There is no way my ignorant adolescent brain would have been able to keep up with the plot if it were not for this forum. It's unfortunate how far the Geek Club has fallen off . However, I think it is just because the internet has evolved past the point of forums, and it is now all about blogs.

[DanXIII 8]

Not sure if it's been said but Ramsey's side piece is now my favorite chick on this show by a decent margin

[kutulu 1,680]

It's like LOST, except the "others" are zombies instead of hippies.

 

You want to see something that reminds you of lost check out the opening scene of Wayward Pines

[The Moz 69]

 

You want to see something that reminds you of lost check out the opening scene of Wayward Pines

Wayward Pines started really good. Definitely looks like Lost

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

Well, the Queen of thrones is seeing the fallout for killing Joffrey. Granddaughter in a cell, grandson probably going to be executed, and they had nothing to do with it. The best laid plans of mice and men.....

[Drizzay 723]

Something tells me it will end very badly for Ramsey.

[TD Ryan2 316]

Game of.... Weddings? every fockin' episode is a wedding now.

 

Do the Sparrows lock nobles up for incest too? that'd be nice

 

Mormont... !! LIGHTBULB !!... former Lord Commander is Jorah's father??? I'm not sure if I knew that or just forgot it.

 

"The dwarf lives until we find a c0ck merchant" - even when this show is down, it's better than everything else out there

 

Sansa is slowly becoming a player instead of a pawn and now the last shred of innocence is gone - it's an Obi-Wan moment - "pop that cherry and you'll make me more powerful than you could ever imagine".

[parrot 789]

 

"The dwarf lives until we find a c0ck merchant" - even when this show is down, it's better than everything else out there

 

 

 

The Dorne storyline is putrid, but it's nice to see Bronn get some lines in;

 

"I like to improvise."

 

"That explains the golden hand."

[TD Ryan2 316]

Bronn is kinda' like someone watching the show, looking around, and saying, "This wan't thought out too well, why the fock are we here?".

 

And I'm sorry, but Bronn and one-handed Jaimie can't fight off a trio of girls? seriously? Up next a WNBA team beats the Cavs.

 

And how is Lady Olenna that dumb? Again, really? But hey, thanks for another GOT-template scene where two power characters sit down and exchange cutting dialogue.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Bronn is kinda' like someone watching the show, looking around, and saying, "This wan't thought out too well, why the fock are we here?".

 

And I'm sorry, but Bronn and one-handed Jaimie can't fight off a trio of girls? seriously? Up next a WNBA team beats the Cavs.

 

And how is Lady Olenna that dumb? Again, really? But hey, thanks for another GOT-template scene where two power characters sit down and exchange cutting dialogue.

At the very least it should've been 100% clear they were setting Margaery up for perjury when they called her to testify. Call the g0ddamn queen to testify? No way, that's something you have to set up way in advance and even then it ain't happening.

 

And how did they not know the sept had gotten ahold of Loras' ghey lover? Jesus if you do any legwork at all in advance of the hearing you find out whether any of his fock buddies have been compromised

[parrot 789]

Bronn is kinda' like someone watching the show, looking around, and saying, "This wan't thought out too well, why the fock are we here?".

 

And I'm sorry, but Bronn and one-handed Jaimie can't fight off a trio of girls? seriously? Up next a WNBA team beats the Cavs.

 

And how is Lady Olenna that dumb? Again, really? But hey, thanks for another GOT-template scene where two power characters sit down and exchange cutting dialogue.

 

In fairness to B and J, the Sand Snakes are supposed to be kinda bad asses. In the show they are just bad though.

 

Yeah, they have gotten pretty formulaic with some of the verbal sparring - "famous tart Cersei Lannister" was pretty good though.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Ugh, the Sand Snakes suuuccckkkkk, it was a big thing I was looking forward to. Welp, I said the show-runners were killing it this season, but that was definitely a misstep

[mobb_deep 920]

Ugh, the Sand Snakes suuuccckkkkk, it was a big thing I was looking forward to. Welp, I said the show-runners were killing it this season, but that was definitely a misstep

It's like they ran of money, so they just picked up a couple lesbians from the local Italian gay bar and gave them all whips and bad persian accents.

[phillybear 366]

5.06 Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

 

Arya continues to give dead people sponge baths. Jaqen and the musty girl continue to talk in riddles with a central theme of lying. Makes some sense as assassins need to have skills in death and lying. Jaqen smacks Arya a few times and then finds out that he will be receiving a 4 game suspension from the NFL. A dying kid shows up at the temple. Arya spins a web of lies and then kills her with poison water, otherwise known as bottled water sold in supermarkets. Jaqen leads Arya down into the depths of the Temple to the reveal: the largest Halloween mask store in the universe, full of faces of people that I assume died in the Temple. So is it that when one of the Assassins goes out getting stabby, they assume the face of someone on the shelf? Arya is going to phase 2, but she still never threw away her sword; she hit it in the rocks. Will this hinder her transformation process into becoming a master of disguise that hopefully is much less cheesy than Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible movies.

 

One of the brats spawned from Cersei and Jaime is walking in a fancy shmancy garden with some other snobby kid as they make plans for the future like most ill informed teenagers tend to be. World domination, one million dollars, and sharks with fricking laser beams on their heads. What’s with the ruler prince guy? Why is he always sitting in a chair? Bad legs? Bronn and Jaime come to save Myrcella, but she doesn’t want to go. Well, that was a wasted trip. She have called first, or at least sent a bird with a message tied around it’s leg. They are attacked by the Kardashians in one of the worst fight sequences I have witnessed, and I’ve seen Corky Romano twice. OK. Three times. But in my defense, there was midget in it and Peter Faulk was as good as ever. Everybody is arrested by Dorne guards. I think an overlooked plot point here is that one of the Kardashians slashed Bronn across the arm with a dagger. I would expect that it would be coated in poison and Bronn is not long for the world. Jaime is facing incarceration, or maybe a trial by duel type of deal like Tyrion went through. Eye for an eye. Since Jaime sucks at fighting, and Bronn may be poisoned/mortally injured/dying, this sets up some interesting possibilities.

 

Jorah and Tyrion are now walking to Meereen, which should take them until Season 15. After Tyrion and Jorah commiserate over dead father stories, they are captured by Mr. Eko and the Bunnymen. If Mr. Eko is in such a need of finding a midget c0ck merchant, maybe he should try Stubhub. Get it? Stub? Anyway, Tyrion manages to talk himself into keeping his schween and talking Jorah into a life of UFC Meereen. All in all, I like where this story is going. But, you are exposing grayscale via Jorah to Meereen, so that’s not good. MRSA is rampant in MMA and in gyms where fighters train. I can imagine it spreading like wildfire in sweaty fighting pits and through the city itself. Maybe the Dumb Ass of Dragons ends up covered in scales like her dragons.

 

Littlefinger/Baelish manages to avoid too much of a confrontation with the Sparrows, much to my surprise. I thought they might arrest him. However, the scene brings attention to Lancel, the Lannister cousin again, meaning he still has a key role to play, methinks. Baelish breaks the news to Cersei that Sansa will marry Ramsey and she Cersei bananers. Or goes Cersei. Baelish offers the services of the Vale to clean up the upcoming war with Bolton and Stannis in order for Baelish become the ruler of the North. Amazing. Just look at all the deals Baelish has cut, and he comes out ahead in pretty much every scenario to continue rise in power and rule the North. First, he becomes Lord of Harrenhal after Blackwater. He conspired with the Olenna Tyrell to kill Joffrey and steal away Sansa, so he has the Tyrells in the back pockeet. He marries and kills Lysa to grab the power of the Vale. He marries off Sansa, his niece, to the Boltons to form an alliance. He told Sansa he expects Stannis to beat Bolton; his army is much bigger. Bolton told Ramsey that their alliances in the North are tenuous and their alliance are shaky. Now, Baelish has been given permission by Cersei to move out his armies across the North, so he’s not doing anything to p!ss off the Lannisters or the ruling party in King’s Landing in case every thing falls apart. However, let’s not discount how Baelish betrayed Ned Stark. Did Cersei forget? Boltons win, Baelish could beat their weakened troops, takes control of North with King’s Landing’s blessing. Stannis wins, Baelish swoops in, helps them clean up the Boltons, and has Sansa put in charge of Winterfell, and he is de facto warden of North as Stannis goes on to march on King’s Landing. Or if it’s a bad battle, he could finish off Bolton and Stannis, and is in control of North, with Sansa by his side.. The wildcard is literally the wildlings as when Jon Snow brings them over by vessels around the Wall, they may join the fight. Either way, I very much look forward to the upcoming battle, which I expect to happen by the end of the season. The most likely scenario is that Stannis wins, Baelish gloms onto the spoils of victory and pledges allegiance. Don’t forget, Roose Bolton helped kill Caetlyn Stark at the wedding, the only women Peter Baelish every loved. Baelish wants to get revenge on Bolton. Sansa is looking more and more like her mother, so I would imagine Baelish will marry her at some point. And then call out Caetlyn’s name when they have sex.

 

Olenna returns to King’s Landing in her indominatable style. She makes it clear to the Queen of Tarts that the alliance of the Tyrells and Lannisters is hanging by a thread. Which is an excellent point. Queen Eyebrows is playing a stupid, stupid, stupid game. She has brought in faith to overrun the laws, no separation of church and state in sight. Cersei is doing this to spite Margaery and to desperately hang on to power. She sent away her council around the world. The Lannisters have no money, very little in their own armies, and mostly incompetent commanders. Tommen is a overwhelmed. Cersei is playing a game on her own with zero advice or help. Her little victories right now can only end in disaster. She has the Queen’s brother locked up, the Queen locked up, the people giving her money, supplies and troops furious at her, her alliance falling apart, two rebellions in the North, Sansa is alive, and unbeknownst to her, Littlefinger just PWNED her. Did she forget she has three incest kids, which most people know about, and she slept with Lancel; as we’ve seen, the High Sparrow loves surprise witnesses, like a Lancel would be vs. Cersei. Much like Baelish being able to use info gleaned from brothels, the High Sparrow has his sources to exploit as well. He will get after Cersei and throw her in jail or maybe even have her killed. It doesn’t help that the King Tommen just saw his mother orchestrate having his wife thrown into jail to await trail. Maybe the pipsqueak facilitates Cersei’s downfall. Ah, vanity, you will be claiming another soul. What was curious is that the main witness against Loras is Olyvar, one of Baelish’s minions. Is Baelish pulling the strings to bring about the downfall of the Tyrells too? He’s a clever fucko.

 

You would think the whole bath scene between Myranda and Sansa would have been a bit more sexy, but personally, the washing of dead bodies in the temple brought more heat. Sansa says she can’t be frightened. Well, after enduring Joffrey, you might have a mind set like that. Oh, Sansa, won’t you ever win? Just when you think she hits rock bottom. I swear, it’s like Wile E Coyote going over a cliff. Again, and again. Ramsay takes it a step further, and when he is having his way with Sansa, he makes Theon/Reek watch. Not that I expected it would become a threeway, well, you know, because. Well, there was some really skilled acting by Reek with his facial expressions and emotions, horrified at watching the post wedding activity. I don’t know who is going to reach a breaking point first. Sansa, becoming dead inside, finally, and going fully dark hearted and merciless in her revenge, if given the chance. Or Theon trying to recapture one last scrap of humanity and killing his master. Then there are Bork Lesnar and her squire Pork lurking around. More bad times are ahead for Sansa, for a while, at least. Still, she was given the choice by Baelish of going through with the wedding to Ramsey in order to seek revenge, or walk away. She decided to go for revenge. With revenge, there is a price to pay. However, it’s clear neither Baelish nor Sansa knew the price would be this steep. Later, Ramsey found out he will be receiving only a 2 game suspension from the NFL. Oh, that whacky Roger Goddell.

[Quickolas1 80]

5.06 Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

Yes, Dorne guy has bad legs.

Littlefinger knew Ramsay's reputation; steep price.

 

Will Melisandre send a baby smoke monster after Mr. Eko?

[parrot 789]

It's like they ran of money, so they just picked up a couple lesbians from the local Italian gay bar and gave them all whips and bad persian accents.

 

Funny part is, one of the Sand Snakes is an Academy Award nominee.

[phillybear 366]

Yes, Dorne guy has bad legs.

Littlefinger knew Ramsay's reputation; steep price.

 

Will Melisandre send a baby smoke monster after Mr. Eko?

 

Didn't Littlefinger tell Bolton that he didn't know much about Ramsey just a couple of episodes ago? Hard to tell if it's the truth or a lie. Ramsey was a basterd, so maybe there was no reason for Baelish to keep tabs on him, until he got his name changed to Bolton.

 

I don't want to see Mr. Eko weeping. If Mr. Eko ended up on Once Upon a Time, he'd be running from smoke damned near every episode.

[parrot 789]

Some good stuff from Reddit this week,

 

http://imgur.com/DwunQOI

 

http://imgur.com/a/VQ7s3

 

http://imgur.com/fEkzgeM

 

 

[Quickolas1 80]

Some good stuff from Reddit this week,

http://imgur.com/DwunQOI

http://imgur.com/a/VQ7s3

http://imgur.com/fEkzgeM

 

That third link isn't a problem. Cersei is not Tywin and is blinded by the fortune-teller's prophecy... not solidifying the Lannisters' position with the Tyrells.

 

Finally agree with Can'tTouchThis... the writers have been killing it (but not in a good way). It's going to be silly for bookreaders to read about these plotlines in book 6 when by show omission we've basically been told they are unimportant (spoiler alert):

 

 

Victarion's mission & the Greyjoys

Dorne... the whole point of the Dorne storyline was the Quentyn Martell mission

Aegon & Jon Connington

Blackfish Tully

Mance Rayder... Sam & Rayder's baby... the Pate mystery at the Citadel

Ser Barristen

Lady Stoneheart & what happens with Brienne

The two Horns, of fire & ice

 

[OldMaid 2,130]

That third link isn't a problem. Cersei is not Tywin and is blinded by the fortune-teller's prophecy... not solidifying the Lannisters' position with the Tyrells.

 

Finally agree with Can'tTouchThis... the writers have been killing it (but not in a good way). It's going to be silly for bookreaders to read about these plotlines in book 6 when by show omission we've basically been told they are unimportant (spoiler alert):

 

 

Victarion's mission & the Greyjoys

Dorne... the whole point of the Dorne storyline was the Quentyn Martell mission

Aegon & Jon Connington

Edmure

Mance Rayder... Sam & Rayder's baby... the Pate mystery at the Citadel

Ser Barristen

Lady Stoneheart & what happens with Brienne

The two Horns, of fire & ice

 

I think they may save a good portion of your spoilers for next season. It makes sense... they know they have a writer who is painfully slow, and this way they buy themselves some extra time.

 

At least that's what I keep telling myself...

[Quickolas1 80]

I think they may save a good portion of your spoilers for next season. It makes sense... they know they have a writer who is painfully slow, and this way they buy themselves some extra time.

 

At least that's what I keep telling myself...

we're past them all in the show's story. except for maybe one... but they've never mentioned Quentyn.

[edjr 6,602]

What the fock happened to Mr. Eko/Adebisi?

 

Fock was he fat.

[peenie 1,915]

5.06 Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

 

 

Excellent! (have you done this each season? I may have to reread this thread!)

Theion Greyjoy deserves an award for his acting.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Alfie Allen, other than Dinklage, has become the best actor on the show. I hated Theon, but he did a solid job with a rather bad character. His portrayal of Reek is almost scarily well done.

[CantTouchThis 23]

BTW, I cannot be the only one thinking that "brutal rape" scene a) wasn't too bad by GOT standards, and b ) wasn't really a rape. They just got married, she chose to marry him and didn't say no or put up a fight. Sansa knows what she is doing to an extent. After everything she's been through, getting her cherry popped rather roughly by Ramsay is really not a bad way to finally be in a position of power.

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

It was no big deal when a guy got his junk cut off and shipped to his father.

[OldMaid 2,130]

BTW, I cannot be the only one thinking that "brutal rape" scene a) wasn't too bad by GOT standards, and wasn't really a rape. They just got married, she chose to marry him and didn't say no or put up a fight. Sansa knows what she is doing to an extent. After everything she's been through, getting her cherry popped rather roughly by Ramsay is really not a bad way to finally be in a position of power.

Yeah... the outrage online has been pretty funny. This is GoT people... if you haven't figured out yet that bad things happen, here, you haven't been paying attention.

[edjr 6,602]

Yeah.

 

it was okay when Drago raped daenerys.

 

was okay when Ramsay tortured Reek for a month and lopped off his schlong.

 

but not okay when Ramsay takes his new bride from behind

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I think the problem with the rape scene was they ended the episode with it. Probably should've thrown in another scene there before fading to black

[peenie 1,915]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who isn't disturbed by the "rape" scenes.

Here is the interview of the actress who plays Sansa:

 

Sansa Stark was brutally attacked on Sunday night’s Game of Thrones by her sadistic new husband, Ramsay Bolton, who finally showed her his true colors in the bedroom on their wedding night—all the while forcing Sansa’s former childhood friend Theon to watch. We talked to Sophie Turner back in October about the Ramsay storyline and Sunday’s instantly controversial scene—which the actress had not yet filmed but definitely had opinions about.

 

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What was your reaction when you got the scripts and realized what was going to happen this season?
SOPHIE TURNER: Last season [Thrones director] Alex Graves decided to give me hints. He was saying, “You get a love interest next season.” And I was all, “I actually get a love interest!” So I get the scripts and I was so excited and I was flicking through and then I was like, “Aw, are you kidding me!?” I thought the love interest was going to be like Jaime Lannister or somebody who would take care of me. (aww, lol!) But then I found out it was Ramsay and I’m back at Winterfell. I love the fact she’s back home reclaiming what’s hers. But at the same time she’s being held prisoner in her own home. When I got the scripts, it was bit like, dude, I felt so bad for her. But I also felt excited because it was so sick, and being reunited with Theon too, and seeing how their relationship plays out. Theon’s a member of the Stark clan but she thinks he totally betrayed and killed her brothers. It’s a messed-up relationship between them

 

You’re sort of stuck with the two of the most messed-up characters in the show.
Theon’s just mental. I think it’s going to be the most challenging season for me so far just because it’s so emotional for her. It’s not just crying all the time, like seasons 2 or 3, it’s super messed up.

And then there is the scene described in the production breakdown as “romance dies.” Sansa’s wedding night in episode 6.
When I read that scene, I kinda loved it. I love the way Ramsay had Theon watching. It was all so messed up. It’s also so daunting for me to do it. I’ve been making [producer Bryan Cogman] feel so bad for writing that scene: “I can’t believe you’re doing this to me!” But I secretly loved it.

 

I think fans’ reactions will be pretty simiilar: “How can they do this to Sansa?”
I completely agree with them! After Joffrey, she’s escaped him and you think she’s going to lose her virginity to a guy who’s really sweet and takes care of her and she’s thrown in with a guy who’s a whole lot worse. But I kind of like the fact she doesn’t really know what a psycho he is until that night. She has a sense, but she’s more scared of his father. And then that night everything gets so f–ked up.

 

Have you read the book version?
No. Doesn’t Theon join in or something?

 

Yup.
Yeah, like, thank God that didn’t happen! But it will be interesting to film.

 

One thing about this scene, if there’s any remaining Sansa bashers out there, it’s like, if you don’t feel bad for Sansa now…
Right, then you really have something wrong with you. I swear, this show, after the first season when people were hating on Sansa. Showrunners [David Benioff and Dan Weiss] must have been like, “Okay, let’s do everything we can to make her the most abused, manipulated character!”

 

And Ramsay is, if anything, a far more difficult person to manipulate than Joffrey.
Right, because you can’t get on his level. He’s such a mentalist. He’s such a mind-beep. There’s no way of understanding his motives or his thinking. So this season it’s also her trying to figure out his intentions and trying to please him.

 

 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

There's some serious tail in the dungeons these days

[phillybear 366]

5.07 The Gift

 

Jon leaves the Wall with Paul Bunyan and a sack of dragon glass. Maester Aemon defies the odds and dies from being an old man as opposed to skydiving. I thought the Maester would babble some important stuff to Sam before dying, but nope. Gilly gets assaulted by a couple of watchers. Sam gets the crap beat out of him and we get to see a wolf again. Gilly and Sam have very awkward sex, which is against the Watch codes, if I recall correctly. Things are going badly at the Wall. It seems that nearly everybody has turned against Jon Snow after the public head lopping off and now the action to help save the lives of the Wildlings. Now that he has ridden off, it allows more resentment to breed amongst the men. Sam isn’t helping things when he got into a scuffle with two brothers and then had sex against the oath. Things are destabilizing at the worst possible moment. At some point, Jon Snow may be exiled from the Night Watch and maybe join the rest of the world.

 

Sansa is really not happy about married life. She carries around the burden of a character from LOST where nothing but shitty things happened to them their entire life and then their character was killed off without any redemption whatsoever. You would think Sansa gets revenge upon Ramsey at some point, but this show has nothing to do with redemption so I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for it. Remember Oberlyn’s fight with the Mountain? Sansa asks for Reek’s help in lighting a candle to call for help from Bork. Reek instantly betrays her to Ramsey who skins old woman friend of Sansa’s. Interesting conversation where Sansa points out to Ramsey that his birthright is very much not secure, with a true borne possibly coming to his father. Further, Ramsey informed Sansa that Jon Snow is an overachiever at the Wall, giving her a possible option of where to flee during the impending battle of the armies of Bolton and Stannis. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be to lay siege to a well fortified castle during a snow storm. Stannis’ troops are cold and miserable. Retreat is not a viable option to Stannis as a matter of pride. Melisandre wants to burn Lizard Girl to ensure victory. Stannis is not a fan of this option. He also has no other children so who would be his heir anyway if he does become King. This tango is going to end badly for somebody. Stannis’s wife is a pain in the ass, maybe they sacrifice her instead.

 

Mr. Eko sells off Jorah and Tyrion at a slave auction, in a scene reminiscent to me of History of the World Part One. The Dumb Ass of Dragons is still having the sex with Daario despite her engagement in her upcoming political marriage. DAOD doesn’t like Daario’s idea of killing the city’s nobles, even though she just had one barbequed by a dragon just the other day. In Meereen, the preliminary Greyscale-adiators games start, with Jorah cheating by joining the fighting late and taking advantage of tired fighters, defeats the other participants, reveals himself, much to the disgust of the Dumb Ass of Dragons. Whatever flimsy, ill thought out plan Jorah had seemed to have backfired. Tyrion comes running out and is presented as a gift. Well, Tyrion will most likely live and end up being in the council of the DAOD. Didn’t DAOD say that she would cut the head of Jorah the next time she saw him? Oh, I really don’t like Jorah’s chances of ever wearing a hat again.

 

Jaime is not in a jail cell, against all odds, the only Lannister that can claim that fact in this episode. Myrcella pitches a fit about wanting to stay at summer camp and screw going home. Um, Jaime will probably have to confess being her father at some point to get her to listen. Bronn is teased by one of the Kardashians as she shows him her “personalities”, which gets his blood flowing, out of his nose. They admit the dagger they cut Bronn with was coated in poison. Ding. Guessed that from last week. The Kardashian gives him a vial of liquid to drink. It’s supposed to be an antidote, but I think it’s just more poison. That would be a cool swerve.

 

From 5.06

Littlefinger/Baelish manages to avoid too much of a confrontation with the Sparrows, much to my surprise. I thought they might arrest him. However, the scene brings attention to Lancel, the Lannister cousin again, meaning he still has a key role to play, methinks…

Cersei is playing a game on her own with zero advice or help. Her little victories right now can only end in disaster. She has the Queen’s brother locked up, the Queen locked up, the people giving her money, supplies and troops furious at her, her alliance falling apart, two rebellions in the North, Sansa is alive, and unbeknownst to her, Littlefinger just PWNED her. Did she forget she has three incest kids, which most people know about, and she slept with Lancel; as we’ve seen, the High Sparrow loves surprise witnesses, like a Lancel would be vs. Cersei. Much like Baelish being able to use info gleaned from brothels, the High Sparrow has his sources to exploit as well. He will get after Cersei and throw her in jail or maybe even have her killed. It doesn’t help that the King Tommen just saw his mother orchestrate having his wife thrown into jail to await trail. Maybe the pipsqueak facilitates Cersei’s downfall. Ah, vanity, you will be claiming another soul. What was curious is that the main witness against Loras is Olyvar, one of Baelish’s minions. Is Baelish pulling the strings to bring about the downfall of the Tyrells too? He’s a clever fucko.

Well, that just happened. Self high five.

 

Olenna is unable to make a deal with the crazy eyed High Sparrow. He’s literally rat sh!t crazy. It’s in the eyes. Tommen is unable to make a deal with anybody to release Margaery from prison and is being manipulated by his mother, who’s eyebrows in this episode arch high enough to reach her hair line. Littlefinger, on the other hand, cuts a deal with Olenna for her own surprise witness to use against Cersei, which happens to be Lancel. That was quite a change in demeanor from when Cersei mocked Margaery in her dungeon cell to when Cersei found herself in the same predicament at the very end. Can this be the beginning of Orange is the New Blackwater? I can’t imagine all of their heads end up on spikes. The question becomes, who will live and die. A meek, useless Tommen is all that stands in the way of a power vacuum at King’s Landing, just as winter is hitting the North and Stannis is preoccupied. Will King’s Landing and the overall kingdom plunge into a faith militant state? WestorISIS? Meanwhile, Littlefinger has successfully pitted the Tyrells vs. Lannisters, where both are set to destroy each other, without a single soldier being involved. He’s three moves ahead on the chess board, perfectly happy to be ruler over a pile of ashes. Without Varys to countermove against, Littlefinger is running roughshod over everybody. No complaints from me.

[nobody 2,687]

I don't see how Tommen doesn't just get 500 guys to go in there and murder everyone. The religious fanatics can't kill anyone without a trial, or they would be murderers. Or shít, just claim the high sparrow guy did some bullshìt and pay some fake witnesses to lie about it. This whole situation seems very easily solvable.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I don't see how Tommen doesn't just get 500 guys to go in there and murder everyone. The religious fanatics can't kill anyone without a trial, or they would be murderers. Or shít, just claim the high sparrow guy did some bullshìt and pay some fake witnesses to lie about it. This whole situation seems very easily solvable.

They tried to address that last episode. Tommen says well I'll just start a war and Cersei told him we both know the first person who dies will be Margaery. But maybe that was just Cersei saying that to keep Margaery locked up

[Quickolas1 80]

I don't see how Tommen doesn't just get 500 guys to go in there and murder everyone. The religious fanatics can't kill anyone without a trial, or they would be murderers. Or shít, just claim the high sparrow guy did some bullshìt and pay some fake witnesses to lie about it. This whole situation seems very easily solvable.

 

Except he's supposed to be an innocent child and therefore defers to the older women in his life. He's not Joffrey... murdering a bunch of people would contradict his character. And those locked up are scheduled for trials.

Although who knows, maybe that could change... they are fully 'completing' both books 4 AND 5 in just this one show season so we'll all be guessing very soon.

 

More egregious is - what I believe Philly brought up - it makes no sense that the Sparrows did not arrest Littlefinger. The show writers erred IMO in bringing Littlefinger back to King's Landing; there was no need for it.