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Zimmerman - Guilty of Murder or Self Defense

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  1. 1. Is Zimmerman Guilty of Murder (in YOUR mind)?

    • Yes, he murdered that boy.
      8
    • No, he acted in self defense.
      34
    • Guilty of manslaughter (or involuntary manslaughter).
      24


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Isn't that what we all do here on a daily basis? :dunno:

 

Sadly ... I feel like I know some of you people.

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Giants Fan would be a great lawyer,

 

"Objection! Your Honor, opposing counsel is peppering my client with leading questions! And speaking of peppering, let me tell you about the time I got pepper-sprayed by a one-armed transvestite...."

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Giants Fan would be a great lawyer,

 

"Objection! Your Honor, opposing counsel is peppering my client with leading questions! And speaking of peppering, let me tell you about the time I got pepper-sprayed by a one-armed transvestite...."

And also, speaking of peppered, have you tried the DiGiorno frozen pizza with peppers? I'f place it as my #7 all-time favorite frozen entrée. Oh wait, maybe #8. I forgot about Staufer's Salisbury Steak and Mac-n-Cheese.

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Let's see ... my grandfather was an attorney, as was my father, also a law prof, my sister is an attorney, my dead brother was an attorney .... and I'm the smart one.

 

So .... you do the math.

 

Awesome...your family is qualified to talk about the law.

You are most certainly not.

And if you were the smart one...they must be a bunch of focking morons.

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Rp, could you please do something with you yapping ankle biter ? Getting close to kick across the room time.

 

Funny how you have to cry to RP.

Keeping with the dog theme...you both act like that little dog always hangs around the bigger dog.

But neither of you are any big dog.

Too funny.

 

Kick across the room? Really funny...considering how weak you two are.

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And also, speaking of peppered, have you tried the DiGiorno frozen pizza with peppers? I'f place it as my #7 all-time favorite frozen entrée. Oh wait, maybe #8. I forgot about Staufer's Salisbury Steak and Mac-n-Cheese.

:first:

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ni99er = low life black person

ni99a = slang word for strange person (in this case), by a low life black person (in any case).

actually "niggah" is slang for many words................ Blacks use it the way smurfs use "smurf"

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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...who among us has not thought about having sex with a 15 year old who looks like 22? I ask you? I implore you? Under the circumstances, I'd do it again.

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Ladies and gentlemen if the jury...who among us has not thought about having sex with a 15 year old who looks like 22? I ask you? I implore you? Under the circumstances, I'd do it again.

:banana: :clap:

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In my closing argument, I'm sure I can say with 100% confidence that there's not a one of you on that jury who didn't watch Party of Five and think how much they'd like to take the 12 year-old Lacey Chabert and have a party of five inches in her still bald cockpit.

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In my closing argument, I'm sure I can say with 100% confidence that there's not a one of you on that jury who didn't watch Party of Five and think how much they'd like to take the 12 year-old Lacey Chabert and have a party of five inches in her still bald cockpit.

:o - that you watched Party of 5 and :nono: - that you would think of having seck with a 12 year old. For shame.

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:o - that you watched Party of 5 and :nono: - that you would think of having seck with a 12 year old. For shame.

This. But, what if she looked 14? :banana:

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This. But, what if she looked 14? :banana:

Then she is right in GFIAFP's wheelhouse.

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Rp, could you please do something with you yapping ankle biter ? Getting close to kick across the room time.

He must have a waterproof keyboard with the amount of crying he does.

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He must have a waterproof keyboard with the amount of crying he does.

Says the guy crying to his little buddy about me.

Thanks chief...time for your usual follow up.

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In my closing argument, I'm sure I can say with 100% confidence that there's not a one of you on that jury who didn't watch Party of Five and think how much they'd like to take the 12 year-old Lacey Chabert and have a party of five inches in her still bald cockpit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14

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actually "niggah" is slang for many words................ Blacks use it the way smurfs use "smurf"

 

Either its a poisonous word and truly evil or it is not, enough of the "we can say it but you cant" nonsense. For a people who claim to be oppressed and marginalized, they sure are bloody eager to exact those same things on others. The duality is sickening.

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Is Georgie boy gonna testify?

I can guarantee you there's a debate going on right now in the defense camp on this.

 

The obvious choice is "no", because you can REALLY fock yourself over by testifying, and often times there isn't much good that can come of it.

 

On the other hand, right now, after the state rested, there is certainly some chance that he gets convicted of manslaughter. But how good are those chances, and at what point does the possibility of a conviction outweigh the risk of having him testify?

 

It's a very tough question in a case like this. But I bet the defense goes the safe route and Zimmerman stays off the stand.

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I've reported this entire thread.

 

 

There is NO reason the OP had to refer to the poor victim as "boy". :mad:

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She looks like the chick from flight of the concords

 

It looks like her neck swallowed her chin

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Sounds like Zimmy lied about knowing the existence of the stand your ground law. Could make one wonder what else he might lie about.

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Sounds like Zimmy lied about knowing the existence of the stand your ground law. Could make one wonder what else he might lie about.

He likely lied about Martin going for his gun too. His original story did not include that bit of info and then later he added it in. Also, if the reporting on the print/DNA evidence is right Martin never touched the gun.

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He likely lied about Martin going for his gun too. His original story did not include that bit of info and then later he added it in. Also, if the reporting on the print/DNA evidence is right Martin never touched the gun.

What I read about the DNA is they didn't find Martins on the gun but there was somebodies on there besides Zimmerman so it's hard to draw a definite conclusion that Martin never touched the gun.

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What I read about the DNA is they didn't find Martins on the gun but there was somebodies on there besides Zimmerman so it's hard to draw a definite conclusion that Martin never touched the gun.

That makes sense :thumbsup:

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What does grass sound like ?

Not sure, but I know the smell pretty good :bandana:

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Not sure, but I know the smell pretty good :bandana:

Did you get yours from Henrietta hippo like trayvon ?

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The State's firearm expert may be the ugliest fvcker I've ever seen. No wonder she carries a gun, I'm sure she has to use it to force men to have sex with her.

 

http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2013/07/03/Zimmerman_day6_15_t607.JPG

 

She has a good body, you just have to ask her to wear a bag over her head.

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She has a good body, you just have to ask her to wear a bag over her head.

 

...or a hoodie. :ninja:

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Editor’s note: La’Keitha Daniels is a baker and blogger at “Sweet Nothings from the Sidebar.” She is also an attorney and community relations manager for a region of charter schoolsin the Atlanta area. Daniels appears regularly as a juror on HLN After Dark.

“Sak Pase.” That’s the greeting that Rachel Jeantel and many in her community would reply to. It means “what’s up” in Creole, the language native to Haiti, where she and her mother are from.

I knew immediately that Jeantel, the last person to talk to Trayvon Martin on the phonebefore he was shot, was of Haitian (and Dominican) descent based on her last name. I know this because I spent the first 16 years of my life growing up in one of the most diverse cities in the United States, Miami.

My neighborhood school was the same school Jeantel attends. The roux of this perfect gumbo of Caribbean culture is where we both call home. But one thing that often creates a divide between this community and mainstream America is the dialect and accents that those outside of that community often have trouble understanding.

For two days, Jeantel was on the stand in the Zimmerman murder trial doing her very best to hold it together while America has turned her appearance and her acumen into fodder for their jokes. People have focused more on how she delivered her message than the fact that this key witness was struggling to detail the last moments of her friend’s life, which she unknowingly bore witness to.

Watch: Rachel Jeantel & Don West go at it

Nevermind that she speaks THREE languages, and English is not her first. It’s easy to gawk at a large, dark-skinned young black woman and pick her apart like vultures because her subjects and verbs don’t agree. And that goes for the whites and blacks alike who have torn her down on social media.

But why are we, the Judgy McJudges of America, so focused on her speech? What everyone should have paid attention to was that Jeantel never wavered from her version of the events the night Martin was killed. She may have told MORE of the story to those who asked the right questions, but she never wavered.

Watch: A timeline of Rachel Jeantel's story

Talking to teenagers is like pulling teeth with a rusty wrench. But if you ask the right questions, you get the right answers, and the State did that when Jeantel was on the stand.

The sad part of the long, painful two days of testimony wasn’t the muffled sound of Jeantel’s voice or the combative nature of her responses at times. The sad part was the disrespect of defense attorney Don West, who knew of Jeantel’s challenges and limitations and exploited them so deeply on cross-examination.

Watch: Trayvon Martin's friend describes hearing fight

As an attorney, I understand the need to score points on cross, especially with such an important witness. But what I do not think he placed true value in was the six women sitting in the jury box watching him attempt to ridicule and embarrass a 19-year-old girl on the stand in front of millions of viewers.

Women do not play those games. White, Latina, black or otherwise, women are inherently the more empathetic sex, especially in regards to violence against women and children. And the assault waged on Jeantel by the defense was indefensible.

Read more: Love her or hate her, Rachel Jeantel is a star

West asked (in a condescending voice) if she can read, and, “Are you OK? You seem so different today than yesterday.” The fact that he also inferred that she was somehow changed by conversation with others or perhaps medicated in an effort to get under her skin was disgusting. The utter disrespect he showed will backfire on him with those jurors.

Most of black America seemed to be in one big prayer circle around Jeantel because of the fear that people outside of her community will never be able to see through the messenger to get to the message. I pray that they are wrong.

 

 

 

CNN Editorial

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For you desperate guys thay strikeout with the state firearms expert, this could be your fallback option now that Trayvon is out of the picture.

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Then Zimmerman never pulled the trigger. His DNA was not on the trigger so who the fock pulled it then? Or, did some prints wash away?

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I can't follow the trial but I do see clips that make the news. I just saw some footage, one was a woman neighbor witness who says the screaming voice was the boy. Another where the prosecutor who also claims that it was TM screaming on the 911 tape.

 

Earlier I saw a pretty credible witness -the neighbor with the beard- say it was Zimmerman screaming.

 

So do we have conflicting reports on the identity of person screaming for help and it's still unsettled? Godd@mn it's such a critical piece of evidence and we can't ID it. :(

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I can't follow the trial but I do see clips that make the news. I just saw some footage, one was a woman neighbor witness who says the screaming voice was the boy. Another where the prosecutor who also claims that it was TM screaming on the 911 tape.

 

Earlier I saw a pretty credible witness -the neighbor with the beard- say it was Zimmerman screaming.

 

So do we have conflicting reports on the identity of person screaming for help and it's still unsettled? Godd@mn it's such a critical piece of evidence and we can't ID it. :(

Also known as reasonable doubt :)

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For you desperate guys thay strikeout with the state firearms expert, this could be your fallback option now that Trayvon is out of the picture.

 

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here. Who are these "desperate guys"? What do you mean Trayvon is out of the picture...he's dead?

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La’Keitha Daniels is a blithering idiot who should get late stage cancer for being such a racist stupid twat. I hope everybody in her family gets swallowed up by a sharknado.

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