BunnysBastatrds 2,713 Posted April 18, 2014 Anthony kiedis, elvis costello, iggy pop, almost every lead singer of an 80's hair band, henry rollins, any of the singers in kiss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,713 Posted April 18, 2014 Iggy? Anybody who rolls on broken glass and pisses themselves is worthy in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,852 Posted April 18, 2014 To whomever said Rush, yep... Adding Rush to the list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted April 18, 2014 To whomever said Rush, yep... Adding Rush to the list... Poor man's YES. Which comes as sad news to post-1975 YES who is pretty sure they're the poor man's YES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,273 Posted April 18, 2014 Need to go about half way through to get to Prince owning the performance. Well worth it. Holy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,852 Posted April 18, 2014 Need to go about half way through to get to Prince owning the performance. Well worth it. Anyone that has played guitar for as long as he has could do the same thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,552 Posted April 18, 2014 Anyone that has played guitar for as long as he has could do the same thing... What musical instruments and experience do you have, to be making that statement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,852 Posted April 18, 2014 What musical instruments and experience do you have, to be making that statement? So you are saying that someone that hasn't been playing guitar for 40-some years can't do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,552 Posted April 18, 2014 So you are saying that someone that hasn't been playing guitar for 40-some years can't do that? Yes, quite comfortable with that statement, and would add you've clearly shown in this thread you either don't know music, or you are just trolling using your usual "don't like anything" shtick. I think it's a combination of both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted April 18, 2014 "Over rated musicians"... Are we evaluating craft (i.e. how technically sound is the instrument playing) or artistry (how creative, innovative, or evocative is the music/song/lyrics). Craft is more measurable - how fast, loud, controlled, high/low, etc the instrument (including voice) can be played. Artistry is where most ot the disagreement comes in - art speaks differently to different people without a right or wrong answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 939 Posted April 18, 2014 Need to go about half way through to get to Prince owning the performance. Well worth it. I actually posted that yesterday in post #53 before your post that someone with a computer should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,043 Posted April 18, 2014 Springsteen and bono are good ones but the entire 80s hair band era can't be beat Like a sore d1ck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,043 Posted April 18, 2014 Prince was on my bucket list and the girl got me tix for this past Christmas to see him in a week after xmas at Mohegan Sun. ($450 for 2 tix. way too much but loved it) Awesome time, awesome show. He could have played a little more guitar, but I loved it. Up next The Eagles this coming September 15 at the Boston Garden. Going to be another expensive one, but have to see them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 18, 2014 I would put the technical guitar skills of the best Hair Band guitarists over any other genre. It's really not even close. . I understand that music tastes differ and I can't change your opinion on whether you like certain music or not, but we can actually argue on technical guitar skills. Like I said earlier, there were some good hair metal guitarists, but almost everyone of them tried to play fast, fast, fast. Speed is a great skill, but not nearly as important as tone, depth and balls. When I listen to guitar players that actually make every note have value instead of just being thrown out for speed or flash.I get their true talent. Technically, I'm not a guitar player, all I play is truth and emotion. ~ Jimi Hendrix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,629 Posted April 18, 2014 Poor man's YES. You slay me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted April 18, 2014 Ian Anderson of jethro tull. Him and that focking flute. This one time at band camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,199 Posted April 18, 2014 Poor man's YES. Which comes as sad news to post-1975 YES who is pretty sure they're the poor man's YES. Well, I disagree with the Rush comparison, but I love this Yes comment. Although I liked their work (albeit progressively less) up until 90125, which I eagerly anticipated because of Jon Anderson's return, and which became the biggest disappointment in my young musical life. Well, tied with Styx -- Kilroy was Here. Man did 1983 suck for rock bands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishHead 3 Posted April 18, 2014 Up next The Eagles this coming September 15 at the Boston Garden. Going to be another expensive one, but have to see them. I love the Eagles earlier music most but I like all of it. But edjr before you go, read Don Felder's Heaven & Hell: My Life In The Eagles (1974-2001). Just so you'll know what you're seeing. Btw, I saw Henley, Frey, Meisner and Leadon BEFORE the Eagles 1st LP. They were Linda Ronstadt's backing Band at a show at the Kennedy Center (right next to the Watergate) in 1971. JD Souther and Jackson Browne were there too. Good times. Very good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted April 18, 2014 So you are saying that someone that hasn't been playing guitar for 40-some years can't do that? I've been playing guitar for 40 years and am considered a very good player. I can sit down with any group of musicians and hold my own. I have been and continue to get paid to play. What he does with that solo is brilliant. Maybe it takes someone who knows the instrument to see that. I've seen people who have played for two years that just had "it", others who have played for decades and bring nothing to the table. It's not as easy as rote practice and repetition, especially when talking about the ability to deliver something like that live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,629 Posted April 18, 2014 What he does with that solo is brilliant. Maybe it takes someone who knows the instrument to see that. Agreed. I'd love to see "anyone who's been playing guitar for 40 years" attempt the below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epU8jfZRQ68 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,137 Posted April 18, 2014 I've been playing guitar for 40 years and am considered a very good player. I can sit down with any group of musicians and hold my own. I have been and continue to get paid to play. What he does with that solo is brilliant. Maybe it takes someone who knows the instrument to see that. I've seen people who have played for two years that just had "it", others who have played for decades and bring nothing to the table. It's not as easy as rote practice and repetition, especially when talking about the ability to deliver something like that live. True. You have to have the ability to "feel" the music. Otherwise you're just playing notes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,222 Posted April 18, 2014 regarding 80's hairbands..is anyone highly rating their skills or musicianship. I can only think of a few..George Lynch, Warren DeMartini, Slash, if you count singers Geoff Tate, or Don Dokken. particularly Poison, has anyone just out of the blue claimed that Poison was filled with great musicians? like someone else said, they are just known as fun little party band with goofy sex innuendo lyrics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 18, 2014 Sux, this is, in my mind, a much better guitarist. Speed and tone and balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swX9oq6TVAU I really enjoyed those videos you posted! Guy can play, but this is much more in my wheelhouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,043 Posted April 18, 2014 I love the Eagles earlier music most but I like all of it. But edjr before you go, read Don Felder's Heaven & Hell: My Life In The Eagles (1974-2001). Just so you'll know what you're seeing. Btw, I saw Henley, Frey, Meisner and Leadon BEFORE the Eagles 1st LP. They were Linda Ronstadt's backing Band at a show at the Kennedy Center (right next to the Watergate) in 1971. JD Souther and Jackson Browne were there too. Good times. Very good times. Barry Manilow also did backing for Ronstadt. I knocked him off my bucket list last summer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted April 18, 2014 Barry Manilow also did backing for Ronstadt. I knocked him off my bucket list last summer I thought he was Bette Miller's pianist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,199 Posted April 18, 2014 Anyone that has played guitar for as long as he has could do the same thing... You are one weird dood. First of all, what is the relevance of such a comment? People practice their art, be it music, dancing, painting, athletics, whatever... they perform, we enjoy it. Your comment implies that you are incapable of appreciating any such things. It must be sad to be you. Anyway, others have addressed it so I'll add: it is well established here that I am a big believer in "Talent is Overrated," and so if somebody put in the necessary amount of deliberate practice, and the right kinds of deliberate practice, they could probably achieve such a level of proficiency. There can of course be physical limitations (e.g., finger length and width), or intellectual limitations (e.g., developing efficient brain processing of music during early development), which put a virtual ceiling on such competence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,629 Posted April 19, 2014 Sux, this is, in my mind, a much better guitarist. Speed and tone and balls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swX9oq6TVAU I really enjoyed those videos you posted! Guy can play, but this is much more in my wheelhouse. That was sweet I've heard of him before, but after watching the above vid, I don't think I've ever seen him play. Nice bends. Thanx for sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,629 Posted April 19, 2014 Also, PISL, I think we can both agree that the below is for lack of a better werd, EPIC This sh1t in your wheelhouse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted April 19, 2014 I called him Steven, he called me Big Guy. In my top five that I've seen live. Killer version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,273 Posted April 19, 2014 The rolling stones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,629 Posted April 21, 2014 I called him Steven, he called me Big Guy. In my top five that I've seen live. Killer version. You actually met and were frineds with the man? :bow down: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,552 Posted April 21, 2014 I called him Steven, he called me Big Guy. In my top five that I've seen live. Killer version. You actually met and were frineds with the man? :bow down: I know that back in the day, Paul was some sort of musician with a hit song, but that's all I know...wish he'd fill us in on those details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 822 Posted April 21, 2014 The Doors The "rap" musics and hippity hops in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted April 21, 2014 Sadly, I agree with this as well, even though I love their music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 822 Posted April 21, 2014 regarding 80's hairbands..is anyone highly rating their skills or musicianship. I can only think of a few..George Lynch, Warren DeMartini, Slash, if you count singers Geoff Tate, or Don Dokken. particularly Poison, has anyone just out of the blue claimed that Poison was filled with great musicians? like someone else said, they are just known as fun little party band with goofy sex innuendo lyrics. Suprisingly I saw Kip Winger playing in The Counts club in vegas earlier this year guesting with the Sin City Sinners .... that focker is a killer musician. So good live. If your in vegas and can ever catch on of their gigs.... check them out. Local band that grabbs old hair band guys to jam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,852 Posted April 21, 2014 Jimmy Buffett GREAT choice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted April 21, 2014 GREAT choice! How so? I'm a huge Jimmy Buffett fan and would be one of the first to admit he's no more than a marginal musician. And most of his fans would agree. He's a passable singer and decent guitar player at best. Jimmy is a great entertainer, not a great musician. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
