FebruarySun 1 Posted October 17, 2015 starting him with confidence this week. I feel like he'll give me just as much production as TJ yeldon. That's some confidence you got for a player on bye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,365 Posted October 17, 2015 This guy is over hyped right now . I see bust . How can he be a bust? Some people are hoping he materializes as a lottery ticket after picking him up from waivers or free agency. I don't think it's going to happen but it's not like most people invested a high draft pick in him or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 17, 2015 No team is going to give up a star talent at any position in the NFL. Seattle has a great player personnel scouting team and for them to let Michael walk for a 7th rounder speaks volume. He's overhyped and its simply dumb to assume Dallas will give him 20 carries if he's averaging the same as randle and McFadden. What has the dude done in his NFL career to warrant a 20 carry game right off the bat? Im not sure why he needs to deserve the carries. If Mcfadden and Randle arent getting the job done, then what else do they have to lose by giving Michael a chance in game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the spanker 28 Posted October 18, 2015 No team is going to give up a star talent at any position in the NFL. Seattle has a great player personnel scouting team and for them to let Michael walk for a 7th rounder speaks volume. He's overhyped and its simply dumb to assume Dallas will give him 20 carries if he's averaging the same as randle and McFadden. What has the dude done in his NFL career to warrant a 20 carry game right off the bat? Did Seattle let Forsett go too? Hmmm? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,488 Posted October 18, 2015 How can he be a bust? Some people are hoping he materializes as a lottery ticket after picking him up from waivers or free agency. I don't think it's going to happen but it's not like most people invested a high draft pick in him or something I use the term bust , because I do t think he will do very will has the Cowboys starter which what it looks like will happen next week . After all that time when he was with the Hawks he never ever came close to performing like most thought he would have . Even the Hawks kept listing him second most of the time on there dept chart and than he would be passed by Turbin . So over all I would say he is and will be a bust . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted October 18, 2015 Im not sure why he needs to deserve the carries. If Mcfadden and Randle arent getting the job done, then what else do they have to lose by giving Michael a chance in game? I think they have bigger issues than the RB position. They ran all over Atlanta at home in the first half and then blew it in the 2nd half when they went away from the run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted October 18, 2015 I use the term bust , because I do t think he will do very will has the Cowboys starter which what it looks like will happen next week . After all that time when he was with the Hawks he never ever came close to performing like most thought he would have . Even the Hawks kept listing him second most of the time on there dept chart and than he would be passed by Turbin . So over all I would say he is and will be a bust . That's my thought too. If he's this super "talented" guy, why can't he beat out a guy like Turbin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 18, 2015 I think they have bigger issues than the RB position. They ran all over Atlanta at home in the first half and then blew it in the 2nd half when they went away from the run. incorrect--they hit three big runs on randle's first 3 carries, and had <2ypc on the other 11 in the first half. big runs are flukey--they're usually the result of a big defensive mistake, a broken play, or a serendipitous playcall. "running all over" a team is consistently putting up a bunch of 5-6 yard runs, not a lot of short gainers punctuated by a home run or two. that's what keeps the chains moving and grinds down a defense. the DAL run game has been consistently mediocre throughout the season, based both on RB play and OL play (leary doesn't look like the same player at all, and free has been very inconsistent). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 18, 2015 That's my thought too. If he's this super "talented" guy, why can't he beat out a guy like Turbin? let me answer with a question--if lynch was such a talented guy, why did he get replaced by fred jackson in BUF? why did BUF let such a stud go for a 4th and a conditional? scheme fit is important. michael had some definite problems at SEA, particularly WRT details and attitude. this is the kind of thing that coaching straightens out, or management gets rid of. but it can't be denied that he has some very good physical tools, so at some point you have to take the new toy out onto the playground and see what you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,365 Posted October 18, 2015 That's my thought too. If he's this super "talented" guy, why can't he beat out a guy like Turbin? Sure, I agree. But that won't make him a "bust" in fantasy football because nobody ever spent a high pick on him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,488 Posted October 19, 2015 let me answer with a question--if lynch was such a talented guy, why did he get replaced by fred jackson in BUF? why did BUF let such a stud go for a 4th and a conditional? scheme fit is important. michael had some definite problems at SEA, particularly WRT details and attitude. this is the kind of thing that coaching straightens out, or management gets rid of. but it can't be denied that he has some very good physical tools, so at some point you have to take the new toy out onto the playground and see what you have. Lynch if I recall had some off field problems and begged to get of Buffalo and they did so . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,488 Posted October 19, 2015 Sure, I agree. But that won't make him a "bust" in fantasy football because nobody ever spent a high pick on him You know your right , when I posted my post it was about his over all playing career , and not so much about fantasy football , so I'm sorry about that , I should have made that more clear . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoBucky1 2 Posted October 19, 2015 Had a die-hard Dallas fan in our league offer me Alshon for Michael straight up on Friday...it worked out well yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DontPushMe 5 Posted October 19, 2015 Rumors are he starts this week. Since he was on bye there's a chance he's still avail in your league and not on waivers. If you have a slot to spare you really should get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 19, 2015 Bottomline: CMike is a swing-4-the-fences type of addition at this point in the season......which may or may not work out. However, it is these types of chances that can win you the Ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 598 Posted October 19, 2015 Was offered 4 awful trades for Michael this week I was offered Hillman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,488 Posted October 19, 2015 I don't see him being the home run that some might think he Could be . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BattleshipLorenzen 3 Posted October 19, 2015 That's my thought too. If he's this super "talented" guy, why can't he beat out a guy like Turbin? I find the "doesn't get the running style" hypothesis plausible. In SEA, you're supposed to aim for a "dark crease" - a spot or lane that is not open yet but will be when the RB gets there (if I understand it correctly). If a runner doesn't get that (and is enough of a head case to try to waive Lynch off the field), then the talent doesn't matter. Wasn't DMC's last good year in OAK in a power run scheme? Coaching changes led to the team implementing a zone blocking scheme instead, and DMC stank even without injuries. If I recall correctly, it was a pretty stark and sudden contrast. Had a die-hard Dallas fan in our league offer me Alshon for Michael straight up on Friday...it worked out well yesterday. Niiice. I've been offered Knile for him, in a keeper league, last week...no thanks. I THINK I would have taken Jeffrey before the CHI game, but I'm not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 476 Posted October 19, 2015 No team is going to give up a star talent at any position in the NFL. We could start a thread, but it would kill Mike's new hamster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 19, 2015 We could start a thread, but it would kill Mike's new hamster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted October 19, 2015 I'd rather have Michael than Starks. Not because of anything on film I've seen from Michael, but because I don't believe that Starks is the answer. James Starks' long TD run came because of a blown assignment by Melvin Ingram. He had no business overpursuing in coverage. If he contains the edge that run gets stuffed at the LOS. Again, context is everything. The Chargers are far and away one of the worst rush defenses in the NFL. Additionally, with the bye week, Starks' touches on a weekly basis could be reduced if Lacy heals up. As for Michael, he gets a chance at a starting gig when the Cowboys are getting closer to being healthy. I don't care about the difference between Romo/Cassel/Weeden. I care about the no-Dez aspect for that offense. If/When he comes back, it's going to open up the offense to run the ball better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 19, 2015 Both fish and broaddus agree that Cmike will start vs NYG. that's 2 of the most plugged-in beat guys in DFW, so this is very credible info. http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015/10/19/9570179/has-christine-michael-won-dallas-cowboys-starting-running-back-job-over-joseph-randle 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,488 Posted October 20, 2015 Most long td runs are because of a mistake made by the defense . Not all but most , someone made a mistake in their assignment . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gipaldo 8 Posted October 20, 2015 We can guess all we want, but we just got to wait two weeks to see how it shakes out. Coaches said they will open him up this week, but that could mean 7 carries or 20, who knows. Point is, not a lot of players have this much potential at such a low cost, especially if you picked him up as a FA and didn't wait a waiver spot. I wouldn't go trading away a starter for him, but it things sure sound more promising than they did 4 weeks ago. If you got to drop him in three weeks because he didnt do anything, who cares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yseguy22 8 Posted October 20, 2015 C-Mike is going to get a chance. That's about all you can ask for from a waiver wire bench stash. What he does with that opportunity remains to be seen but there is big upside behind that Dallas offensive line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,365 Posted October 20, 2015 C-Mike is going to get a chance. That's about all you can ask for from a waiver wire bench stash. What he does with that opportunity remains to be seen but there is big upside behind that Dallas offensive line. This guy gets it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eventfulcards 0 Posted October 20, 2015 Well, with Lacy blowing chunks and Jamaal Charles on IR, my last chance for a successful season is CM performing like DeMarco last year. NBA draft here I come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas10 15 Posted October 20, 2015 Well, with Lacy blowing chunks and Jamaal Charles on IR, my last chance for a successful season is CM performing like DeMarco last year. NBA draft here I come. This is similar to my situation, I have McCoy and West(ugh) as my starters at RB, Tevin Coleman on the bench as a stash and I dropped Karlos for CMike because I can't have a bunch of handcuffs. Only roster 4 RBs in my league. I'm betting it doesn't work out as are most I think but I have to take the chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,605 Posted October 20, 2015 I am 1 and 5. FML. Starting him this week. fock it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 20, 2015 I am 1 and 5. FML. Starting him this week. fock it Now you're cooking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted October 20, 2015 let me answer with a question--if lynch was such a talented guy, why did he get replaced by fred jackson in BUF? why did BUF let such a stud go for a 4th and a conditional? scheme fit is important. michael had some definite problems at SEA, particularly WRT details and attitude. this is the kind of thing that coaching straightens out, or management gets rid of. but it can't be denied that he has some very good physical tools, so at some point you have to take the new toy out onto the playground and see what you have. Correct. And Baltimore cut Priest Holmes before he landed in Kansas City. Eagles cut Dion Lewis. It happens all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 20, 2015 Correct. And Baltimore cut Priest Holmes before he landed in Kansas City. Eagles cut Dion Lewis. It happens all the time. Even Dallas cut Jimmy Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 993 Posted October 21, 2015 Correct. And Baltimore cut Priest Holmes before he landed in Kansas City. Eagles cut Dion Lewis. It happens all the time. And Atlanta traded Favre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted October 21, 2015 And Atlanta traded Favre. To be fair, 3200/18/13 and 3300/19/24 for his first two years weren't all that amazing (better than what we'd been dealing with, granted). Guys who get cut sometimes get cut because they aren't maximizing potential now. But point taken overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,069 Posted October 21, 2015 Kurt Warner was bagging groceries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 21, 2015 Kurt Warner was bagging groceries Chuck Norris was tea bagging volcanos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted October 21, 2015 Rich Gannon lost a job to Elvis Grbac before Gruden turned him into an MVP in Oakland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megatron's mom 6 Posted October 21, 2015 I like pizza Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 21, 2015 I like pizza Are you just saying you like pizza or do you really like pizza? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,605 Posted October 21, 2015 Isn't Dallas down 2 offensive lineman, or did I dream that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
