AFC Wildcard - Steelers at Benglas Game Thread

[Beyond Chaos 75]

Can coaches run on field whenever

I would guess Porter was on the field to check on Brown after that hit and apparently throw in his 2 cents to the refs discussion. I don't see a problem with a coach going onto the field to check on a player after a brutal hit like that and I can't see placing the blame on him for what the Bengals players did. It wasn't like he was out there throwing punches or pushing people around from what I saw.

[uwmalcolm 74]

Two African American coaches

Seriously dude...why mention this?

[giraldi02 474]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

[weepaws 3,191]

Hill just needed to hang unto the ball , His fumble is the play that cost them the game .

[ZeroTolerance 584]

You never go full Bengals.

[R8RMick 242]

Raiders played Pittsburgh and Cincinnati this year and BOTH were highly chippy affairs. And these teams HATE each other.

 

Oh, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job?

[Rincewind 0]

Hill just needed to hang unto the ball , His fumble is the play that cost them the game .

 

Even that they could have managed if not for those bonehead 30 yards penalties.

Steelers were at the middle with 2nd and 10, zero timeouts and not even 20 secs left. They needed a miracle (and they got it )

[CornKobb 48]

Seriously dude...why mention this?

It's mentioned every time they do something good, must be a habit

 

Blah blah blah

[CornKobb 48]

No control, like a fight at a roller skating rink in the 80s

 

Looked like a scene from the show OZ

 

Complete idiots

[R8RMick 242]

Am in Europe so just watching this game on AFN. This is like Game of Thrones. Cut throat football with absolutely no honor.

 

Shazier's hit was a spear. Period. Though current rules actually allowed for the Steelers to gain possession. Headhunting in football is parallel to Pedro Martinez throwing at a batter's head in baseball.

 

These refs should've just starting throwing clowns out from the get-go. Burfect, Shazier etc... Without honor in football, one day somebody is going to be critically hurt for life. As a Raider fan I remember Darryl Stingley vividly.

[Beyond Chaos 75]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

You mean bad officiating like blowing the play dead too early after Shazier recovered a fumble and ran it back for a TD? No doubt this was a terribly officiated game, but either you have a short term memory or you do not watch much NFL football. This type of officiating is par for the course this year, far from the worst but down there among the long, long list of terribly officiated games this year.

[Sho Nuff 720]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

 

He targeted a defenseless receiver with his shoulder making contact with his head.

Had his head up when the ball went past Brown too.

He did not clearly keep a shoulder in...didn't pull up. He targeted on a head hunting hit and the flag was 100% justified. As is the big fine coming his way.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport?

Haha!!!!

[Sho Nuff 720]

You mean bad officiating like blowing the play dead too early after Shazier recovered a fumble and ran it back for a TD? No doubt this was a terribly officiated game, but either you have a short term memory or you do not watch much NFL football. This type of officiating is par for the course this year, far from the worst but down there among the long, long list of terribly officiated games this year.

 

Well, that hit should have been flagged too...leading with the crown of his helmet outside of the tackle box.

 

Not only could he have ended Gio's career...its a dumb hit in that is how you end your own career by screwing up your neck.

[redsrback 30]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

Stop drinking the water in Cincy,no doubt Burfict had a thirst to hurt somebody, rather he decided to not lead with the crown after he realized the incomplete pass and just stick the elbow out - which he did do, is besides the point.

Big Ben getting things thrown at him is unwarranted. Lets keep in mind we are sitting in our living rooms and getting break-downs of the play as to why the hit was legal on Benard and accepting this to be gospel. Sitting in the stands this gray area of officiating would look like an obvious injustice watching the replays.

Interesting to note, after the game I turned it to ESPN and they had an retired official on who said it was a personal foul on Benard because by letter of the law you can not lead with the helmet. Personally as a fan I think it all falls on intent and see a defender trying to use his helmet to put a hit on the ball with Benard an equal participant in lowering his helmet. Where do we go next training 4 foot midgets to get low so every pay is unnecessary roughness?

[murf74 461]

Personally as a fan I think it all falls on intent and see a defender trying to use his helmet to put a hit on the ball with Benard an equal participant in lowering his helmet. Where do we go next training 4 foot midgets to get low so every pay is unnecessary roughness?

 

The difference in Shazier's hit is he was going for a wrap up tackle with both him and the ball career going forward with a full football move. Burfect totally lined up that shoulder to the head..

 

Nobody in the NFL tackles with their head up with face on the ball anymore. Shazier, watch it was a legit wrap up tackle if he didn't have his head down.in fact the helmet eventually I believe helped knock the ball out. If his face was up they would show the replay of an example of a text book tackle.

 

http://deadspin.com/giovani-bernard-and-the-unfortunate-hit-that-knocked-1752060073

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

You mean bad officiating like blowing the play dead too early after Shazier recovered a fumble and ran it back for a TD? No doubt this was a terribly officiated game, but either you have a short term memory or you do not watch much NFL football. This type of officiating is par for the course this year, far from the worst but down there among the long, long list of terribly officiated games this year.

It was a fast play that the refs thought was incomplete. I cant fault them for that one.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

[giraldi02 474]

Markus Wheaton takes three and a half steps and is defenseless.

 

Go Bernard barely takes two steps and is speared to the shoulder/neck/helmet.

 

Yeah...I'm drinking kool-aid. Comical.

[giraldi02 474]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/684851037451096064

 

Notice how Joey Porter was allowed onto the field to antagonize the Bengals? Funny how he's going to get fined for being on the field...yet he can talk trash to the Bengals players and induce an additional 15 yard penalty (which changed the winning FG from 50 yards to 35).

 

Dean Blandino must love that party bus and his turrible towel.

[weepaws 3,191]

Even that they could have managed if not for those bonehead 30 yards penalties.

Steelers were at the middle with 2nd and 10, zero timeouts and not even 20 secs left. They needed a miracle (and they got it )

But if Hill did not fumble the ball the Bengals might have scored and put the game away , that to me was the biggest play of the game . That fumble gave the Steelers the shot they received to win that game .

[Franknbeans 46]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

 

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

[Kent 228]

That Burfict hit was bull. Watch the replay. He pulled up. Yeah he hit him, but he clearly kept the elbow and shoulder in. He did his best as a moving cannon to minimalize the damage. The NFL is a pansy league. Tonight marked the cut to the artery. The blood is dripping down.

Worst officiated game in the history of the sport.

Hitting a defenseless wr has been against the rules for quite some time now. Not a totally bad call.

 

I agree it's a pansy league now though.

[SpenceToons 70]

Oh, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job?

 

1. Well, obviously, the 5 straight playoff appearances are a stark contrast to the decades of ineptitude that transpired before his arrival.

 

2. In one year of that run of 5, CIN had lost both OC Gruden and DC Zimmer and Lewis would have been excused for missing a beat, but the streak continued.

 

3. At this time of year, many franchises lose coaches to resignations and firings. When the Bengals have coaching vacancies to fill, it's because their assistants have been promoted or have been hired away by other clubs.

 

4. The loss of Dalton had the potential to derail the Bengals, but the substitute QB was well-enough selected and well-enough coached that the backup actually managed to place CIN in a position to secure the victory last night.

 

5. Several years ago Lewis spearheaded an effort to revamp how the Bengals approach the draft, and they've received good grades and good players since. Past Bengals drafts could often be characterized as shots in the dark.

 

There's room for improvement. He could use more courage to confront and discipline a hothead like Burfict. But most Bengals games are drama-free affairs. It's showdowns with the Steelers that stir the cauldron into a real witches brew.

 

 

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[murf74 461]

Players now turning on coach ....from pro football talk

 

 

While Jones defended himself and Burfict, others in the Bengals locker room werent so thrilled. Tackle Andrew Whitworth said that players need to do a better job of controlling their emotions and another who didnt want to be named complained about the leeway given by Marvin Lewis and his coaching staff.

 

You put up with enough [expletive] for enough time, guys think they can continually do it, the Bengals player said.

[Boilermaker04 11]

This should be the end of Lewis in CIN, but he's already past due so who knows. Such an astoundingly stupid way to lose a game...

 

Gotta have sympathy for CIN fans, at least the classy ones. They can't get a break.

[giraldi02 474]

Marvin Lewis should've been fired the second Boswell's kick went through the uprights. He has zero control of his players and he never has.

 

While I remain adamant about the piss poor officiating (the worst of which was the Wheaton/Bernard double standard hits), how did Lewis not tell his players to not let emotion get the best of them?

 

Everyone knew there was going to be attempts by both sides to rile up the other team. Porter should have been given an offsetting flag with Pacman. He didn't...but Pacman can't do that. And therein lies the rub. You can look the other way when a player like that contributes towards your success. But when they contribute towards your demise then what?

 

If the Bengals are smart...they'd fire Lewis and try to retain Hue Jackson themselves. I can't think of a franchise other than the Steelers that allowed so much patience in a coach. But at least Cowher won a playoff game here and there before finally winning the Super Bowl. Lewis is a coordinator. Not a head coach. The inmates ran the asylum

[giraldi02 474]

Gotta have sympathy for CIN fans, at least the classy ones. They can't get a break.

If that game was played in Philadelphia the media would be talking about it for the next 20 years.

 

But since it wasn't a drunk Santa Claus(e) they'll brush it off as a few bad apples. You could hear the cheers when Cheeseburger got hurt. Seemed much louder than the Eagles and Irvin

[Quickolas1 80]

Marvin Lewis should've been fired the second Boswell's kick went through the uprights. He has zero control of his players and he never has.

 

I don't disagree but that old tightwad GM is the one that consistently ignores players' troubled histories (and attitudes) when making roster decisions.

I'm not sure a head coach change alone will do all that much.

[kutulu 1,676]

Bad luck for the Benglas again. I like big Ben leading Pitt.

nailed it

[jgcrawfish 232]

If that game was played in Philadelphia the media would be talking about it for the next 20 years.

 

But since it wasn't a drunk Santa Claus(e) they'll brush it off as a few bad apples. You could hear the cheers when Cheeseburger got hurt. Seemed much louder than the Eagles and Irvin

Stay classy Cincy...

 

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/01/ben-roethlisberger-carted-to-locker-room-after-sack-by-vontaze-burfict/

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Stay classy Cincy...

 

http://sportsnaut.com/2016/01/ben-roethlisberger-carted-to-locker-room-after-sack-by-vontaze-burfict/

Pathetic. Glad they lost

[weepaws 3,191]

The game was awful , and than a hockey game broke out , and than it was exciting , and than Hill fumbled and blew it .

[CornKobb 48]

Jeremy Hill , perfect ending to a horrible season. He is not a good football player.

 

Yes I drafted the turd

[R8RMick 242]

Oh, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job?

 

1. Well, obviously, the 5 straight playoff appearances are a stark contrast to the decades of ineptitude that transpired before his arrival.

 

2. In one year of that run of 5, CIN had lost both OC Gruden and DC Zimmer and Lewis would have been excused for missing a beat, but the streak continued.

 

3. At this time of year, many franchises lose coaches to resignations and firings. When the Bengals have coaching vacancies to fill, it's because their assistants have been promoted or have been hired away by other clubs.

 

4. The loss of Dalton had the potential to derail the Bengals, but the substitute QB was well-enough selected and well-enough coached that the backup actually managed to place CIN in a position to secure the victory last night.

 

5. Several years ago Lewis spearheaded an effort to revamp how the Bengals approach the draft, and they've received good grades and good players since. Past Bengals drafts could often be characterized as shots in the dark.

 

There's room for improvement. He could use more courage to confront and discipline a hothead like Burfict. But most Bengals games are drama-free affairs. It's showdowns with the Steelers that stir the cauldron into a real witches brew.

 

 

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The current Cincinnati playoff losing streak began with Bo Jackson's last game as a Raider. Lewis is responsible for a large percentage of that losing. I mean, you make great points. He's had success building winning teams. Well, at least in the regular season. And I DO like the Bengals drafts the last few years. My take actually has nothing to do with his team being perceived as a camp of uncontrollable thugs. I just feel some coaches don't possess what it takes to win at a higher level. Lewis is one of those coaches.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

3 guys talking the most sh!t (Burfict, Jones and Hill) had Karma deal them a nice sh!tburger to choke on. All had a hand in gift wrapping that win for Steelers.

 

Hopefully Ben, Brown and DeAngelo will be back next week in Denver.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

Jeremy Hill , perfect ending to a horrible season. He is not a good football player.

 

Yes I drafted the turd

Yeah he isnt good. People were all over him as a great rb. I thought his struggles this year were nice to see, especially for how much crap i took for challenging how good he is.

[cmh6476 1,025]

3 guys talking the most sh!t (Burfict, Jones and Hill) had Karma deal them a nice sh!tburger to choke on. All had a hand in gift wrapping that win for Steelers.

 

Hopefully Ben, Brown and DeAngelo will be back next week in Denver.

kick their ass, so we can host the steelers next week

[jgcrawfish 232]

kick their ass, so we can host the steelers next week

 

Chefs continue to amaze me. I can't tell whether that was all their defense or just a dose of Bad Bryan Hoyer, probably both. New England better be on the lookout because KC is playing well.

 

Next up, Denver is going down!

[giraldi02 474]

kick their ass, so we can host the steelers next week

 

TBH...if the Chiefs can win in Foxboro...I don't think it matters who they play. They might dominate regardless.

[Vince44 205]

What type of dirty secrets does Lewis have on Brown?

 

0-7 in the playoffs.....0-4 at home....with 5 straight losses.