Voltaire 5,454 Posted February 14, 2016 What if Obama appoints Bill Clinton? I don't see it happening but the shizzstorm would be awesome. My worst nightmare. I consider that bet un-loseable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted February 14, 2016 Timmy is consistently stupid and wrong. HTH Another insult. Use your words counselor. Plus I am always right when you disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted February 14, 2016 In a brilliant strategic move, Obama will soon Name Donald Trump As the next member of SCOTUS. Paving the way for Hilary To become president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted February 14, 2016 Another insult. Use your words counselor. Plus I am always right when you disagree. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted February 14, 2016 Sometimes you might nominate an ideologue first so your second guy seems not so bad in comparison. Kinda like when George W nominated the lady from down the hall as his first choice so Alito seemed like a good option since he was at least competent and qualified. But I don't think that's the situation here. Obama will go straight to a should-be consensus choice and then demand the republicans quit obstructing. Republicans will try to come up with some reason this person supposedly isn't fit but it will ring hollow. Bump for timmy, poor fella's too dumb to see these words Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,412 Posted February 14, 2016 And immediately on the DNC website there is a fundraising page dedicated to replacing Scalia. Using his death to raise money for themselves. They both do it Worms. The fact is the process of naming a SC Justice takes time. I think they should all (media and politicians) at least give the man 24-48 hrs of respect. There is plenty of time for all this other stuff. Seems weird. KSB is right. The man just died and is spending his first day of the rest of eternity in the pits of hell---have some respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 14, 2016 calm down white people, no one is putting you in chains. he'll probably nominate an indian. racist much, you should stop using racism as a crutch. Maybe you'll grow up and get a job. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 14, 2016 Was it bill or Hillary that was disbarred ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,412 Posted February 14, 2016 Was it bill or Hillary that was disbarred ? Good question, Simple Jack, way to stay on point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 14, 2016 Good question, Simple Jack, way to stay on point. could they serve if they were ? Someone brought the Clinton's up, not me captain kunthead You can't quit me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,412 Posted February 14, 2016 could they serve if they were ? Someone brought the Clinton's up, not me captain kunthead You can't quit me So you don't know which Clinton was disbarred, or the fact that it wouldn't disqualify them from being on the SCOTUS....thanks for clearing that up Simple Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted February 14, 2016 Justice Scalia's brother ESPN personality Chris Berman Has expressed his regret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,421 Posted February 14, 2016 racist much, you should stop using racism as a crutch. Maybe you'll grow up and get a job. Yeah Peeners.....I wouldn't be slightly annoyed by what you said if "YOU PEOPLE" wouldn't always biotch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted February 14, 2016 The Republican Party I grew up with was fiscally responsible (mostly, that Laffer dillweed's theories were gathering strength). The Dems have always consistently sucked. I use to care about this stuff deeply too. We've had fifteen straight years of presidents who don't care about balancing the budget with another five years on tap. I thought fiscal irresponsibility would collapse the government like a house of cards, instead it seems to slowly deflate like a balloon I blow up for my daughter three days later that still has air in it but isn't worth playing with. The US has hidden strength that can overcome a lot and is more resilient than I gave it credit for. The Wile E. Coyote looking down moment hasn't occurred yet. At least Gary still has a party invested in his world view. John Kasich is all that's left of politicians that share mine. In Michigan, we're fortunate to have Snyder but he's being hammered on this Flint water fiasco. I just sit here overseas being all gloomy and stuff but still fascinated by it all. I do not really think I have a party. I HATE the GOP more than the Democrats at this point. Sure, there are a few GOPers I am okay with, but I am not nearly as excited about Cruz as I was when this whole thing started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted February 14, 2016 KSB is right. The man just died and is spending his first day of the rest of eternity in the pits of hell---have some respect. I realize you're being facetious, but seriously. I heard he died yesterday, turned on the news and all everybody was talking about was the politics of it all. That is obviously important but damn. I didn't see one news piece on the man himself, his career, legacy, nothing. It was weird. Wether you agree or disagree with his 'politics'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted February 14, 2016 I realize you're being facetious, but seriously. I heard he died yesterday, turned on the news and all everybody was talking about was the politics of it all. That is obviously important but damn. I didn't see one news piece on the man himself, his career, legacy, nothing. It was weird. Wether you agree or disagree with his 'politics'. Now that you mention it, you're right. Whether or not you agree with him, the guy was a Supreme Court justice, it's pretty impressive. I would be interested in more about his life than his politics. I'm sure his family would like that too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,421 Posted February 14, 2016 http://johnmichaelchambers.com/scalia-and-the-season-of-treason/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted February 15, 2016 HTH Still focking elated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted February 15, 2016 Now that you mention it, you're right. Whether or not you agree with him, the guy was a Supreme Court justice, it's pretty impressive. I would be interested in more about his life than his politics. I'm sure his family would like that too. I think it's in very poor taste the people that are trashing him. He wasn't my favorite but he was definitely a distinguished and influential jurist. Let's focus on that for a few days before dancing on his grave or preemptive it declaring that the president somehow can't exercise the power granted to him under the Constitution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,412 Posted February 15, 2016 I think it's in very poor taste the people that are trashing him. He wasn't my favorite but he was definitely a distinguished and influential jurist. Let's focus on that for a few days before dancing on his grave or preemptive it declaring that the president somehow can't exercise the power granted to him under the Constitution. 'dancing on his grave'....wrong verb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted February 15, 2016 'dancing on his grave'....wrong verb. That too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,908 Posted February 15, 2016 Why is he such a great legal mind? Everyone knew exactly which way he was going to vote on any case that came before the court. Save the accolades for people that actually used their minds instead of always falling back on ideology. He could be replaced by any other conservative and the outcomes would have all been the same. A lot of hot air and a vote everyone could see coming a mile away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted February 15, 2016 Why is he such a great legal mind? Everyone knew exactly which way he was going to vote on any case that came before the court. Save the accolades for people that actually used their minds instead of always falling back on ideology. He could be replaced by any other conservative and the outcomes would have all been the same. A lot of hot air and a vote everyone could see coming a mile away. Towards the end, sure. But he was quite influential in the 80s and 90s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,412 Posted February 15, 2016 Towards the end, sure. But he was quite influential in the 80s and 90s So was MTV, but that was a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,062 Posted February 15, 2016 So was MTV, but that was a long time ago. Yep, it was. But we're reflecting about the man's whole life here. Ever heard of a little thing called "perspective"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted February 15, 2016 I realize you're being facetious, but seriously. I heard he died yesterday, turned on the news and all everybody was talking about was the politics of it all. That is obviously important but damn. I didn't see one news piece on the man himself, his career, legacy, nothing. It was weird. Wether you agree or disagree with his 'politics'. Well he was kind of a Kunt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 15, 2016 Lotta vile hate from the liberals here. Can't say I'm surprised the fruitcake warmers would behave this way....its how they were raised. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,835 Posted February 15, 2016 Lotta vile hate from the liberals here. Can't say I'm surprised the fruitcake warmers would behave this way....its how they were raised. From the guy who creamed his shorts over Benghazi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,412 Posted February 15, 2016 Yep, it was. But we're reflecting about the man's whole life here. Ever heard of a little thing called "perspective"? I believe my "perspecitve" on his entire life and legacy is spot on, honestly, I should be complimented for my restraint in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 15, 2016 Well he was kind of a Kuntwhy because his rulings were all based on the Constitution ? Isn't that their job ? Why do liberals hate the Constitution ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted February 15, 2016 why because his rulings were all based on the Constitution ? Isn't that their job ? Why do liberals hate the Constitution ? The founders meant for the constitution to constantly evolve. I know this would require reading on your part, but try to expand your horizons! HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 648 Posted February 15, 2016 The founders meant for the constitution to constantly evolve. I know this would require reading on your part, but try to expand your horizons! HTH Evolved to the point that the federal gubmint is involved in virtually every aspect of our daily lives? Where would one read this? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted February 15, 2016 Evolved to the point that the federal gubmint is involved in virtually every aspect of our daily lives? Where would one read this?Nice try. Not what I said. Srsly read Jefferson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted February 15, 2016 I think its amusing that the republicans want Obama to leave the decision to the next president. Why in the fock would he do that? No one would really expect a republican pres to do the same in the same situation. It's so funny how constitutionalists hate the constitution when it isn't convenient for them. It's pretty focking clear what the document says. the president "shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Judges of the Supreme Court". Not he "can" appoint, but he "shall" appoint. It is his and only his responsibility to do so, before he leaves office. Anything else would be unconstitutional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted February 15, 2016 It's complete BS that Obama would try and nominate a judge when he only has a year left. Lame duck, and all. In fact, he shouldn't really be allowed to do anything at all this year. It's not fair to the next president. And in truth, last year he was on the precipice of only having a year left, so he shouldn't have worked then either. 2014 is borderline, as he was obviously on his way out, as the Presidency isn't permanent. And so many of the things he did even back then will have ramifications beyond his term. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted February 15, 2016 The reality of the SC is you never quite know which way a judge will go, except for women, you get what you get with them. I'd be curious how this assertion really shakes out. I could see that with Sotomayor, and probably Kagan to a large degree, but otherwise, it just sounds like an arbitrary criticism (because they're there to discern and honor precedent and decipher established intent, not rule...this is bascally saying the chicks don't actually do the job how it's meant to be done). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted February 15, 2016 Good Scalia quote: “It is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create ‘liberties’ that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,421 Posted February 15, 2016 SCALIA FOUND DEAD WITH 'PILLOW OVER HEAD http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Texas-ranch-owner-recalls-Scalia-s-last-hours-6830372.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,054 Posted February 15, 2016 I believe my "perspecitve" on his entire life and legacy is spot on, honestly, I should be complimented for my restraint in this thread. Congrats for being an adult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted February 15, 2016 Good Scalia quote: “It is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact—and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create ‘liberties’ that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.” As he votes against equality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites