Bledsoe's Bills 1 Posted September 20, 2016 Which one will get the bulk of the carries? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted September 20, 2016 McKinnon , but he won't get the bulk of the goal line work or be used has often in the passing game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graphix28 10 Posted September 20, 2016 Anyone know if AP is out for more than a week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 20, 2016 Anyone know if AP is out for more than a week? The timetable for Adrian Peterson's return from a torn meniscus will depend on the severity of the injury and how the doctors choose to treat it. The best-case scenario would be for Peterson to avoid surgery, which could allow him to return in a couple weeks. Peterson has two options if he needs to go under the knife. Having the meniscus trimmed or removed could allow him to come back as early as Week 7, but that surgery is unlikely to offer a complete recovery. If Peterson chooses to have the meniscus repaired, he could be looking at a 3-4 month timetable. Until all of those decisions are made, Peterson's status is completely up in the air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullog 12 Posted September 20, 2016 McKinnon all the way and he should get better the more they feed him the rock. Agree with weepaws about goal line and passing game though which will limit his ceiling. Plus the next 3 matchups will be tough: @CAR, NYG, HOU. Disclaimer: NOT a McKinnon owner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 47 Posted September 21, 2016 Peterson out for several months: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000706867/article/peterson-to-repair-torn-meniscus-miss-several-months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erknjerk 4 Posted September 21, 2016 Any chance Hillman takes over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 21, 2016 Any chance Hillman takes over? He is just nothing special. A solid rb, but Mckinnon has to have more potential at this point right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackills 19 Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah.. i remember a couple of years ago when everyone was yelling Mckinon when AP got hurt.. yet Asiata got all the ffball action and TDs. I am buying Asiata.. Mckinon is worthless 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah.. i remember a couple of years ago when everyone was yelling Mckinon when AP got hurt.. yet Asiata got all the ffball action and TDs. I am buying Asiata.. Mckinon is worthless Same, he ruined my season when I traded a then silent JHill for new hotness Mckinnon coming off a good game. Jerrick then did nothing while Asiata scored 3tds a game and JHill took over the entire league. Mckinnon is a piss bum. Picked him up in one league cuz im bad and never learn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 21, 2016 Same, he ruined my season when I traded a then silent JHill for new hotness Mckinnon coming off a good game. Jerrick then did nothing while Asiata scored 3tds a game and JHill took over the entire league. Mckinnon is a piss bum. Picked him up in one league cuz im bad and never learn. You have a shlt memory. Asiata sucked besides a few multi td games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 21, 2016 You have a shlt memory. Asiata sucked besides a few multi td games. Thats exactly what I said, my memory of the situation is as if it happened yesterday. Asiata had multiple td games and Mckinnon sucked. They both sucked really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinsrule05 30 Posted September 21, 2016 Yeah.. i remember a couple of years ago when everyone was yelling Mckinon when AP got hurt.. yet Asiata got all the ffball action and TDs. I am buying Asiata.. Mckinon is worthless Do you mean a couple of years ago when he was a rookie and making the shift from college QB to RB? And you are surprised they didn't hand the reigns over to him then? Asiata is slow and averages 3.5 ypc. In 2015 McKinnon had zero experience so they gave the rock to asiata especially at the goal line. McKinnon has ridiculous measurable and averages 4.9 ypc. There is probably more to it but who do you think Minny wants to put in there. One hint, they named McKinnon the starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikes_Fan 8 Posted September 21, 2016 McKinnon is still available in my league. Here's the question, is he worth a start over guys like Crowell, Ware, Murray, Freeman, and Gordon? I'd think he'd be the primary back in Minny, but that O-line has looked horrible so far and he may not get goal line carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted September 21, 2016 Crowell, Ware, Murray, Freeman, and Gordon? Yes, No, No, Yes, No. Crowell, if I owned him, would be in wait and see mode. Team is on 3rd string QB, and just lost their (arguably) best WR to a broken hand today. Is anyone in the world not going to stack the box all day long? Ware: gets another start this week, looks like. Murray: playing great so far, Henry not eating into his carries too much yet. Freeman: I'm down on him. This looks like the Coleman show just waiting to happen. Gordon: he's playing like a stud right now, keep him in until he proves otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 21, 2016 Yes, No, No, Yes, No. Crowell, if I owned him, would be in wait and see mode. Team is on 3rd string QB, and just lost their (arguably) best WR to a broken hand today. Is anyone in the world not going to stack the box all day long? Ware: gets another start this week, looks like. Murray: playing great so far, Henry not eating into his carries too much yet. Freeman: I'm down on him. This looks like the Coleman show just waiting to happen. Gordon: he's playing like a stud right now, keep him in until he proves otherwise. To be fair, down or not Freeman is must start vs Saints this week as are pretty much all players on both teams. Would not start a piss bum like Jerrick over him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted September 21, 2016 To be fair, down or not Freeman is must start vs Saints this week as are pretty much all players on both teams. Would not start a piss bum like Jerrick over him. Counterpoint: Vikes are stoked about beating the Packers, and doubly stoked about how good Bradford did. I think they play well in this game, with a 'win one for the gimper' attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 21, 2016 Counterpoint: Vikes are stoked about beating the Packers, and doubly stoked about how good Bradford did. I think they play well in this game, with a 'win one for the gimper' attitude. They also lost Kalil, one of their best lineman. Play well or not, facing the saints is fantasy gold and the Falcons are playing well. even in a timeshare Freeman is a high end play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikes_Fan 8 Posted September 22, 2016 They also lost Kalil, one of their best lineman. Play well or not, facing the saints is fantasy gold and the Falcons are playing well. even in a timeshare Freeman is a high end play. disagree with bolded. Kalil has had potential, but really hasn't met it. He was a turn style against the Pack... now that said, TJ Clemmings is worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted September 22, 2016 They also lost Kalil, one of their best lineman. Play well or not, facing the saints is fantasy gold and the Falcons are playing well. even in a timeshare Freeman is a high end play. Kalil is average at best, and a bust for his draft position. This year their runs off left tackle have the second lowest adjusted line yards for any of their running. Last year MN was 30th in the league for Left Tackle runs (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2015). He's so mediocre they ran off left tackle 7% of the time last year. Kalil actually has PFF's worst grade of all their linemen this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackills 19 Posted September 22, 2016 Do you mean a couple of years ago when he was a rookie and making the shift from college QB to RB? And you are surprised they didn't hand the reigns over to him then? Asiata is slow and averages 3.5 ypc. In 2015 McKinnon had zero experience so they gave the rock to asiata especially at the goal line. McKinnon has ridiculous measurable and averages 4.9 ypc. There is probably more to it but who do you think Minny wants to put in there. One hint, they named McKinnon the starter. yeah, yeah.. if measurables amounting to good football player every first round pick would pan out. He played ok a couple of years ago but then still lost all goal line carries to Asiata. Min O-line is terrible and neither guy is a good pcikup but Asiata will still get you those mutli td games with 20yds rushing. Mckinon will get you 50rushing and 20receiving... that's it. more upside for points with Asiata. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 22, 2016 I put $400 on the Vikings getting 7. I hope they use the more dynamic Mckinnon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,912 Posted September 22, 2016 I put $400 on the Vikings getting 7. I hope they use the more dynamic Mckinnon Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 822 Posted September 22, 2016 Min O-line is terrible and neither guy is a good pcikup That's the consensus I'm hearing and it makes sense. Healthy Adrian Peterson couldn't run behind that line. So what happened to that O-line from last year when Peterson ran wild? Did they lose some lineman to free agency, retirement or injury? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrdman5 104 Posted September 22, 2016 That's the consensus I'm hearing and it makes sense. Healthy Adrian Peterson couldn't run behind that line. So what happened to that O-line from last year when Peterson ran wild? Did they lose some lineman to free agency, retirement or injury? Sullivan was cut because they didn't think he could stay healthy. Loadholt retired.Added Andre Smith and Alex Boone. It's been 2 games, it takes awhile for a line to gel. AP had a bad first game last year. And was off to a horrible start this year. Maybe the defenses the vikes played are improved against the run from last year. The line is bad right now but should get better. I think McKinnon is the back to own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 22, 2016 I think both of these underperform. I had Asiata before and he was mediocre, would take a shot at McKinnon if I had to take one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking14 5 Posted September 22, 2016 I mentioned this on another thread. Viking offense will be expected to score 17-14 points a game. Asiata will play the majority of the time as passing(old West coast) will be how they move the ball and the RB will be held in to protect (probably plus an additional TE). Defense will have to keep the score down and maybe score themselves or set up some field goals with turnovers. The Vikes will be in the bottom 5-6 for scoring this year. We still want success, but for now defense will carry the team. 2014 Asiata I believe had 44 receptions, but probably for about 120 yards???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikes_Fan 8 Posted September 22, 2016 That's the consensus I'm hearing and it makes sense. Healthy Adrian Peterson couldn't run behind that line. So what happened to that O-line from last year when Peterson ran wild? Did they lose some lineman to free agency, retirement or injury? Well, AP is getting older... that's the one wild card here. He won the rushing title last year b/c he got force fed more carries than he should have. It is fair to wonder if a younger back might actually be able to do something he didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 22, 2016 Asiata was dropped last night for Drake. With news that AP had surgery and will be out a while I put in a claim dropping Moncrief (was lucky enough to get Dorsett in the 2nd waiver wave yesterday). It will most likely be a frustrating timeshare for most the season in Minnesota. Freaky raw athleticism vs. slow and steady behind a blah o-line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 29 Posted September 23, 2016 Need to add Ronnie Hillman or CJ Hamm into this discussion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking14 5 Posted September 23, 2016 Offense will be limited for the Vikes, and that is the way they plan it!!! They were built to win 20-14 and now 13-10. I have the TE and I will probably be dropping him. Their second offensive plan is to keep the QB health for 9 games - that will be tough to do!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,410 Posted September 25, 2016 Anyone rolling with McKinnon? I've got him on the bench for Tajae Sharpe in the flex at the moment. I feel like it is prudent to see how this offense, and the split with Asiata, play out. But I also feel like McKinnon is a physical freak and this may be his coming out party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinsrule05 30 Posted September 25, 2016 Anyone rolling with McKinnon? I've got him on the bench for Tajae Sharpe in the flex at the moment. I feel like it is prudent to see how this offense, and the split with Asiata, play out. But I also feel like McKinnon is a physical freak and this may be his coming out party. I am deciding between him and Crowell. I am leaning towards McKinnon since Crowell is the only option there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,007 Posted September 25, 2016 Not starting McKinnon since he's my RB6. I even had Christine Michael but cut him last week for Isaiah Crowell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted September 25, 2016 rolling with McKinnon over Jeremy hill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SigEp316 0 Posted September 25, 2016 I am deciding between him and Crowell. I am leaning towards McKinnon since Crowell is the only option there. I'm rolling him out this weekend. I think he's an every down back for most of the game. I'm hoping for 100 total yds and a TD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 25, 2016 They just announced Asiata is starting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillygrrl08 139 Posted September 25, 2016 Hillman is inactive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted September 25, 2016 just benched jerrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Byrdman5 104 Posted September 25, 2016 So much for McKinnon... Repeat of what they did a couple years ago. I really believed he would be the guy like they said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites