Sho Nuff 719 Posted August 13, 2018 Who do you think owns these corporations? Everyone with a 401K, everyone with a retirement, all of us that have invested in the market, hundreds of millions of Americans. Just because you arent part of it doesnt make it bad for America. Are you sure that is what you want to go with? What percentage of Americans do you think are in the market? Have 401ks? Vs who is affected by stagnant or dropping wages and inflation? Care to try again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted August 13, 2018 Are you sure that is what you want to go with? What percentage of Americans do you think are in the market? Have 401ks? Vs who is affected by stagnant or dropping wages and inflation? Care to try again? Just shut the eff up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 13, 2018 Are you sure that is what you want to go with? What percentage of Americans do you think are in the market? Have 401ks? Vs who is affected by stagnant or dropping wages and inflation? Care to try again? 54% of Americans are in the stock market, over 150 million people. They are the working Americans the people you claim are being hurt. These are the people that keep this country running. The ones that count! Everyone I know with a job is doing just fine, you seem to forget our taxes have been cut too. Maybe if you worked you would get it. Median base pay for workers in the United States climbed by 1.6% in June to $52,052, according to the latest edition of Glassdoor's Local Pay . https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/07/03/us-wage-growth-in-june-was-2018s-strongest-so-far.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted August 13, 2018 54% of Americans are in the stock market, over 150 million people. They are the working Americans the people you claim are being hurt. These are the people that keep this country running. The ones that count! Everyone I know with a job is doing just fine, you seem to forget our taxes have been cut too. Maybe if you worked you would get it. Median base pay for workers in the United States climbed by 1.6% in June to $52,052, according to the latest edition of Glassdoor's Local Pay . https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/07/03/us-wage-growth-in-june-was-2018s-strongest-so-far.aspx 54% are invested in some way...now take a guess at what percentage many are actually invested and you start to get an idea where I am going with this. BTW...that number is from 2017 (it may be a slight bit more with the gains over the last year)...but the volatility may be scaring people off of it. That included pensions, 401Ks...and so on. Now understand that corporate profits represented on the chart I showed...does not equal ownership by those in the market...especially when you then consider how many corporations did stock buy backs vs paying out bonuses. Do you know who that is good for? http://time.com/money/5267940/companies-spending-trump-tax-cuts-stock-buybacks/ https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/10/investing/stock-buybacks-record-tax-cuts/index.html https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621 The working Americans largely were not benefiting as you claim. Im saying these are the people who the right claims were being so helped...when it was clearly the upper echelon and corporations that were helped the most by those tax cuts. its ok to admit it...because anyone with a mind of their own can see it without having to regurgitate FoxNews Trump talking points. I know plenty with jobs who are doing ok...but given the booming economy should be doing better. People that were also doing just fine before Trump and little has changed. Even with where we are in recovery vs. 10 years ago. I don't forget taxes were cut...I don't forget the adding to the deficit to cut taxes that benefited mostly the rich and corporations. Thats the whole point dumbass. I do work...the tax cut was very minimal given rising costs elsewhere. Speaking of that.... Your little wage growth for June is nice and all...how about inflation? How about understanding how foolish it is to point out one month from one local pay report you found that made wages sound good right now? Or you could understand the discussion wasn't about one month and the one report you could find to try and dispute what I have stated or the chart I had already posted comparing wages to profits? So...try reading these (I laugh as I type this because I know you will completely ignore them...I can only lead you to the water...I can't force the intellectually lazy to actually educate themselves...so you will just stay willfully ignorant because that is what Trump wants you to do). https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/08/10/america-wage-growth-is-getting-wiped-out-entirely-by-inflation/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b436dfd52d0e https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/business/dealbook/inflation-wages.html http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wages-arent-growing-when-adjusted-for-inflation-new-data-finds-2018-07-17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 191 Posted August 13, 2018 Are you sure that is what you want to go with? What percentage of Americans do you think are in the market? Have 401ks? Vs who is affected by stagnant or dropping wages and inflation? Care to try again? maybe these dickheads would have a 401k or some $ in the market if they weren't busy blowing a grand on an iPhone and other stupid . Most of the people you are referring to are morons with no ability to manage $ including buying new cars and houses they really shouldn't be buying. Our combined incomes are over 100k and I drive a beater 2001 pickup truck I bought for 5k. That in itself conservatively puts me 20k ahead of the idiots buying the giant truck. That $ is making me more $. It's a simple concept most people are too dumb to comprehend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 191 Posted August 13, 2018 CNN with a huge nothingBurger with this Omorosa loser. They are trying to twist it as a lack of security because of the recording. Instead, they are throwing her under the bus. She's totally toxic now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 13, 2018 She's totally toxic now. Always has been. This is a woman that nobody really likes and would sell her mother for 5 minutes of pub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 13, 2018 I thought the left didn't pay protesters? https://orlando.craigslist.org/npo/d/fight-for-social-racial-and/6669731806.html (321) 800-2095 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 13, 2018 Omarosa cuts off 'Today' appearance, tells Savannah Guthrie to 'calm down' during bizarre interview http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/13/omarosa-cuts-off-today-appearance-tells-savannah-guthrie-to-calm-down-during-bizarre-interview.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,589 Posted August 13, 2018 I thought the left didn't pay protesters? https://orlando.craigslist.org/npo/d/fight-for-social-racial-and/6669731806.html (321) 800-2095 Organize Florida is an equal opportunity employer and encourages applications from people of color, LGBTQIA individuals, and women. except for straight white normal males Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted August 13, 2018 maybe these dickheads would have a 401k or some $ in the market if they weren't busy blowing a grand on an iPhone and other stupid ######. Most of the people you are referring to are ###### morons with no ability to manage $ including buying new cars and houses they really shouldn't be buying. Our combined incomes are over 100k and I drive a beater 2001 pickup truck I bought for 5k. That in itself conservatively puts me 20k ahead of the idiots buying the giant truck. That $ is making me more $. It's a simple concept most people are too dumb to comprehend.You wont get any argument from me that people willspend on stupid stuff. None of which is very relevant to the discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted August 13, 2018 Always has been. This is a woman that nobody really likes and would sell her mother for 5 minutes of pub. And Trump gave her a senior White House job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted August 13, 2018 And Trump gave her a senior White House job. Communication director for the White House office of public liason. Yeah, that's damn near a cabinet position. Any idea who has that key job now? I hope the nation doesn't suffer if noone has filled it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 191 Posted August 13, 2018 2 Trump speeches today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 191 Posted August 13, 2018 Maxine Waters. Low IQ individual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 28, 2018 US consumer confidence rises to 18-year high Americans' consumer confidence rose in August to the highest level in nearly 18 years as their assessment of current conditions improved further and their expectations about the future rebounded. The Conference Board reported Tuesday that its consumer confidence index rose to 133.4 in August, up from a reading 127.9 in July. It was the highest reading since confidence stood at 135.8 in October 2000. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/us-consumer-confidence-rises-18-year-high-57449706 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,521 Posted August 28, 2018 US consumer confidence rises to 18-year high Americans' consumer confidence rose in August to the highest level in nearly 18 years as their assessment of current conditions improved further and their expectations about the future rebounded. The Conference Board reported Tuesday that its consumer confidence index rose to 133.4 in August, up from a reading 127.9 in July. It was the highest reading since confidence stood at 135.8 in October 2000. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/us-consumer-confidence-rises-18-year-high-57449706 This is big news. It should have its own thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted August 29, 2018 Florida Governers race, Desantis, who was down by double didgits before Trump endorsed him, won by double didgits. MAGA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 29, 2018 Florida Governers race, Desantis, who was down by double didgits before Trump endorsed him, won by double didgits. MAGA.blue wave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,521 Posted August 29, 2018 Florida Governers race, Desantis, who was down by double didgits before Trump endorsed him, won by double didgits. MAGA. Link? Edit: nm. I had to do all the work myself. Thanks. So, the Trump backed candidate vs the Bernia backed candidate. This ought to be good. FYI: Next time a liberal tells you that their party isn't the Party of Socialism, tell them they're full of shiite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted August 29, 2018 blue waveYou realize it was a primary...right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted October 1, 2018 Beta Soy Boy Trudeau caves. New trade agreement with Canada. Call him a bufoon all you want, but Trump gets things done the previous presidents didn't even try. Or talk about, didn't want to upset their Wall Street pals. Yeah, you too Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,589 Posted October 1, 2018 link HT? wow I am shocked not surprised though that the ###### hat Trudeau would cave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 1, 2018 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-30/president-trump-s-nafta-deal-with-canada-is-said-to-be-imminent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 191 Posted October 1, 2018 They all cave to Trump. Trump works for the citizens of this country. He not an 'in it for my own glory' pile of like Hillary would have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,562 Posted October 1, 2018 Fiat Chrysler Is Moving a Plant From Mexico to Michigan Fiat Chrysler said it would create 2,500 jobs at a factory in Warren, Michigan, near Detroit and invest $1 billion in the facility. http://fortune.com/2018/01/12/fiat-chrysler-michigan-mexico-nafta/ Macomb County, where we went so big for Trump, we won him the state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted October 8, 2018 The unemployment rate fell two-tenths of a percentage point to 3.7 percent, the lowest level since December 1969 and one-tenth of a percentage point below expectations. August’s initial jobs count was revised up dramatically, from 201,000 to 270,000, while July’s numbers came up as well, from 147,000 to 165,000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,521 Posted October 8, 2018 The unemployment rate fell two-tenths of a percentage point to 3.7 percent, the lowest level since December 1969 and one-tenth of a percentage point below expectations. August’s initial jobs count was revised up dramatically, from 201,000 to 270,000, while July’s numbers came up as well, from 147,000 to 165,000. We were told to ignore everything positive about the economy because wages are allegedly 3 cents less than what they were previously. Allegedly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 8, 2018 We were told to ignore everything positive about the economy because wages are allegedly 3 cents less than what they were previously. Allegedly. MDC Economists want 98% unemployment, with the 2% earning $1 Million a day. That would be killing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,521 Posted October 8, 2018 MDC Economists want 98% unemployment, with the 2% earning $1 Million a day. That would be killing it. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE 3 CENTS!!!!!!!! * OMG! DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!! * allegedly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 8, 2018 BUT WHAT ABOUT THE 3 CENTS!!!!!!!! * OMG! DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!! * allegedly Nevermind that someone earned $0 last month and now they earn $14.98, that $14.98 ain't matching the $15.01 average from last month. ($0's not included in last month's average, of course) MDC economics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted October 8, 2018 Unemployment is the lowest in 50 years and people are talking about a blue wave? What am I missing besides feelings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,562 Posted October 8, 2018 Unemployment is the lowest in 50 years and people are talking about a blue wave? What am I missing besides feelings? Trump's approval rating is at 51%, the highest of his presidency. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_oct08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,562 Posted October 8, 2018 Unemployment is the lowest in 50 years and people are talking about a blue wave? What am I missing besides feelings? This too. The GOP is picking up momentum at the right time. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/democrats-lead-in-polls-may-not-lead-to-blue-wave.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 8, 2018 This too. The GOP is picking up momentum at the right time. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/democrats-lead-in-polls-may-not-lead-to-blue-wave.html Just based on the sheer number of seats the right has to protect, I think it's a toss up in the House, with maybe a lean to the left. However, if the right survives this House challenge, they have a huge advantage in the next 2 elections. And that is simply devastating to the left, and almost unheard of in today's politics. On the flip side, while the right should have no problem keeping the Senate in 2018, I see almost a 0% chance the Senate doesn't flip in 2020, and maybe even get worse for the right in 2022. The left could pick up 10-15 seats in those 2 which would give them a supermajority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 202 Posted October 10, 2018 Trump did some winning last week. I will give him that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 10, 2018 Trump did some winning last week. I will give him that. everyone wins when trump wins Except the losers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 10, 2018 Just based on the sheer number of seats the right has to protect, I think it's a toss up in the House, with maybe a lean to the left. However, if the right survives this House challenge, they have a huge advantage in the next 2 elections. And that is simply devastating to the left, and almost unheard of in today's politics. On the flip side, while the right should have no problem keeping the Senate in 2018, I see almost a 0% chance the Senate doesn't flip in 2020, and maybe even get worse for the right in 2022. The left could pick up 10-15 seats in those 2 which would give them a supermajority. I suspect they might pickup a seat in the Senate, are teetering on losing the House, and likely will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted October 10, 2018 Are you sure that is what you want to go with? What percentage of Americans do you think are in the market? Have 401ks? Vs who is affected by stagnant or dropping wages and inflation? Care to try again? I had a career I loved that was a very physical job that had few benefits, and I needed to change simply because of age and I went back to school at age 35. At that time I didn't have all of those things you mention but then I decided I wanted to have that. So now, I have a 401k with a 6% company match. I have stock options in my company with a 15% discount on the stock purchases I make. I get raises and bonuses yearly. I get quite a bit of paid time off each year. And I'm not bragging about that at all because these things hold different importance for everyone. It's just something that people should work for if that's what they want. Seriously, I didn't even go to a "top notch" expensive school. In fact, I work with a ton of people that went to Stanford and Vanderbilt and Yale etc... and make similar income as them. Not when I was initially hired mind you, but that didn't offend me in the least and over a few years I caught up. I didn't do anything special that the rest of American's can't do. I worked full time and paid my own way through college, and got a job and showed up for it every day. Now, I'm actually thinking about moving to some other work and willing to make less money to reduce some of the stress of my work life. It's not always how much you make, it's about how you treat the money you make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites