RLLD 4,230 Posted October 10, 2018 CNN Poll: Trump Approval Spikes After Kavanaugh CNN is working pretty hard for the Democrats right now, look forward to them spinning this, making it seem like a negative etc. They are hilarious. The truth is out there somewhere, might not become aware of it until a bit later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted October 10, 2018 CNN is working pretty hard for the Democrats right now, look forward to them spinning this, making it seem like a negative etc. They are hilarious. The truth is out there somewhere, might not become aware of it until a bit later. They'll probably spin this as "CNN poll proves that racism and misogyny is on the rise" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 10, 2018 Troll belief mode off, bot fact mode on. Proof enough for me. Case closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 10, 2018 I do not believe it is likely there are more females in medicine than in corporate tax. How many people work in your hospital? A couple of hundred? The more people you work with the more likely hood of coming across crazy. I was talking about as a percentage of workers, but you're right the more interactions with females, the more likelihood of a false allegation. But don't pretend some worker at a large tax firm interacts with a huge chunk of their fellow employees day-to-day. Most of you hang out at your desk and probably contact a handful. I work on ten floors and the ER, plus interact with our admin staff daily. So the relevant questions are: 1. How many distinct interactions with potential accusers? 2. Are different women in certain walks of life more/less likely to cry rape? 3. Are certain males more susceptible to being 'hits'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 10, 2018 I was talking about as a percentage of workers, but you're right the more interactions with females, the more likelihood of a false allegation. But don't pretend some worker at a large tax firm interacts with a huge chunk of their fellow employees day-to-day. Most of you hang out at your desk and probably contact a handful. I work on ten floors and the ER, plus interact with our admin staff daily. So the relevant questions are: 1. How many distinct interactions with potential accusers? 2. Are different women in certain walks of life more/less likely to cry rape? 3. Are certain males more susceptible to being 'hits'? PS,none of us knows the truth. But I would bet If your HR was able to reveal your workplace allegations of harassment you would be surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 10, 2018 I was talking about as a percentage of workers, but you're right the more interactions with females, the more likelihood of a false allegation. But don't pretend some worker at a large tax firm interacts with a huge chunk of their fellow employees day-to-day. Most of you hang out at your desk and probably contact a handful. I work on ten floors and the ER, plus interact with our admin staff daily. So the relevant questions are: 1. How many distinct interactions with potential accusers? 2. Are different women in certain walks of life more/less likely to cry rape? 3. Are certain males more susceptible to being 'hits'? Sometimes you simply cannot avoid these situations, but the goal is to minimize your exposure as much as possible. Where you are able to control the situation ensure you are in the lowest risk scenario possible. I have now stopped rising on an elevator where it would be just me and a female. I will get off of the elevator if I see this happening, and wait for the next one. You never know when or where that false accusation might arise, all you can do is try to avoid opening yourself up to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 10, 2018 Based on your persona here, I'm trying to envision you making an off-color statement to an admin, and I'm just not seeing it. But your anecdotal evidence is noted. I have no questions about them. I have a few questions for you though: let's say we have one ethnicity from a continent, let's call it Africa, which until the past 50-60 years was valued almost entirely on their physical prowess and not their intelligence. And we have another ethnicity from a different continent, let's call it Europe, which for centuries has increasingly valued intelligence. Might one have on average a higher IQ? Physical prowess? Let's say we have folks from another region, let's call it the Middle East, which to this day has warring tribes which value violence in the name of Allah. Might people from that region evolve to be more prone to violence? Just seeing where we draw the line here. TIA. Of course you can't imagine me saying anything off-color; I'm uptight, self-righteous and uber PC in your mind. You'd be shocked at the reality. To be accurate, I usually reserve racy comments for my coworkers and staff. I don't get along with admin...they'd surely find a reason to fire me if I wasn't damn good at my job. To answer your questions, centuries is not nearly long enough to selectively change polygenetic traits like strength and intelligence in large, genetically diverse populations. Ashkenazi's have an exaggerated genetic profile because an already small population was bottlenecked, creating a Founder effect when then limited survivors inbred. Tay-Sachs is a disease which is much more common in AJ as a result. The founder gene was thought to emerge in the 8th or 9th century. Bigger populations would need much longer. Especially when your starting ethnicities are far more genetically varied. And multiple genes for the characteristic in question are in play. And being "prone to violence" doesn't have a clear genetic basis, except maybe XYY males and a few other rare diseases of the amygdala. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 10, 2018 You know, it's one thing when Penn doubles down on stupid on an industry he doesn't know anything about. but it's damn near some kind of retarded super power when he does it about his own industry. Or should I say alleged industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/women-in-medicine-shout-metoo-about-sexual-harassment-at-work/2018/03/16/81673f82-0c37-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 10, 2018 And being "prone to violence" doesn't have a clear genetic basis, except maybe XYY males and a few other rare diseases of the amygdala. I have always believed that violence is more of an environmental thing, with a few outliers who are just focked up people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted October 10, 2018 Sometimes you simply cannot avoid these situations, but the goal is to minimize your exposure as much as possible. Where you are able to control the situation ensure you are in the lowest risk scenario possible. I have now stopped rising on an elevator where it would be just me and a female. I will get off of the elevator if I see this happening, and wait for the next one. You never know when or where that false accusation might arise, all you can do is try to avoid opening yourself up to it. This was probably over 10-15 years ago, way before the current #metoo frenzy, but when our kids were little I made sure it was always my wife and never me that picked up / dropped off the teenage female babysitter. Gotta be smart and just avoid it all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted October 10, 2018 You know, it's one thing when Penn doubles down on stupid on an industry he doesn't know anything about. but it's damn near some kind of retarded super power when he does it about his own industry. Or should I say alleged industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/women-in-medicine-shout-metoo-about-sexual-harassment-at-work/2018/03/16/81673f82-0c37-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,440 Posted October 10, 2018 You know, it's one thing when Penn doubles down on stupid on an industry he doesn't know anything about. but it's damn near some kind of retarded super power when he does it about his own industry. Or should I say alleged industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/women-in-medicine-shout-metoo-about-sexual-harassment-at-work/2018/03/16/81673f82-0c37-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html If Penn doesn't experience it then it's not real. Except racism everywhere. He can vouch for that even if he doesn't actually see it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted October 10, 2018 I was talking about as a percentage of workers, but you're right the more interactions with females, the more likelihood of a false allegation. But don't pretend some worker at a large tax firm interacts with a huge chunk of their fellow employees day-to-day. Most of you hang out at your desk and probably contact a handful. I work on ten floors and the ER, plus interact with our admin staff daily. So the relevant questions are: 1. How many distinct interactions with potential accusers? 2. Are different women in certain walks of life more/less likely to cry rape? 3. Are certain males more susceptible to being 'hits'? 10 whole stories? Jesus man Enron had 2 30 plus floor office buildings in the center of one of the biggest cities in the US. But sure that is equal to your tiny hospital in your tiny island town. And you are total wrong about hanging out at our desks all day. You are very ignorant about corporate America. You should educate yourself and stop making these incorrect assumptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 11, 2018 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roberts-refers-ethics-complaints-against-kavanaugh-to-federal-judges So the left had another ace up their sleeve. They'd filed ethics complaints against Kavanaugh several days before his rebuttal monologue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted October 11, 2018 BELIEVE ALL WOMEN! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6244083/High-school-clique-mean-girls-sued-targeting-boy-false-allegations-sexual-assault.html Or how about this one from OH: Student charged for allegedly making false anti-LGBT threats against herself Anna Ayers, who is a member of the OU student senate, was arrested Monday and charged by the Ohio University Police Department with three separate counts of “making false alarms.” It is alleged that Ayers falsely reported multiple threatening messages, including a “death threat,” which she claims was because of her being a member of the LGBTQ community. But an OU police department investigation revealed that Ayers’ claims were false. The probe further uncovered that Ayers had “placed the messages herself, prior to reporting them,” according to an OU police statement. “Making ‘false alarms’ is a first-degree misdemeanor that can carry a maximum penalty of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.” Another day, another fake hate claim by a mentally ill lefty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted October 11, 2018 Or how about this one from OH: Student charged for allegedly making false anti-LGBT threats against herself Another day, another fake hate claim by a mentally ill lefty. Inconceivable! I was told false claims never ever happen and that it's just crazy white dude paranoia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 11, 2018 Or how about this one from OH: Student charged for allegedly making false anti-LGBT threats against herself Another day, another fake hate claim by a mentally ill lefty. Needs more press Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,031 Posted October 11, 2018 My advice to young white males: Stay away from high school and college girls these days. Go straight to the 35+ year old women that don't show signs of hysteria. Winner winner chicken dinner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 11, 2018 My advice to young white males: Stay away from high school and college girls these days. Go straight to the 35+ year old women that don't show signs of hysteria. Winner winner chicken dinner. Women start to hear their biological clocks ticking at 30 or so. By 35 it's chiming like Big Ben. Young guys could land a still good looking professional woman making good cash and wind up in a Sho Nuff-type relationship pretty easily if they want that sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 11, 2018 Yep. Because CBF, Alyssa Milano, Ashley Judd, and the rest of them over 35 are clearly some of the most well-put-together people I've ever seen emotionally and mentally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 11, 2018 Yep. Because CBF, Alyssa Milano, Ashley Judd, and the rest of them over 35 are clearly some of the most well-put-together people I've ever seen emotionally and mentally. CBF hit the fugly wall if she wasn't already fugly to begin with. I don't trust any of the photos I've seen of her in her youth as they come from sources that are as credible as she is. Plus, she's learned a lesson. If she ever gets ahold of your DNA, you're at her mercy for rape charges for the rest of your life. Alyssa and Ashley look good on your arm and may be worth kicking the tires to see if the crazy goes away privately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,031 Posted October 11, 2018 Yep. Because CBF, Alyssa Milano, Ashley Judd, and the rest of them over 35 are clearly some of the most well-put-together people I've ever seen emotionally and mentally.I said the non-hysterical. There are many all over the place. Hell, even back when I was in my 20's I loved the 40 year old women. I was fortunate enough to have them love me back. ☺ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted October 11, 2018 Could you and I agree that its not about race, but about culture? No, although culture plays a role as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 Serious question for those that consider themselves left leaners here. Are you proud of your Democratic Party the past two plus years? Rigging primary/attempt to rig general election, colluding with Russians, attacking members of Congress (one nearly died), spying on U.S. citizens, attempting to ruin a man's life and threatening his family, wholesale mob rules mentality regarding all things Trump regardless of the topic, etc... Are you proud of that? Have you bothered to take an honest look at why you feel as you do or what you're being fed by the MSM? I'm not proud of any party. As a whole, both D's and R's act like petulant children. Much like the Geek Club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 Sometimes you simply cannot avoid these situations, but the goal is to minimize your exposure as much as possible. Where you are able to control the situation ensure you are in the lowest risk scenario possible. I have now stopped rising on an elevator where it would be just me and a female. I will get off of the elevator if I see this happening, and wait for the next one. You never know when or where that false accusation might arise, all you can do is try to avoid opening yourself up to it. Maybe that's why I've been safe. I haven't used the hospital elevator in years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 You know, it's one thing when Penn doubles down on stupid on an industry he doesn't know anything about. but it's damn near some kind of retarded super power when he does it about his own industry. Or should I say alleged industry. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/women-in-medicine-shout-metoo-about-sexual-harassment-at-work/2018/03/16/81673f82-0c37-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html Wiff, I never said it doesn't happen...I said false accusations aren't super common, especially relative to legit assault/rape/etc. Ill ask again, what do you think the false accusation:actual wrongdoing number is? I'll guess 1:100? From your link: Workers in the health care and social assistance field reported 4,738 cases of sexual harassment from 2005 through 2015, eclipsed only by fields such as hospitality and manufacturing, where men make up a greater proportion of the workforce, data gathered by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission shows. So ~470 cases a year for the entire field? And only a fraction of those are false. I should be up in arms and avoid all interaction with women over that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 10 whole stories? Jesus man Enron had 2 30 plus floor office buildings in the center of one of the biggest cities in the US. But sure that is equal to your tiny hospital in your tiny island town. And you are total wrong about hanging out at our desks all day. You are very ignorant about corporate America. You should educate yourself and stop making these incorrect assumptions. Educate me then. With how many females would you typically interact in a day? Not just pass in the hall or say hi, but exchange enough words or spend time to possibly be accused of improper behavior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 PS,none of us knows the truth. But I would bet If your HR was able to reveal your workplace allegations of harassment you would be surprised. Goodness gracious, you guys are missing my point. I'm sure there are allegations. I just don't believe the lion's share are trumped up, like a lot of you suggest. Certainly not enough to feel threatened by the potential for false allegation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,402 Posted October 11, 2018 Goodness gracious, you guys are missing my point. I'm sure there are allegations. I just don't believe the lion's share are trumped up, like a lot of you suggest. Certainly not enough to feel threatened by the potential for false allegation. You love to use tiny percentages to your favor. I’ll give you a chance to use a tiny percentage again. What percentage of law abiding citizens guns are used to commit crime? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 11, 2018 Maybe that's why I've been safe. I haven't used the hospital elevator in years I can do 4 or 5 floors, but those stairwells are never air conditioned and a guy like me sweating is not what you want in a conference room...so I need to be measured.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 11, 2018 Goodness gracious, you guys are missing my point. I'm sure there are allegations. I just don't believe the lion's share are trumped up, like a lot of you suggest. Certainly not enough to feel threatened by the potential for false allegation. A reasonable position. I would say I don't believe that people should be convicted, in court or out of it, based simply on an accusation and proof is still something I need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 You love to use tiny percentages to your favor. I’ll give you a chance to use a tiny percentage again. What percentage of law abiding citizens guns are used to commit crime? I'm interested in a lot more than just crime, so that small percentage isn't terribly relevant. I think you must consider overall harm versus benefit. While the likelihood of ever shooting it is small, a gun in the home is much more likely to result in harm than protection. I've posted the stats multiple times. If you want to consider females the firearms here, the absolute number of shots causing harm (false sex assault allegations) is far less than shooting the bad guys (legit sex assault, including rape). But there ain't a lot of shots, either good or bad. And the benefits of normal interactions with women are better than whatever other advantages you may derive from firearms. So I'll continue interacting with women without restriction, and advocating improved gun control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,402 Posted October 11, 2018 I'm interested in a lot more than just crime, so that small percentage isn't terribly relevant. I think you must consider overall harm versus benefit. While the likelihood of ever shooting it is small, a gun in the home is much more likely to result in harm than protection. I've posted the stats multiple times. If you want to consider females the firearms here, the absolute number of shots causing harm (false sex assault allegations) is far less than shooting the bad guys (legit sex assault, including rape). But there ain't a lot of shots, either good or bad. And the benefits of normal interactions with women are better than whatever other advantages you may derive from firearms. So I'll continue interacting with women without restriction, and advocating improved gun control. You do you Doc. Ill just keep posting your hypocrisy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 I can do 4 or 5 floors, but those stairwells are never air conditioned and a guy like me sweating is not what you want in a conference room...so I need to be measured.... It's a great way to get free exercise, but I'd have to slow down to a crawl if I ever had to wear a suit. A reasonable position. I would say I don't believe that people should be convicted, in court or out of it, based simply on an accusation and proof is still something I need. Agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 11, 2018 You do you Doc. Ill just keep posting your hypocrisy. Much better than actually posting germane arguments, or *shudder* relevant data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted October 11, 2018 Educate me then. With how many females would you typically interact in a day? Not just pass in the hall or say hi, but exchange enough words or spend time to possibly be accused of improper behavior. Dozens. 66 of our 97 member tax department are women. 12 of my 19 member staff are women. The percentages of women in Corporate Accounting, FP&A, Regulatory accounting, Public Affairs and Government Affairs are roughly the same percentage women to men. HR and AP are 90% women. Legal is about 50% and IT is mostly men. I almost forgot, my boss is a woman. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted October 11, 2018 Dozens. 66 of our 97 member tax department are women. 12 of my 19 member staff are women. The percentages of women in Corporate Accounting, FP&A, Regulatory accounting, Public Affairs and Government Affairs are roughly the same percentage women to men. HR and AP are 90% women. Legal is about 50% and IT is mostly men. I almost forgot, my boss is a woman. You are in a tough spot, tread carefully.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted October 11, 2018 You are in a tough spot, tread carefully.... Thanks. These percentages have been this way my entire career so I have learned how to cover myself. About 13 years ago I stopped going to work happy hours with women unless multiple women are present. Its just not worth the risk. It is hard to know how many of these claims are made because HR can not disclose any information, unless you or one of your direct reports is involved, because of these loons "rights". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 11, 2018 You only see extremists on the left advocating physical confrontation. When the Dems were in power, there weren't calls for people to physically harass officials in restaurants, etc. They're off their rockers. Two years ago they accused Trump of supporting all this and now, they're actually doing all the civil hostility things that they had pointed their fingers at Trump supporters of doing. At this point, they've even got their wise talking head elder statesmen (cough cough) like Hillary and Holder saying 'when they go low, we kick them." It's a total meltdown brought on by intense screaming, seething rage headaches, and constant losing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 11, 2018 Has creepy joe weighed in? https://streamable.com/45sj1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites