Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, MDC said: According to wiki they came here via tourist visa and became US citizens before the bombing. Maybe wikipedia contradicts itself in different places. Here's where I got it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlan_Tsarnaev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Dude stop saying that sh*t the Boston marathon bombing brothers were refugees, there likely were more. Yes, it’s infuriating when people around here lie about who is committing acts of terrorism in our country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,896 Posted August 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Maybe wikipedia contradicts itself in different places. Here's where I got it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlan_Tsarnaev Apparently his brother was a US citizen and he wasn’t: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_Tsarnaev Either way their parents came over on tourist visas and applied for political asylum years before the bombing. Ironically had they come here as refugees they’d probably have been vetted better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, MDC said: Their parents came here on tourist visas and later applied for political asylum. They were US citizens. So they breed them Good to know and more the reason to be careful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted August 4, 2019 ugh am I the only 1 here that doesn't believe these events are organic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 4, 2019 Surprised to see this thread still on page 1, with so many baseball games going on, the new Hobbs and Shaw movie being out this week, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,667 Posted August 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Surprised to see this thread still on page 1, with so many baseball games going on, the new Hobbs and Shaw movie being out this week, etc. You planning on doing something about these shootings or just whining? You could at least write a check to an anti gun violence group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You planning on doing something about these shootings or just whining? You could at least write a check to an anti gun violence group. Whining? I got no problems with the shootings. I mean sure, if you told me my family was going to die in a shooting if things don’t change, I’d be willing to consider giving up something to keep them alive. I bet you’d do the same to save your wife/kid/parent/etc. But I’ve done the math and the odds are against my family being killed. And I’m not too interested in giving up anything just to save the lives of strangers. So no, I’m not writing a check. Don’t be ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,648 Posted August 4, 2019 You can't rent a car until 25. Maybe up purchase age? No, it won't fix everyhing, but we have a hell of a lot of underage shooters. Honestly, if you can't rent a car, not exactly unreasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, wiffleball said: You can't rent a car until 25. Maybe up purchase age? No, it won't fix everyhing, but we have a hell of a lot of underage shooters. Honestly, if you can't rent a car, not exactly unreasonable. Ha. So I can fight in a war and kill the evil Muslims terrorists for my country, but I can’t hunt for hogs on my Uncle Red’s land? Hell nah. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted August 4, 2019 6 hours ago, MDC said: Thoughts and prayers. Sad human. 2 hours ago, MDC said: I was sure this would be the first Muslim refugee to commit a murder in the US. Again, a Muslim Somali refugee killed a woman in Minneapolis who had dual AUS/US citizenship. Talking point denied. In case you forgot You can play with words and move the goal posts every time I point this out, it does not hide the fact that you are a worthless troll. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,667 Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, cbfalcon said: Whining? I got no problems with the shootings. I mean sure, if you told me my family was going to die in a shooting if things don’t change, I’d be willing to consider giving up something to keep them alive. I bet you’d do the same to save your wife/kid/parent/etc. But I’ve done the math and the odds are against my family being killed. And I’m not too interested in giving up anything just to save the lives of strangers. So no, I’m not writing a check. Don’t be ridiculous. There you go. It's like when Obama said the chances of getting hit by lightening are better than getting killed by a terrorist. That was his anti-terror plan. Worked out great for almost everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,667 Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, cbfalcon said: Ha. So I can fight in a war and kill the evil Muslims terrorists for my country, but I can’t hunt for hogs on my Uncle Red’s land? Hell nah. Weak. The trolls around here really need to pick up their game. I don't like gun violence either. But a good start would be to lock up bad guys who use guns, put them in prison and keep them there. Liberals have a different plan. It's not working. Let's tackle the biggest cause of gun violence first then work our way down the list. I'm all for stricter gun laws that make sense. Raising the age is definetly something I'm behind. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,648 Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, cbfalcon said: Ha. So I can fight in a war and kill the evil Muslims terrorists for my country, but I can’t hunt for hogs on my Uncle Red’s land? Hell nah. Of course, whilst fighting them, GZi Joe can't drink, eat pork or buy prom at the PX - regardless of age. Meanwhile, you can still hunt it's guns purchased by dad, granddad, your uncle's, your mother, your mother's mother, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted August 4, 2019 Shooting in El Paso, 20 dead Hispanics. Shooting in Dayton, 10 dead blacks. This is a liberals wet dream. Now all they need is for one of these soy drinking Antifa nuts to go find a gay club to shoot up and they will hit the Lefty Hat Trick. Tomorrow will be like Oscar Sunday for the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdGang 312 Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Intense Observer said: Shooting in El Paso, 20 dead Hispanics. Shooting in Dayton, 10 dead blacks. This is a liberals wet dream. Now all they need is for one of these soy drinking Antifa nuts to go find a gay club to shoot up and they will hit the Lefty Hat Trick. Tomorrow will be like Oscar Sunday for the media. How do you know info on those dead was it provided? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 4, 2019 10 hours ago, wiffleball said: You can't rent a car until 25. Maybe up purchase age? No, it won't fix everyhing, but we have a hell of a lot of underage shooters. Honestly, if you can't rent a car, not exactly unreasonable. If you applied the same restrictions we have on cars to guns across the board it would help dramatically. Age limit. Testing and licensing. Registrations. Taxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,319 Posted August 4, 2019 14 hours ago, lod001 said: We are good for about a month now. Feel free to mingle in crowds. Guess not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,340 Posted August 4, 2019 I've only watched CNN and Fox on this but it seem so far that both networks refuse to name either of the shooters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 4, 2019 Well, i know what the far right will say. 300 people have been killed in chicago in 2019 and none of it gets reported nationally but the media goes nuts over the el paso shooting. the reason is if the chicago deaths got reported, people would point fingers at democrats running chicago. but this el paso shooting will get headlines because they can blame republicans and the NRA and trump. the charge is the media is playing politics with the news and it provides further evidence to not trust what the media tells you. the media and civic leaders will stand up and tell us the el paso shooting will NEVER be forgotten as if they are taking the high ground. but what they wont tell you is the 300 murders in chicago WILL be forgotten. its all about crafting the media narrative to protect democrats and make republicans feel guilty and you damn well know its true. trump cant call baltimore a rat infested, crime riddled disaster because we must look the other way at their 300 murders. their civic leaders will stand up and rebuke trump and call him a racist if he challenges them. but then those same people are tell republicans to feel guilty about el paso. just watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,483 Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: If you applied the same restrictions we have on cars to guns across the board it would help dramatically. Age limit. Testing and licensing. Registrations. Taxes. This. If I were going to shoot up a bunch of innocent people, I would make sure that I took my firearms testing classes and paid the extra taxes first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,319 Posted August 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, riversco said: Well, i know what the far right will say. 300 people have been killed in chicago in 2019 and none of it gets reported nationally but the media goes nuts over the el paso shooting. the reason is if the chicago deaths got reported, people would point fingers at democrats running chicago. but this el paso shooting will get headlines because they can blame republicans and the NRA and trump. the charge is the media is playing politics with the news and it provides further evidence to not trust what the media tells you. the media and civic leaders will stand up and tell us the el paso shooting will NEVER be forgotten as if they are taking the high ground. but what they wont tell you is the 300 murders in chicago WILL be forgotten. its all about crafting the media narrative to protect democrats and make republicans feel guilty and you damn well know its true. trump cant call baltimore a rat infested, crime riddled disaster because we must look the other way at their 300 murders. their civic leaders will stand up and rebuke trump and call him a racist if he challenges them. but then those same people are tell republicans to feel guilty about el paso. just watch. Reads like one of them manifestos 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,483 Posted August 4, 2019 Also, this is how happy these incidents make the left. They can barely contain themselves... https://files.catbox.moe/h68zuo.webm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Reads like one of them manifestos im just telling you, trust has collapsed. this is heading for war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 4, 2019 I wonder if the badges who arrested this loon will be allowed into a mcdonalds now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, riversco said: Well, i know what the far right will say. 300 people have been killed in chicago in 2019 and none of it gets reported nationally but the media goes nuts over the el paso shooting. the reason is if the chicago deaths got reported, people would point fingers at democrats running chicago. but this el paso shooting will get headlines because they can blame republicans and the NRA and trump. the charge is the media is playing politics with the news and it provides further evidence to not trust what the media tells you. the media and civic leaders will stand up and tell us the el paso shooting will NEVER be forgotten as if they are taking the high ground. but what they wont tell you is the 300 murders in chicago WILL be forgotten. its all about crafting the media narrative to protect democrats and make republicans feel guilty and you damn well know its true. trump cant call baltimore a rat infested, crime riddled disaster because we must look the other way at their 300 murders. their civic leaders will stand up and rebuke trump and call him a racist if he challenges them. but then those same people are tell republicans to feel guilty about el paso. just watch. Terrorist attacks on our country will always get more attention than individual murders. Always. Hell, I feel like we talked about 9/11 for weeks nonstop and people STILL bring it up all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Reads like one of them manifestos Riverfesto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Terrorist attacks on our country will always get more attention than individual murders. Always. Hell, I feel like we talked about 9/11 for weeks nonstop and people STILL bring it up all the time. The far right will say that is a big part of the problem, that the liberal media reclassifies urban gang violence as somehow being a "lesser murder" to justify radio silence on thousands being shot and killed every year across US cities. If the gang violence in urban cities was by republicans, or if republicans ran these cities, that classification would not exist and the media would always report it as huge news. report all the murders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,982 Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: If you applied the same restrictions we have on cars to guns across the board it would help dramatically. Age limit. Testing and licensing. Registrations. Taxes. One is a right specifically delineated in the constitution The other is not. You cannot compare the two. But I'm pretty sure we do all of the things you mentioned regarding guns anyways. A 10 year old can't walk in to a gun store and buy a gun, can they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: Guess not. Back to the drawing board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, riversco said: im just telling you, trust has collapsed. this is heading for war. I want to be on the side that requires filling out an application to have children. Murders are publically executed when proof of guilt is indisputable. All prisoners are subject to such horrific conditions, they would wish they were dear. Man, we could get things done. There would be no 'I'm offended'. The phrase would be outlawed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,385 Posted August 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, riversco said: I wonder if the badges who arrested this loon will be allowed into a mcdonalds now. No because the narrative is that they woulda killed this guy if he was black. Theyre no heroes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: If you applied the same restrictions we have on cars to guns across the board it would help dramatically. Age limit. Testing and licensing. Registrations. Taxes. Almost every mass shooter is nuts though. So none of that will help in the slightest. An honest attempt to stop mass murderers is to identify the crazy people early on before they hit 19-21 and kill a bunch of people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,385 Posted August 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, riversco said: I wonder if the badges who arrested this loon will be allowed into a mcdonalds now. No because the narrative is that they woulda killed this guy if he was black. Theyre no heroes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, riversco said: Almost every mass shooter is nuts though. So none of that will help in the slightest. An honest attempt to stop mass murderers is to identify the crazy people early on before they hit 19-21 and kill a bunch of people. winner. However, they all are nuts because if you are a mass shooter, you are in fact nuts. But that doesn't excuse your spot on death row. It all goes back to people who are unqualified to pump out losers yet are allowed to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted August 4, 2019 Thoughts and prayers. That's all that's needed! God bless the USA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,667 Posted August 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, crackattack said: Thoughts and prayers. That's all that's needed! God bless the USA! The trolls are so unoriginal these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The trolls are so unoriginal these days. Freedom isn't free. I'm just passing along thoughts and prayers. I'm hoping America stays strong. Why do you hate religion and America? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,896 Posted August 4, 2019 God bless the people of El Paso Texas. God bless the people of Dayton, Ohio. Thanks Don. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, MDC said: God bless the people of El Paso Texas. God bless the people of Dayton, Ohio. Thanks Don. You are one messed up dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites