RLLD 4,256 Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: This President is being investigated for impeachment. Please tell me the Dems haven't pinned their hopes to a phone call. THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Are you slow or something? The part they quoted from the document itself says it isn’t a transcript You may need reading lessons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 13 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Are you slow or something? The part they quoted from the document itself says it isn’t a transcript People who were actually listening to the call say the memorandum is accurate and numerous people have stated there was no conditions placed on it. Also, the chick that initially claimed it was Trump that brought up Burisma ammended her testimony days later (after damage done) to reflect it was Leshanko who brought up Burisma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 19, 2019 Look, we should all be able to agree on some simple, but key, points... 1) Trump is something of a "drunk uncle" in many ways and says things that inflame the weak-minded. 2) Trump is doing things that are helping people, lots of them, traditionally disenfranchised people in particular. 3) Trump is improving the overall economy, and our global economic standing.....WITHOUT TROOPS..... 4) The Democrats hate him, passionately 5) The Democrats are being taken over by their extreme members 6) The Democrats are recklessly swinging at him now, closed-eye haymakers just hoping to land anything to take down this guy 7) NONE of the traditional political tactics work against him 8 They are likely going to lose the house as a result of all this, he will likely win the presidency, the Senate will remain republican, perhaps they even gain a seat 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: People who were actually listening to the call say the memorandum is accurate and numerous people have stated there was no conditions placed on it. Also, the chick that initially claimed it was Trump that brought up Burisma ammended her testimony days later (after damage done) to reflect it was Leshanko who brought up Burisma. Well that’s not accurate, there’s been testimony that the summary is missing stuff. Maybe that comes back around, maybe it doesn’t. We’ll have to see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 19, 2019 So in fact Vindman was just asked about it. Great timing He and Williams both said that Zelensky mentioned Burisma on the phone call but that this was omitted from the transcript. Vindman tried to have it added in for accuracy but it was not put in. The significance seeming to be that Zelensky was prepped to discuss Burisma and the Trump Administration tried to obscure that fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 19, 2019 Yawn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Well that’s not accurate, there’s been testimony that the summary is missing stuff. Maybe that comes back around, maybe it doesn’t. We’ll have to see. https://www.independentsentinel.com/house-witness-says-nothing-illegal-transcript-was-accurate-taylor-was-wrong/ Morrison's testimony states your wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://www.independentsentinel.com/house-witness-says-nothing-illegal-transcript-was-accurate-taylor-was-wrong/ Morrison's testimony states your wrong. Well Vindman and Williams just testified differently under oath. Whether this matters remains to be seen. It looks like it could be significant when coupled with other evidence such as Giuliani / Sondland arm twisting of Ukraine before the call, but we’ll find out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 19, 2019 Turns out Trump was holding out aid for other countries with stipulations. The Horror! I wonder if he wanted Lebanon to investigate Biden too. It goes from absurd to ridiculous every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 19, 2019 Sondland testifies tomorrow. Will certainly be interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Sondland testifies tomorrow. Will certainly be interesting Hopefully, because nothing has been up to this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Sondland testifies tomorrow. Will certainly be interesting Sondland is the smoking gun, if there is one. Very smart cat, he has been one step ahead of everyone else in this drama and has stayed clear of the fray. I promise you that the left will declare "bombshells", but there will be none. Ask yourself this, what would truly be the "impeachment statement"? Not sure there is one. Sondland would have to confirm that Zelensky offered to investigate only because he thought the payment was in jeopardy. Zelensky's actual words are all that matter. As we know, no investigation occurred and the payment was made. Zelensky is not testifying, so Sondland's feet really cannot be held to the fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,607 Posted November 19, 2019 Wow, BREAKING NEWS!!!! Quote Goldman: Col. Vindman, you testified that the president, President Trump’s request for a favor from President Zelensky would be considered as a demand to President Zelensky. After his call, did you ever hear from any Ukrainians, either in the United States or Ukraine about any pressure that they felt to do these investigations that President Trump demanded? Vindman: Not that I can recall. They got him now!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 19, 2019 Bombshell! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Strike said: Wow, BREAKING NEWS!!!! They got him now!!!! So the right hasn't been able to disprove it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Turns out Trump was holding out aid for other countries with stipulations. The Horror! I wonder if he wanted Lebanon to investigate Biden too. It goes from absurd to ridiculous every day. We will need transcripts of all those calls just like we got from obama when he refused military aid and sent blankets at their most dire time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Turns out Trump was holding out aid for other countries with stipulations. The Horror! I wonder if he wanted Lebanon to investigate Biden too. It goes from absurd to ridiculous every day. Which ones? For how long, I mean that is interesting.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: Well Vindman and Williams just testified differently under oath. Whether this matters remains to be seen. It looks like it could be significant when coupled with other evidence such as Giuliani / Sondland arm twisting of Ukraine before the call, but we’ll find out Vindman's credibility is long gone man. As is Williams when she lied saying Trump raised Burisma in that call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: Which ones? For how long, I mean that is interesting.... David Hale, an under secretary at State testified to it earlier this month in the secret inquisition Scheff held. It's on Breitbart, of course. MSM isn't going to report that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: The significance seeming to be that Zelensky was prepped to discuss Burisma and the Trump Administration tried to obscure that fact. Is that the new pivot? Morrison testified Vindman's edits were included. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 19, 2019 Honest question: when there is testimony from different "witnesses" that appears to contradict each other, does that invalidate both testimonies or only the one that doesn't tell the desired story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 If Schiff and Vindman don't know who the whistleblower is, then how is Vindman naming who he spoke with in the Intel Comm revealing the whistleblower? Focking clown show 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: So in fact Vindman was just asked about it. Great timing He and Williams both said that Zelensky mentioned Burisma on the phone call but that this was omitted from the transcript. Vindman tried to have it added in for accuracy but it was not put in. The significance seeming to be that Zelensky was prepped to discuss Burisma and the Trump Administration tried to obscure that fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 Seems pretty important to establish whether Vindman was a source for the whistleblower, especially since Dems are holding Vindman out as independent corroboration of the whistleblower. This is circular reporting. Reminiscent of the Steele dossier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: If Schiff and Vindman don't know who the whistleblower is, then how is Vindman naming who he spoke with in the Intel Comm revealing the whistleblower? Focking clown show Everyone should refuse to answer questions because they might out the whistleblower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 19, 2019 Rudy Guilliani was digging around Ukraine March 2019 and prior. Biden announced he was running April 2019. Resolve that Trump was after opposition candidate. Oh and Yovanovitch was fired April 24th, 2019. Joe Biden announced his candidacy April 25th. Once his protector in Ukraine was removed, shift to Plan B. There are no coincidences. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Filthy Fernadez said: That is an odd exchange. Schiff and Lt.Co.Vindman both say they have no idea who the whistleblower is......so how in the world would them answering questions reveal the whistleblower? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 19, 2019 I have to question the caliber of officer this Vindman cat might be, he strikes me as the kind who might face an "accident" in a combat zone.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: That is an odd exchange. Schiff and Lt.Co.Vindman both say they have not idea who the whistleblower is......so how in the world would them answering questions reveal the whistleblower? Perhaps because there is no whistleblower and it's a convenient way to pretend there is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I have to question the caliber of officer this Vindman cat might be, he strikes me as the kind who might face an "accident" in a combat zone.... He looks like that guy that kidnapped the girl in Wisconsin after killing her parents. Can't be trusted when you look like that. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS782US782&sxsrf=ACYBGNTqtFn0PPtIW8tpx86ZN0jTYZuD0w%3A1574185823968&ei=XyvUXfTZOua3ggfP4q_wDQ&q=jake+peterson+&oq=jake+peterson+&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.3382.9211..10020...3.0..0.117.1630.11j6......0....1..gws-wiz.......35i39j0i67j0i131j0i131i273j0i273j0i10j0i22i30j0i22i10i30.YiGtl6Vs2bI&ved=0ahUKEwi0heSW6_blAhXmm-AKHU_xC94Q4dUDCAs&uact=5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 19, 2019 Don't these people ever feel stupid at what they are going through day in and day out? How could they possibly justify taking a salary for playing these kindergarten type games like red light/ green light and mother may I and whatever they call this crap? It's amazing how weak and lost these turds are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,607 Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: I have to question the caliber of officer this Vindman cat might be, he strikes me as the kind who might face an "accident" in a combat zone.... Rumor has it he changed his name from "Doug Niedermeyer". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Strike said: Rumor has it he changed his name from "Doug Niedermeyer". Is that a Twisted Sister pin on your uniform!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,142 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, drobeski said: This vindman faggut is a real peice of schit. Treason, hang him. You are an embarrassment 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Don't these people ever feel stupid at what they are going through day in and day out? How could they possibly justify taking a salary for playing these kindergarten type games like red light/ green light and mother may I and whatever they call this crap? It's amazing how weak and lost these turds are. At least they're getting paid. The libtards around here get nothing for acting the fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 19, 2019 It's interesting seeing reactions from people on both sides. They both think it's going their way and they are just killing it. Neither can understand how the other side thinks they are winning too. It's fascinating. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's interesting seeing reactions from people on both sides. They both think it's going their way and they are just killing it. Neither can understand how the other side thinks they are winning too. It's fascinating. Well it's fairly obvious who is winning. It's the side that doesn't change what's being investigated/ charged mid-stream. "Quid pro Quo" "Bribery" "Witness Intimidation" . You don't switch things around when you're winning a case. Ask Worms. Wait, don't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,405 Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well it's fairly obvious who is winning. It's the side that doesn't change what's being investigated/ charged mid-stream. "Quid pro Quo" "Bribery" "Witness Intimidation" . You don't switch things around when you're winning a case. Ask Worms. Wait, don't. I don't doubt that you 100% believe that. What's amazing is that Dems feel just as confident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, Herbivore said: You are an embarrassment I'll take that as a compliment, considering you most likely support this clown show and the treasonous hacks performing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites