DonS 3,292 Posted November 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Member of Congress states publically (it was suspected) that Schiff's staff met before the whistleblower even filed their complaint. What part of NY does Stefanik represent? (yes I'm too lazy to Google) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Member of Congress states publically (it was suspected) that Schiff's staff met before the whistleblower even filed their complaint. Another question: who is the Fox News lady? She looks like a dirty eastern European wh0re. NTTAWWT. (the word wh0re is censored now???) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 25, 2019 Stefanik represents the Wood District. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,936 Posted November 25, 2019 Looking into corruption isn't digging up dirt. Why can't the useful idiots figure that out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,256 Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Looking into corruption isn't digging up dirt. Why can't the useful idiots figure that out. These people are politicians, they are viewing this through the prism of their own perspective. people like a schiff , nadler, and pelosi I all live is a world of corruption. they assume trump is doing the same and a simple poke into him will reveal the stuff they know happens with any politician....but trump is not really a politician at all They continue to do things from the perspective of a politician and it always fails, they don’t learn well instead of going after him using the notions of how THEY are corrupt, they need to use a different tact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,301 Posted November 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Looking into corruption isn't digging up dirt. Why can't the useful idiots figure that out. Quote The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible. Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me. You were saying about useful idiots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: You were saying about useful idiots? But are you really useful? The Dems might say yeah but at the Geek Bored......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,601 Posted November 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: You were saying about useful idiots? I'd say Trump has been an EXTREMELY USEFUL idiot: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trumps-conservative-picks-will-impact-courts-for-decades Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: You were saying about useful idiots? You're kiddin right? There was a book written over a year ago about the corrupt Bidens. Plenty of evidence. So that can't be looked into? Why? Why are you taking the side of the ones that are so obviously corrupt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted November 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You're kiddin right? There was a book written over a year ago about the corrupt Bidens. Plenty of evidence. So that can't be looked into? Why? Why are you taking the side of the ones that are so obviously corrupt? Because he wants Trump gone by any means necessary. By hook or by crook, the Orange Man must be defeated. Honcho needs his side to be in power so that illegals can steal or resources, white men can be downtrodden, and the economy raped for "the good of the planet". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Because he wants Trump gone by any means necessary. By hook or by crook, the Orange Man must be defeated. Honcho needs his side to be in power so that illegals can steal or resources, white men can be downtrodden, and the economy raped for "the good of the planet". Sick, sick people. Christ almighty, how hard can it be to get a few mid-western states to flip back and beat him? We're talking about 100,000 votes. They have the money, media and Hollywood. How many Trump voters have died and been replaced by college kids who graduated after four years of leftist programming? They have to flood us with unskilled and uneducated migrants from shitholes too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,936 Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: You were saying about useful idiots? Yes you. Thanks for proving my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sick, sick people. Christ almighty, how hard can it be to get a few mid-western states to flip back and beat him? We're talking about 100,000 votes. They have the money, media and Hollywood. How many Trump voters have died and been replaced by college kids who graduated after four years of leftist programming? They have to flood us with unskilled and uneducated migrants from shitholes too? Do conservatives call college "leftist programming" because they experienced it or because that's the cool terminology to use? I don't recall being all that influenced politically while at college. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Do conservatives call college "leftist programming" because they experienced it or because that's the cool terminology to use? I don't recall being all that influenced politically while at college. You're right. Your experience speaks for everyone. Typical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You're right. Your experience speaks for everyone. Typical. I hear conservatives blame the education system for liberalism all the time but haven't really heard much evidence to support it. I asked a simple question as to why so many believe this is so true. I know there are going to be some schools that are very liberal but I see the whole system being labeled this often. You're response was to be expected. Typical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Do conservatives call college "leftist programming" because they experienced it or because that's the cool terminology to use? I don't recall being all that influenced politically while at college. Good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, TimmySmith said: Good one. So... another non response. Good talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: So... another non response. Good talk. Meh, not so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: You were saying about useful idiots? https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/world/europe/corruption-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html Article in liberal rag New York Times dated December 8th, 2015 WASHINGTON — When Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. traveled to Kiev , Ukraine, on Sunday for a series of meetings with the country’s leaders, one of the issues on his agenda was to encourage a more aggressive fight against Ukraine’s rampant corruption and stronger efforts to rein in the power of its oligarchs. But the credibility of the vice president’s anticorruption message may have been undermined by the association of his son, Hunter Biden, with one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, Burisma Holdings, and with its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, who was Ukraine’s ecology minister under former President Viktor F. Yanukovych before he was forced into exile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I hear conservatives blame the education system for liberalism all the time but haven't really heard much evidence to support it. I asked a simple question as to why so many believe this is so true. I know there are going to be some schools that are very liberal but I see the whole system being labeled this often. You're response was to be expected. Typical. Maybe open your eyes and ears. And your experience from 20-30 years ago is irrelevant today. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/world/europe/corruption-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html Article in liberal rag New York Times dated December 8th, 2015 WASHINGTON — When Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. traveled to Kiev , Ukraine, on Sunday for a series of meetings with the country’s leaders, one of the issues on his agenda was to encourage a more aggressive fight against Ukraine’s rampant corruption and stronger efforts to rein in the power of its oligarchs. But the credibility of the vice president’s anticorruption message may have been undermined by the association of his son, Hunter Biden, with one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, Burisma Holdings, and with its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, who was Ukraine’s ecology minister under former President Viktor F. Yanukovych before he was forced into exile. That was before the peasants revolted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,511 Posted November 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Do conservatives call college "leftist programming" because they experienced it or because that's the cool terminology to use? I don't recall being all that influenced politically while at college. Me neither. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Maybe open your eyes and ears. And your experience from 20-30 years ago is irrelevant today. HTH. I finished college in 2005. I still haven't gotten much info to back up all these opinions. I know what your opinions are already, I'm curious as to why? Is it from experience or is it just because you hear it said on something like Fox News? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I finished college in 2005. I still haven't gotten much info to back up all these opinions. I know what your opinions are already, I'm curious as to why? Is it from experience or is it just because you hear it said on something like Fox News? Let me give you an example: Do you think the climate in colleges was the same in 1968 as it was in 1953? Think anything changed? I'll hang up and listen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I know what your opinions are already, I'm curious as to why? Is it from experience or is it just because you hear it said on something like Fox News? Whereas one could encapsulate your views by watching The View. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I finished college in 2005. I still haven't gotten much info to back up all these opinions. I know what your opinions are already, I'm curious as to why? Is it from experience or is it just because you hear it said on something like Fox News? I worked at a prominent liberal college for two years. I saw it with my own two eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I worked at a prominent liberal college for two years. I saw it with my own two eyes. All right then. At least you gave a legitimate answer this time instead of all snark shiit you guys respond with all the time. Do you think the majority of colleges are similar to the college you worked at? Is that pretty representative of the entire education system? I ask these questions because I see it mentioned a lot by conservatives. I see people who have been out of school for 50 years using these same talking points but I have no idea how they came up with their opinion other than it's what they hear on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said: Whereas one could encapsulate your views by watching The View. You're so witty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: All right then. At least you gave a legitimate answer this time instead of all snark shiit you guys respond with all the time. Do you think the majority of colleges are similar to the college you worked at? Is that pretty representative of the entire education system? I ask these questions because I see it mentioned a lot by conservatives. I see people who have been out of school for 50 years using these same talking points but I have no idea how they came up with their opinion other than it's what they hear on TV. Sometimes the TV tells the truth. Riots at Berkeley was one instance amongst many. And the colleges that produce the leaders that call the shots are all liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sometimes the TV tells the truth. Riots at Berkeley was one instance amongst many. And the colleges that produce the leaders that call the shots are all liberal. I don't disagree with that. There are going to be specific examples of colleges. Does that represent the entire education systems like some suggest though? I have found that the majority of teachers I know lean left. It seems to be a pretty common trait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't disagree with that. There are going to be specific examples of colleges. Does that represent the entire education systems like some suggest though? I have found that the majority of teachers I know lean left. It seems to be a pretty common trait. At the college I worked at the head of the conservative "group " had to be given a room near faculty that wasn't near the student population. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted November 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said: JFC......................got pop a xanax or 12 and go lie down for the next month. This. Worms has past Slo Nutt for most gullible hack to ever disgrace the bored. Don't concede it's even true. That's part of the problem with the Old Conservatives. You concede their points as if anything reported is actually true. We're in uncharted territory with the lies they're willing to tell now. GIVE THEM NOTHING. I think RLLD is willing to consider that it’s true since it came from a Giuliani guy (not Democrats) and Nunes won’t even say it didn’t happen. Also RLLD probably realizes that if you say it isn’t true and then later it’s proven to be true, you’re in a bit of a tight spot because you can’t argue that it was totally appropriate. You know, like you and the republicans are now doing with the Ukraine quid pro quo. Either it happened and it was fine or it didn’t happen—you kind of have to choose. That’s the problem with the New Alt-Right Conservatives, you think you can just ignore facts and logic when inconvenient to your nutty narratives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,942 Posted November 25, 2019 My son is home from college for Thanksgiving break. At lunch today, he told me he has joined his school's Conservative club. He makes me so proud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,558 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said: My son is home from college for Thanksgiving break. At lunch today, he told me he has joined his school's Conservative club. He makes me so proud. Congratulations. You have a lot to be thankful for. That's good parenting right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said: My son is home from college for Thanksgiving break. At lunch today, he told me he has joined his school's Conservative club. He makes me so proud. Where is he going to school? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: My son is home from college for Thanksgiving break. At lunch today, he told me he has joined his school's Conservative club. He makes me so proud. So... not liberal brainwashing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: So... not liberal brainwashing? I'm only guessing, but maybe the pride is coming from his kid not caving in to liberal brainwashing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,404 Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, Utilit99 said: I'm only guessing, but maybe the pride is that his kid didn't cave in to liberal brainwashing. Maybe. Could also be that there isn’t brainwashing going on and his son is just joining something he believes in on his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Maybe. Could also be that there isn’t brainwashing going on and his son is just joining something he believes in on his own. If you want to make a point that a parent should never be proud of their kids, then ok. You can pursue that. But did he bring up liberal brainwashing or did you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites