TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Then why every week players and staff are testing positive? Every single week. If we are heading into an uptick in cases, and that’s the reason for the lockdowns, why are different groups being treated differently? Based on the below, there were 52 players/staff out of 7,856 that tested positive this week. That's a 0.7% positivity rate, which is much lower than the rest of the country. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/17/nfls-top-doctor-says-increase-in-positive-tests-reflects-situation-around-the-country/ And when they do test positive they sit out. Like I said, if bars could test everyone that was going to come in so those that test positive don't come in, I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem being able to stay open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They get tested every week though. They are not playing while infected which is why they get tested so often. It’s how they’re able to have a season. You certainly put much faith in a test that has proven to give false information in as many as 50% of cases, and given to those who exhibit no symptoms which the CDC has previously said may not even register on the a test. Dog and Pony show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, TimmySmith said: You certainly put much faith in a test that has proven to give false information in as many as 50% of cases, and given to those who exhibit no symptoms which the CDC has previously said may not even register on the a test. Dog and Pony show. And he's gladly on the leash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted November 18, 2020 The nfl has had almost zero sick players. Lots of positives that ended up phony. Almost zero actually sick, like cough cough I feel like crap, sick. Cam, not sick, never had it. Can’t even name a sick player. Raquel armstead from preseason, that’s about it. Every story that comes out about a guy added to the covid list is because he came in possible contact with someone who maybe possibly had a cousins sisters brothers former roommate who may have dreamed about having it. They are never actually sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, tanatastic said: The nfl has had almost zero sick players. Lots of positives that ended up phony. Almost zero actually sick, like cough cough I feel like crap, sick. Cam, not sick, never had it. Can’t even name a sick player. Raquel armstead from preseason, that’s about it. Every story that comes out about a guy added to the covid list is because he came in possible contact with someone who maybe possibly had a cousins sisters brothers former roommate who may have dreamed about having it. They are never actually sick. Neither are the rest of us. Why do we have to be locked down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,846 Posted November 18, 2020 I actually know someone who died of Covid now. Well, I don’t really know him, but he was a prominent dance instructor in our area, and my daughters used to compete against his teams. He was pretty young, I’d guess mid 40s. Also quite obese, so he probably had some underlying conditions. Also also black, if that actually matters. I’ve also wondered about the following: Since I no longer breathe through my nose, and I basically wear a filter on the hole in my neck, can I get Covid? A speech pathologist at Mayo yesterday said she doesn’t know any laryngectomees who have gotten it. Obviously that is anecdotal, and I’m not going to go licking faces in a bar (any more than I already do), but it would be nice if it is indeed virtually impossible for me to get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, tanatastic said: The nfl has had almost zero sick players. Lots of positives that ended up phony. Almost zero actually sick, like cough cough I feel like crap, sick. Cam, not sick, never had it. Can’t even name a sick player. Raquel armstead from preseason, that’s about it. Every story that comes out about a guy added to the covid list is because he came in possible contact with someone who maybe possibly had a cousins sisters brothers former roommate who may have dreamed about having it. They are never actually sick. Some Titans players actually got sick: https://wpln.org/post/titans-coach-says-players-have-flu-like-symptoms-from-covid-but-recovering/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted November 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I actually know someone who died of Covid now. Well, I don’t really know him, but he was a prominent dance instructor in our area, and my daughters used to compete against his teams. He was pretty young, I’d guess mid 40s. Also quite obese, so he probably had some underlying conditions. Also also black, if that actually matters. I’ve also wondered about the following: Since I no longer breathe through my nose, and I basically wear a filter on the hole in my neck, can I get Covid? A speech pathologist at Mayo yesterday said she doesn’t know any laryngectomees who have gotten it. Obviously that is anecdotal, and I’m not going to go licking faces in a bar (any more than I already do), but it would be nice if it is indeed virtually impossible for me to get it. They were saying you can get it through your eyeballs but even if not, of course there are still ways airborne virus particles can invade your body through your soft bits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2020 Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, who is 87 years old, tweeted Tuesday that he tested positive for Covid-19 on Tuesday. "I'm feeling good + will keep up on my work for the ppl of Iowa from home." 87 and feels good. Go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: No one will care. He's a lib. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Of course the cover story is it was a birthday dinner. Bullshit. It was a celebration of the OMB’s defeat. They were probably figuring out how they can cash in and who gets what spot. Lots of movement in a new administration. Plus he has to appoint someone to the sluts senate spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted November 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: You certainly put much faith in a test that has proven to give false information in as many as 50% of cases, and given to those who exhibit no symptoms which the CDC has previously said may not even register on the a test. Dog and Pony show. What exactly are you trying to get at with these stupid posts? Are you and HT trying to play devil's advocate or are you both that obtuse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: What exactly are you trying to get at with these stupid posts? Are you and HT trying to play devil's advocate or are you both that obtuse? The point is I don’t like being treated like a second class citizen. Do you? Seems like you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,498 Posted November 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Of course the cover story is it was a birthday dinner. Bullshit. It was a celebration of the OMB’s defeat. They were probably figuring out how they can cash in and who gets what spot. Lots of movement in a new administration. Plus he has to appoint someone to the sluts senate spot. Is his "partner" wearing a focking bathrobe? Jeesus. Focking hate that guy...he will run for Pres in 2024. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The point is I don’t like being treated like a second class citizen. Do you? Seems like you do. I'm not a moron who thinks I'm being treated as such. I use common sense. Get a focking grip man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm not a moron who thinks I'm being treated as such. I use common sense. Get a focking grip man. Oh. So politicians who invoke restrictions and lockdowns but don’t adhere to them, how exactly does that make you feel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh. So politicians who invoke restrictions and lockdowns but don’t adhere to them, how exactly does that make you feel? I get bothered when I see the hypocrisy of it but I understand why certain restrictions and lockdowns are put in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: No one will care. He's a lib. Not only did pelosi shrug it off when she got caught, but she put the person out of business on purpose out of spite. Libs supported her all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I get bothered when I see the hypocrisy of it but I understand why certain restrictions and lockdowns are put in place. And when being bothered by the hypocrisy gets you lockdown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, FlyinHeadlock said: And when being bothered by the hypocrisy gets you lockdown? Gets me lockdown? What? Look, the amount of people testing positive is getting ridiculous right now. Something needs to change to slow it back down some. The general public can't be trusted to help so there needs to be some kind of leadership taken. I do not want a full shutdown but I am not against certain measures being taken to avoid that. It's not hard to wear a mask around others. It's not hard to avoid large gatherings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Gets me lockdown? What? Look, the amount of people testing positive is getting ridiculous right now. Something needs to change to slow it back down some. The general public can't be trusted to help so there needs to be some kind of leadership taken. I do not want a full shutdown but I am not against certain measures being taken to avoid that. It's not hard to wear a mask around others. It's not hard to avoid large gatherings. Lockdowns do more harm and kill more people. Depression, suicide, domestic abuse, financial harm, financial ruin, crime, murder, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, political violence, riots. It's destroying lives. Maybe it should be a choice like most things in life. Nobody is hurting you. Lock yourself in your house and don't look outside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Lockdowns do more harm and kill more people. Depression, suicide, domestic abuse, financial harm, financial ruin, crime, murder, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, political violence, riots. It's destroying lives. Maybe it should be a choice like most things in life. Nobody is hurting you. Lock yourself in your house and don't look outside. You realize you were replying to a post saying he doesn’t want a lockdown, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted November 18, 2020 42 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm not a moron who thinks I'm being treated as such. I use common sense. Get a focking grip man. Common sense is something Iowa fans lack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You realize you were replying to a post saying he doesn’t want a lockdown, right? Didn't. Sounded like it was ok...meh. My thing is if you want to go for it just like anything else in life, just like all these gov officials. Screw that, if they can do whatever they want then so can I. Should be lawsuits against these azzholes. Breaking their own laws left and right and getting off with sorry. Total bs. Same with sports. They can play a effin game outside but I can't. What makes them so special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Didn't. Sounded like it was ok...meh. My thing is if you want to go for it just like anything else in life, just like all these gov officials. Screw that, if they can do whatever they want then so can I. Should be lawsuits against these azzholes. Breaking their own laws left and right and getting off with sorry. Total bs. Same with sports. They can play a effin game outside but I can't. What makes them so special. You can’t play a game outside? I agree there should be lawsuits against politicians skirting the rules, but let’s be real, a lot of the people on this board for example are pretty much already doing “whatever they want” anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: You can’t play a game outside? I agree there should be lawsuits against politicians skirting the rules, but let’s be real, a lot of the people on this board for example are pretty much already doing “whatever they want” anyway. As they should... if you're not elderly in a nursing home and don't have a Democrat governor running your state, your chances of survival are extremely high, like around 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, drobeski said: As they should... Then why complain when others do the same thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 I just think it’s funny that the people criticizing politicians for skirting the rules are likely skirting the rules themselves... If you’re actually following the rules, go ahead and criticize. If not, you’re just as big of a hypocrite as the politicians IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I just think it’s funny that the people criticizing politicians for skirting the rules are likely skirting the rules themselves... If you’re actually following the rules, go ahead and criticize. If not, you’re just as big of a hypocrite as the politicians IMO Nah, they are making the rules... thats a big difference. You get that right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted November 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mr. Hand said: Common sense is something Iowa fans lack. Move along bugeater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I just think it’s funny that the people criticizing politicians for skirting the rules are likely skirting the rules themselves... If you’re actually following the rules, go ahead and criticize. If not, you’re just as big of a hypocrite as the politicians IMO Doesn't make sense what you are saying. A person isn't a hypocrite for calling out hypocrisy no matter what side they take on the issue. If I say I'm not going to wear a mask, but some lib politician says I should, and they don't wear them, he's the hypocrite. Not me. I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,693 Posted November 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I just think it’s funny that the people criticizing politicians for skirting the rules are likely skirting the rules themselves... If you’re actually following the rules, go ahead and criticize. If not, you’re just as big of a hypocrite as the politicians IMO Surely you see the difference between a guy saying, "that rule is stupid. I'm not following it, and fùck the people who foisted it upon me," and the guy who actually made the rule saying, "I know I've been saying people are going to die if they don't follow my rules, but fùck it. I'm above those plebes and the rules don't apply to me." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Doesn't make sense what you are saying. A person isn't a hypocrite for calling out hypocrisy no matter what side they take on the issue. If I say I'm not going to wear a mask, but some lib politician says I should, and they don't wear them, he's the hypocrite. Not me. I don't think you understand what the word hypocrite means. OK fair enough. But I don't see why the lib politician being a hypocrite makes it OK for everyone else not to follow the rules too. I mean it really just shows what we've been discussing...people will wear masks at the store, but not in private. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: OK fair enough. But I don't see why the lib politician being a hypocrite makes it OK for everyone else not to follow the rules too. I mean it really just shows what we've been discussing...people will wear masks at the store, but not in private. Because they are not getting fined or arrested that's why. Pelosi should have been fined and charged with a crime. If that happens sure. I would applaud it. Maybe they would stop doing stupid shLt all the time. And apply it to everyone. Sports, rioters, all gatherings. Want to get serious then let's get serious. Otherwise no. STFU. You no follow then I no follow an you no get charge then I no get charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,926 Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Because they are not getting fined or arrested that's why. Pelosi should have been fined and charged with a crime. If that happens sure. I would applaud it. Maybe they would stop doing stupid shLt all the time. And apply it to everyone. Sports, rioters, all gatherings. Want to get serious then let's get serious. Otherwise no. STFU. You no follow then I no follow an you no get charge then I no get charge. Yes I agree they should be getting fined if that is part of the law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,517 Posted November 18, 2020 57 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Gets me lockdown? What? Look, the amount of people testing positive is getting ridiculous right now. Something needs to change to slow it back down some. The general public can't be trusted to help so there needs to be some kind of leadership taken. I do not want a full shutdown but I am not against certain measures being taken to avoid that. It's not hard to wear a mask around others. It's not hard to avoid large gatherings. So, during a public health crisis, our leadership, the ones with the best, most accurate info, who are making policy based on that info from the experts, seem to think it’s just not that dangerous. Why would they risk their lives like that? Their families? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So, during a public health crisis, our leadership, the ones with the best, most accurate info, who are making policy based on that info from the experts, seem to think it’s just not that dangerous. Why would they risk their lives like that? Their families? Because they are not leaders. Their loyalty is only to a political front. Not to the government and not to the people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, TimHauck said: OK fair enough. But I don't see why the lib politician being a hypocrite makes it OK for everyone else not to follow the rules too. I mean it really just shows what we've been discussing...people will wear masks at the store, but not in private. Politicians are working to make rules and laws and mandates that they impose upon others, but not themselves. That is the definition of extreme socialism and ruling class hierarchy where the there is a definitely line drawn between those who "lead", and those who serve them. It's gross and these people should be held accountable and ousted immediately. pelosi gets busted, then says, fine, you want to call me out? I'll put you out of focking business. And she wins in the end with that mentality. I people can't see the problem with that, then we are losing hope in keeping this country in tact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: are you both that obtuse? Irony meter just exploded.. Hilarious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites