Coronavirus - Doomsday

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

40 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Would you consider yourself rural or suburban area?

Rural

[TimHauck 2,920]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

You watch Trump rallies.  I doubt it.

No but those Jordan Klepper videos are pretty funny.  I know he just picks out the dumbest people there but they usually have pretty good shots of the mostly maskless (maybe ~10%) crowds 

[Strike 5,593]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No but those Jordan Klepper videos are pretty funny.  I know he just picks out the dumbest people there but they usually have pretty good shots of the mostly maskless (maybe ~10%) crowds 

Have no idea who Jordan Klepper is but what I get from your post is you're judging Trump rallies by cherry picked highlights from I'm guessing someone who hates Trump.  Yeah, that's credible evidence right there!!!  Wanna see mine of liberals running around without masks stealing from stores and burning cities down? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Have no idea who Jordan Klepper is but what I get from your post is you're judging Trump rallies by cherry picked highlights from I'm guessing someone who hates Trump.  Yeah, that's credible evidence right there!!!  Wanna see mine of liberals running around without masks stealing from stores and burning cities down? 

What do you mean? TimHack voted for Trump! He’s so slick. 

[TimHauck 2,920]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What do you mean? TimHack voted for Trump! He’s so slick. 

That I did.

 

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Have no idea who Jordan Klepper is but what I get from your post is you're judging Trump rallies by cherry picked highlights from I'm guessing someone who hates Trump.  Yeah, that's credible evidence right there!!!  Wanna see mine of liberals running around without masks stealing from stores and burning cities down? 

They're 5-6 minute videos and he walks around a lot so seems like you get a pretty good sampling honestly.  It is mostly of before the rally has officially started though.

I forgot I did watch a few minutes of one actual rally though (which is a few minutes more than any Biden rally I watched), when he gave Dan Gable the Presidential Medal of Freedom.   But you could only see directly behind the podium.   Most of them were wearing masks but 90% of them were "MAGA" masks that were probably given to them because they knew they were going to be on camera.

[TimHauck 2,920]

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Trump rally attendees are a tiny percentage of our population.  Gauging mask wearing by attendees is worthless, even though a majority of attendees did have masks.  

But you're also saying that people are mostly spreading it in private?  Where's that data?

In terms of hard data, this is probably the best we have from the CDC with it being completed in May, but of people who knew they were exposed to an infected individual, it was most often a family member (unfortunately it doesn't specify how many were family members they lived with or not): https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6926e3.htm?s_cid=mm6926e3_w

In Germany which probably has better data than here, recently private homes are far and away the #1 source of traceable infections: https://www.dw.com/en/where-do-people-get-infected-with-the-coronavirus/a-55444445

 

You really think 99% of people are wearing masks?

[nobody 2,692]

So, do you think people are going to someone's home, getting covid, and bringing it back to their house?  How does the covid get to the house?

[TimHauck 2,920]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

So, do you think people are going to someone's home, getting covid, and bringing it back to their house?  How does the covid get to the house?

I think that is happening yes.  Or for example both a husband and wife attend a "gathering" and they both get it there.

To clarify I don't necessarily think this is where the majority of spread in total is happening, but I think in most situations where it is spread via social gatherings, people aren't wearing masks (since even most pro-maskers know that a mask is not a covid forcefield, so yes some people are still getting it elsewhere despite wearing masks)

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

10 hours ago, nobody said:

So, do you think people are going to someone's home, getting covid, and bringing it back to their house?  How does the covid get to the house?

Absolutely.  People are still getting together.  They are still celebrating holidays, having birthday parties, having drinks after work...

[Fireballer 2,643]

So we now know Covid was here at least in December, and probably before the first case in China was official, from the testing of blood in blood banks. This is such bullsh!t.  Testing the blood supply is something you do early in a pandemic.  I'm convinced now my wife and I had this sh!t in February.

[drobeski 3,061]

38 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Absolutely.  People are still getting together.  They are still celebrating holidays, having birthday parties, having drinks after work...

Good for them. 

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

This is interesting. 

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced new quarantine guidelines for people who were exposed to coronavirus, reducing the length of time from 14 days to 10 days without symptoms or seven days with no symptoms and a negative test. Officials said the shorter time period is intended to encourage more people to quarantine. 

"Reducing the length of quarantine may encourage more people to do so, especially when they may not be able to work during quarantine time," CDC's COVID-19 Incident Manager, Dr. Henry Walke, told reporters on a call Wednesday. He said the agency still recommends 14 days, but is now offering two "acceptable alternative quarantine periods." 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-reduces-quarantine-time-two-185412615.html

[TimHauck 2,920]

2 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Good for them. 

Agree, but it’s not like 99% of them are wearing masks 

[drobeski 3,061]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Agree, but it’s not like 99% of them are wearing masks 

Even better.

[wiffleball 4,790]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

So we now know Covid was here at least in December, and probably before the first case in China was official, from the testing of blood in blood banks. This is such bullsh!t.  Testing the blood supply is something you do early in a pandemic.  I'm convinced now my wife and I had this sh!t in February.

Well your wife gave me something, but I don't think it was covid.

[Strike 5,593]

1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

Well your wife gave me something, but I don't think it was covid.

Apparently it was a heart/blood ailment.

[Cdub100 3,934]

I'm still missing the great medical breakthrough just discovered this year how a piece of cloth over one's face prevents viruses from getting in or out.

Whom ever discovered this brand new medical break through should get a Nobel medal.

[tanatastic 2,062]

https://www.communitymedical.org/CMC/media/coronavirus/Exposure-and-Masking-Infographic_English.pdf
here’s a simple mask graphic showing the 1st grade level logic behind how barriers can keep droplets closer to ones self vs not having a barrier. No this is not “democrat propaganda designed to trick you and steal your guns and rights.” Its basic logic I dont need a scientist to validate. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I'm still missing the great medical breakthrough just discovered this year how a piece of cloth over one's face prevents viruses from getting in or out.

Whom ever discovered this brand new medical break through should get a Nobel medal.

You just can't comprehend anything can you?  No person, at least no smart person, is claiming that a cloth mask prevents a virus from getting in or out of your face.  The logic is that a mask is useful in reducing the spread of droplets that contain the virus, and reducing your viral load reduces the chances of a severe infection, which reduces the chance of spreading, etc.

It's basic common sense that you are incapable of grasping.  fock.

[TimHauck 2,920]

14 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I'm still missing the great medical breakthrough just discovered this year how a piece of cloth over one's face prevents viruses from getting in or out.

Whom ever discovered this brand new medical break through should get a Nobel medal.

Agreed, as tanatastic pointed out, it’s pretty much common sense, shouldn’t take a PhD to figure out.   I know I used this Mitch Hedberg joke in this thread already but it seems relevant again here.

”Dr. Scholl went to school for a very long time.  But it doesn’t take a lot to figure out that stepping on a cushion would be more comfortable.”

Just like it doesn’t take a lot to figure out that putting something over your face will result in less stuff getting in or out.

[Fireballer 2,643]

27 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I'm still missing the great medical breakthrough just discovered this year how a piece of cloth over one's face prevents viruses from getting in or out.

 

There are no breakthroughs.   Over the years, there have been countless tests on the efficacy of a variety of face coverings protecting against viral respiratory illnesses.  Fauci was right in March, and his statements have nothing to do with a shortage for Healthcare providers.  All he had to do was say "people should wear a face covering to protect others". But he didn't because he knows its bullshat. All he had to say was "somethings better than nothing". But he didnt. If you really wanna educate yourself, go read studies that are pre-Covid.  Any study in the last 10 months will probably be erring on the side of propaganda.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

36 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Agreed, as tanatastic pointed out, it’s pretty much common sense, shouldn’t take a PhD to figure out.   I know I used this Mitch Hedberg joke in this thread already but it seems relevant again here.

”Dr. Scholl went to school for a very long time.  But it doesn’t take a lot to figure out that stepping on a cushion would be more comfortable.”

Just like it doesn’t take a lot to figure out that putting something over your face will result in less stuff getting in or out.

Why did Fauci tell us not to? If it’s such a simple thing. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Why have we been told since childhood that we should cover our mouths when we cough or sneeze?

[Fireballer 2,643]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Why have we been told since childhood that we should cover our mouths when we cough or sneeze?

Because people don't like to be sneezed on or coughed on.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Because people don't like to be sneezed on or coughed on.

Don’t you think they don’t like it when people won’t wear a mask during a pandemic too?  Isn’t it all meant to help prevent the spread of germs?

[Fireballer 2,643]

I love these videos.  I struggle to believe an actual MD is doing this.

 

[Fireballer 2,643]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

 Isn’t it all meant to help prevent the spread of germs?

Well yeah, if a face covering was effective in preventing the spread of germs. How many .03 microns of Covid do you think is being caught by a face covering? 

[Fireballer 2,643]

I also love how the CDC has said that Covid face coverings aren't effective against wildfire smoke, yet smoke particles are a gazillion times larger than Covid.

[RLLD 4,254]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I also love how the CDC has said that Covid face coverings aren't effective against wildfire smoke, yet smoke particles are a gazillion times larger than Covid.

I think the main purpose of the mask is to attempt to lessen the amount of COVID particles that you as the individual project out, but not to protect you.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

10 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I also love how the CDC has said that Covid face coverings aren't effective against wildfire smoke, yet smoke particles are a gazillion times larger than Covid.

Yet someone in a room full of smoke would still put their shirt or something over their face to help prevent too much smoke inhalation.

[Fireballer 2,643]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Yet someone in a room full of smoke would still put their shirt or something over their face to help prevent too much smoke inhalation.

Which would be an instinctive action that achieves nothing.  

 

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think the main purpose of the mask is to attempt to lessen the amount of COVID particles that you as the individual project out, but not to protect you.

Correct, that's the assertion.  But cloth face coverings are equally as permeable both ways.  If its ineffective keeping stuff out, its ineffective keeping it in.  

[drobeski 3,061]

Don't forget,  use anything you want and just toss that highly contagious with deadly virus fce covering anywhere the fock you want! It's that bad!

[Fireballer 2,643]

2 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Don't forget,  use anything you want and just toss that highly contagious with deadly virus fce covering anywhere the fock you want! It's that bad!

[TimHauck 2,920]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why did Fauci tell us not to? If it’s such a simple thing. 

Even back then he said it was moreso for people that were actually sick, and we didn't know as much about the possibility for presymptomatic/asymptomatic spread then.   In addition, there were very few known cases when he said that, so in theory if we didn't think the disease was very prevalent, then most of those people wearing masks wasn't going to do anything since there wasn't much to catch (we thought at least).    So yeah, if everyone wore them then it probably would have helped, unfortunately the supply shortage made that pretty much impossible.   

[TimHauck 2,920]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

I love these videos.  I struggle to believe an actual MD is doing this.

 

Why is it hard to believe?   It's to make it simple so even idiots like you can understand.  Apparently it didn't work.

 

40 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Which would be an instinctive action that achieves nothing.  

 

Correct, that's the assertion.  But cloth face coverings are equally as permeable both ways.  If its ineffective keeping stuff out, its ineffective keeping it in.  

You literally just posted a video of a guy who couldn't blow out a candle with a mask on, and then minutes later say it's ineffective at keeping stuff in???

[Fireballer 2,643]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Why is it hard to believe?   It's to make it simple so even idiots like you can understand.  Apparently it didn't work.

 

You literally just posted a video of a guy who couldn't blow out a candle with a mask on, and then minutes later say it's ineffective at keeping stuff in???

Omg...you think all of that sh!t is staying IN his mask?  LMAO.  Its just not being directed to the flame in a volume to extinguish it.  What do you think happens, the mask inflates more with each breath?  JFC...

[TimHauck 2,920]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Omg...you think all of that sh!t is staying IN his mask?  LMAO

Not all of it.   But some obviously.

[lod001 1,344]

5 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

This is interesting. 

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-reduces-quarantine-time-two-185412615.html

Slowly weaning the public off the fakeness of the virus.  

Wait until the 'we have added the covid vaccine to the normal flu vaccine'.  'One shot does it all.'

[GutterBoy 2,899]

10 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Slowly weaning the public off the fakeness of the virus.  

Wait until the 'we have added the covid vaccine to the normal flu vaccine'.  'One shot does it all.'

Wait, you believe the virus is fake?

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Wait, you believe the virus is fake?

It's just the flu, he'll tell you.