drobeski 3,061 Posted December 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's just the flu, he'll tell you. Do you wear cloth of disposable mask ? What do you do with it when done ? Hermetically sealed and properly disposed of, right ? I hope so ! It's a deadly highly contagious super virus! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, drobeski said: Do you wear cloth of disposable mask ? What do you do with it when done ? Hermetically sealed and properly disposed of, right ? I hope so ! It's a deadly highly contagious super virus! Why would I need to do all that? It's just the flu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Wait, you believe the virus is fake? 9 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's just the flu, he'll tell you. A bad flu that will kill the fat and unhealthy of this nation. We are not a nation of fat, out of shape losers with comorbidities. Ticking timebombs and their time is up. Then add in all the mis-classified deaths in the name of $ for hospitals and that's where we are. I've already explained that the # who have had this is easily double reported (says CDC) and more like 8x the number reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Why would I need to do all that? It's just the flu. Unless you are fatty with health problems. Then you may want to order a casket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, lod001 said: Unless you are fatty with health problems. Then you may want to order a casket. Why? It's just the flu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,515 Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, lod001 said: Unless you are fatty with health problems. Then you may want to order a casket. Iowa is one of the fatter states. You can see why he’s concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Iowa is one of the fatter states. You can see why he’s concerned. I'm not concerned, plus, I've already had COVID and recovered. I'm pretty sure Iowa is about average. Somewhere in the middle of the most obese states. The SE states hold the tile for fattest people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted December 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Why would I need to do all that? It's just the flu. Now you get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 3, 2020 After experiencing both, I'd rather have Covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, lod001 said: A bad flu that will kill the fat and unhealthy of this nation. We are not a nation of fat, out of shape losers with comorbidities. Ticking timebombs and their time is up. Then add in all the mis-classified deaths in the name of $ for hospitals and that's where we are. I've already explained that the # who have had this is easily double reported (says CDC) and more like 8x the number reported. So the 300k additional deaths vs last year were all fat and unhealthy right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, drobeski said: Do you wear cloth of disposable mask ? What do you do with it when done ? Hermetically sealed and properly disposed of, right ? I hope so ! It's a deadly highly contagious super virus! Contrary to some of the initial reports, seems like it dies pretty quickly on surfaces, at least enough so that it’s not contagious. A dirty mask might get bacteria on it, but bacteria is different than viruses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted December 3, 2020 My dad was just admitted about 2 hours ago. Dr said he was one of the worst patients he'd seen. CT of the lungs were "awful". He was in Atrial fib. Labs were "awful". He's 76 with multiple underlying conditions. 50/50. He's getting Resdemivir and plasma with a slew of other vitamins. Touch and go. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,400 Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, crackattack said: My dad was just admitted about 2 hours ago. Dr said he was one of the worst patients he'd seen. CT of the lungs were "awful". He was in Atrial fib. Labs were "awful". He's 76 with multiple underlying conditions. 50/50. He's getting Resdemivir and plasma with a slew of other vitamins. Touch and go. Sorry to hear. Hopefully he pulls through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Sorry to hear. Hopefully he pulls through. Thanks. He's had 3 heart attacks. Triple bypass. He's overweight. Borderline diabetic. He's dodged the bullet a few times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted December 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Contrary to some of the initial reports, seems like it dies pretty quickly on surfaces, at least enough so that it’s not contagious. A dirty mask might get bacteria on it, but bacteria is different than viruses. CDC still says surface contact is a way to spread it just not the main way. Saying a Covid mask just "gets bacteria" on it would be a stretch, no? The main route is through blasts of .03 micron Covid through openings in cloth masks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, crackattack said: My dad was just admitted about 2 hours ago. Dr said he was one of the worst patients he'd seen. CT of the lungs were "awful". He was in Atrial fib. Labs were "awful". He's 76 with multiple underlying conditions. 50/50. He's getting Resdemivir and plasma with a slew of other vitamins. Touch and go. Godspeed to him 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fireballer said: CDC still says surface contact is a way to spread it just not the main way. Saying a Covid mask just "gets bacteria" on it would be a stretch, no? The main route is through blasts of .03 micron Covid through openings in cloth masks. I didn’t say ALL masks just get bacteria, I was talking about dirty unwashed ones or people using surgical masks more than once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted December 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I didn’t say ALL masks just get bacteria, I was talking about dirty unwashed ones or people using surgical masks more than once No, but you were dismissing discarded masks as a form of Covid transmission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, crackattack said: My dad was just admitted about 2 hours ago. Dr said he was one of the worst patients he'd seen. CT of the lungs were "awful". He was in Atrial fib. Labs were "awful". He's 76 with multiple underlying conditions. 50/50. He's getting Resdemivir and plasma with a slew of other vitamins. Touch and go. Just curious and not to be insensitive, but did your dad wear a mask? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: So the 300k additional deaths vs last year were all fat and unhealthy right? There have been less deaths this year than any of the last 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363 Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, crackattack said: My dad was just admitted about 2 hours ago. Dr said he was one of the worst patients he'd seen. CT of the lungs were "awful". He was in Atrial fib. Labs were "awful". He's 76 with multiple underlying conditions. 50/50. He's getting Resdemivir and plasma with a slew of other vitamins. Touch and go. Sorry to hear 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted December 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Just curious and not to be insensitive, but did your dad wear a mask? Would you just cut the sh!t you stupid little fock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: There have been less deaths this year than any of the last 3 years. Has there? Didn't we just discuss a study posted here that deaths were on par as the previous year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: No, but you were dismissing discarded masks as a form of Covid transmission. Ok yes I’d agree that that’s what I was getting at. The risk of transmission via surfaces is low to begin with, and for the most part, people only touch their own dirty unwashed mask, not anyone else’s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: There have been less deaths this year than any of the last 3 years. Lol wut. Where in tarnation would you get that idea? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted December 4, 2020 34 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Has there? Didn't we just discuss a study posted here that deaths were on par as the previous year? Johns Hopkins pulled the study. There was an article by some students attempting to debunk it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Johns Hopkins pulled the study. No they didn’t. The “study” (webinar) is still available, unedited. They retracted an article based on the webinar, which is also still available. The webinar was bad though. She literally showed a graph showing how there was a huge spike in deaths this year, yet somehow concluded they were “about the same” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: No they didn’t. The “study” (webinar) is still available, unedited. They retracted an article based on the webinar, which is also still available. The webinar was bad though. She literally showed a graph showing how there was a huge spike in deaths this year, yet somehow concluded they were “about the same” You can have a huge spike and then end up at the same average number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted December 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Cdub100 said: Just curious and not to be insensitive, but did your dad wear a mask? Not often. But to be honest, he doesn't leave their house often. He has terrible back issues and uses a walker. My mom gave it to him. She got it from a group of ladies she plays cards monthly with. She uses a mask in public, but not at her card party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 4, 2020 5 hours ago, TimHauck said: Contrary to some of the initial reports, seems like it dies pretty quickly on surfaces, at least enough so that it’s not contagious. A dirty mask might get bacteria on it, but bacteria is different than viruses. Cool story... is it in our spit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: You can have a huge spike and then end up at the same average number. You can, but that's not what happened, and is evident in the chart she showed in the webinar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: You can have a huge spike and then end up at the same average number. Anyone who even has a basic understanding of an integral knows that graph didn't show the same number of deaths as previous years looking at it for 2 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, drobeski said: Cool story... is in our spit? This infectious disease doctor interviewed by Runner's World says it can be - https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a31470786/spit-snot-etiquette-for-runners-coronavirus/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,692 Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, nobody said: Anyone who even has a basic understanding of an integral knows that graph didn't show the same number of deaths as previous years looking at it for 2 seconds. This is actually a good answer to kids when they ask, "Why do I need to know this stuff?" You need to know this so when you grow up to become some economist at John Hopkins, you don't look like a focking idiot. Seriously, how can anyone possibly look at that graph and conclude deaths are anywhere close to what they were in recent years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted December 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, nobody said: This is actually a good answer to kids when they ask, "Why do I need to know this stuff?" You need to know this so when you grow up to become some economist at John Hopkins, you don't look like a focking idiot. Seriously, how can anyone possibly look at that graph and conclude deaths are anywhere close to what they were in recent years? LOL yeah she basically tried to do some crude rounding and say, "eh, they're about the same." She literally had a line on a slide that said "Normal Number of all deaths per week: 60,000." According to the CDC the average weekly deaths in 2019 were less than 55,000 (source: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-Select-Causes/muzy-jte6/data) so I guess she was rounding it up to an even 60,000. This year it's been over 61,500 through 45 weeks, which can round down to 60,000. See, about the same! But even if we call it 61,000 to be conservative, that's an increase of 6,000 PER WEEK. Over 52 weeks, well what do you know, that's 312,000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Cdub100 said: Now you get it. Never thought he would come around, but after experiencing it, I think he finally gets it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted December 4, 2020 8 hours ago, crackattack said: Not often. But to be honest, he doesn't leave their house often. He has terrible back issues and uses a walker. My mom gave it to him. She got it from a group of ladies she plays cards monthly with. She uses a mask in public, but not at her card party. Makes sense. Thanks for sharing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,995 Posted December 4, 2020 Biden's had the plan to get rid of this virus all along. Has he implemented it yet, or is he letting all these people continue to die until he is sworn in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 4, 2020 8 hours ago, TimHauck said: This infectious disease doctor interviewed by Runner's World says it can be - https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a31470786/spit-snot-etiquette-for-runners-coronavirus/ Can they test your spit for it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted December 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, drobeski said: Can they test your spit for it ? Yes, there are saliva tests Share this post Link to post Share on other sites