Coronavirus - Doomsday

[lod001 1,344]

18 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I said I’d believe it if Ivermectin showed some promise, but falsifying studies isn’t going to help it’s case:

 

 

 

Probably falsified on purpose, in cahoots with drug companies, in order to try and discredit Ivermectin. If any drug is shown to stop covid in its tracks the jabs house of cards comes crashing down. 

Now for the real studies. https://c19ivermectin.com/

https://trialsitenews.com/top-yale-doctor-researcher-ivermectin-works-including-for-long-haul-covid/

[lod001 1,344]

So far 3 of the D jackasses that flew to Washington from TX have developed covid. They all were double jabbed.

Further proof the jab doesn't work. 

[phillybear 366]

On 7/14/2021 at 10:24 PM, TimHauck said:

But I don't buy that 10k people have died from the vaccine. 

When I'm wrong, I am man enough to admit it.

It's 11K. Officially.

FACE.

Beep. Beep. Here comes the Vaccine Fayle Dozer.

 

[lod001 1,344]

 

11 minutes ago, phillybear said:

When I'm wrong, I am man enough to admit it.

It's 11K. Officially.

FACE.

Beep. Beep. Here comes the Vaccine Fayle Dozer.

 

That's ok. I KNOW that 600k didn't die from covid. More like the normal 50k+ from a flu like virus. The bottom line is that people are dying at record rates from these failed 'vaccines'....which really are not vaccines and really are incredible failures. Healthy people are dying from stupidly taking the vax. Fatties and unhealthy die from Covid.

https://greatgameindia.com/lisbon-court-death-covid-cases/

[TimHauck 2,929]

12 minutes ago, lod001 said:

 

That's ok. I KNOW that 600k didn't die from covid. More like the normal 50k+ from a flu like virus. The bottom line is that people are dying at record rates from these failed 'vaccines'....which really are not vaccines and really are incredible failures. Healthy people are dying from stupidly taking the vax. Fatties and unhealthy die from Covid.

https://greatgameindia.com/lisbon-court-death-covid-cases/

Fake news

https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2021-07-09/covid-death-numbers-controversy/60916

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fake news

https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2021-07-09/covid-death-numbers-controversy/60916

 

Why would you post it then? 

[lod001 1,344]

20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fake news

https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2021-07-09/covid-death-numbers-controversy/60916

 

Yeah, you posted the fake news. You really need to wake the fock up.

You probably think the 'fact checker' sites are legit. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

2 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Yeah, you posted the fake news. You really need to wake the fock up.

You probably think the 'fact checker' sites are legit. 

It says exactly why your “0.9%” was fake.  The 152 death certificates were only from one source, when most death certificates don’t come from that source.

Not sure why I bother, you apparently think it’s possible that 1 million people in the US have died from the vaccine.   

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Yeah, you posted the fake news. You really need to wake the fock up.

You probably think the 'fact checker' sites are legit. 

Yeah. And now "fact checking" is coming from government directives. It's not right.

[TimHauck 2,929]

27 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Yeah. And now "fact checking" is coming from government directives. It's not right.

So you and lod just believe everything you read from the far corners of the internet?

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So you and lod just believe everything you read from the far corners of the internet?

Far corners? I'm hearing it live when the president's press secretary says they are working with social media platforms to eliminate "disinformation". Their version of it that is.

What dark corners are you going to for your info?

[TimHauck 2,929]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Far corners? I'm hearing it live when the president's press secretary says they are working with social media platforms to eliminate "disinformation". Their version of it that is.

What dark corners are you going to for your info?

I was referring to “greatgameindia.com”

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I was referring to “greatgameindia.com”

I don't know what that is. Could be someone trying to avoid cancel culture or being banned, or whatever.

The government is coming out and saying they are going against free speech. And that is exactly what they are doing.

Never seen that site. I just listen to what is coming out of the mouths of creepy joe, kameltoe, nasty pelosi, aoc, tliab, waters, sanders etc. and a whole group of libs and react to that.  

[TimHauck 2,929]

1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

I don't know what that is. Could be someone trying to avoid cancel culture or being banned, or whatever.

The government is coming out and saying they are going against free speech. And that is exactly what they are doing.

Never seen that site. I just listen to what is coming out of the mouths of creepy joe, kameltoe, nasty pelosi, aoc, tliab, waters, sanders etc. and a whole group of libs and react to that.  

Ok cool.  I was only referring to greatgameindia.com, which apparently also thinks that China “stole covid from Canada.”

I know other sites published that Lisbon 0.9% thing, but lod clearly must read it.  And of course doesn’t change the fact that the claim is false.

[TimHauck 2,929]

7 hours ago, lod001 said:

Probably falsified on purpose, in cahoots with drug companies, in order to try and discredit Ivermectin. If any drug is shown to stop covid in its tracks the jabs house of cards comes crashing down. 

Now for the real studies. https://c19ivermectin.com/

https://trialsitenews.com/top-yale-doctor-researcher-ivermectin-works-including-for-long-haul-covid/

Actually your hero is still backing it:

 

 

But apparently a lot of those “studies” you reference are meta analyses, where this one study apparently had a major impact.  This guy has written a lot about this study:

 

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

It’s a one person study but I took ivermectin and recovered. I was hospitalized when I took it

[fandandy 3,313]

On 7/11/2021 at 10:43 PM, phillybear said:

By coincidence, the three countries that refused vaccines for their people, Haiti and Burundi and Tanzania, well all three nation's leaders are suddenly dead. They didn't even try to cover up the Haiti murder. Dead, so dead.

https://noqreport.com/2021/07/18/three-presidents-who-opposed-covid-vaccines-have-conveniently-died-replaced-by-pro-vaxxers/

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

26 minutes ago, fandandy said:

https://noqreport.com/2021/07/18/three-presidents-who-opposed-covid-vaccines-have-conveniently-died-replaced-by-pro-vaxxers/

Clearly nothing to see here just some of that alt right facts

[TimHauck 2,929]

32 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Clearly nothing to see here just some of that alt right facts

Yeah pretty much.

This junk was already posted earlier.

One of the three died in June 2020, before the vaccines.

Two of the three may have died OF covid, so the only conspiracy may be their governments’ covering that up.

And paging Reality, he says we’re not allowed to talk about Haiti and covid, so surely I assume that means he agrees it’s highly unlikely the Haiti president’s death had anything to do with covid vaccines.  Especially because they didn’t even refuse “the vaccine,” they just didn’t want the AstraZeneca.

[TimHauck 2,929]

13 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

It’s a one person study but I took ivermectin and recovered. I was hospitalized when I took it

Maybe I’m misremembering, but weren’t you talking earlier about “trusting your immune system” or something?  Why would you need Ivermectin if you have an immune system?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

44 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Maybe I’m misremembering, but weren’t you talking earlier about “trusting your immune system” or something?  Why would you need Ivermectin if you have an immune system?

Yep I fully believe in trusting my immune system but I also believe in medicine that has been tried and true and has no severe side affects. That’s why I asked my doctor. I also believe in penicillin and amoxicillin to help speed up recovery. I don’t believe in taking a vaccine that hasn’t had long term studies nor do I believe in taking a vaccine for something my body has natural immunity for. Ivermectin wasn’t about giving me immunities as that’s not what it was prescribed for 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Help!!! I think I'm dying of the chinese virus!!!! I coughed an hour or so ago from a bit of cracker. Should I check into the ICU with chinese flu???????

Please help.

[TimHauck 2,929]

7 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yep I fully believe in trusting my immune system but I also believe in medicine that has been tried and true and has no severe side affects. That’s why I asked my doctor. I also believe in penicillin and amoxicillin to help speed up recovery. I don’t believe in taking a vaccine that hasn’t had long term studies nor do I believe in taking a vaccine for something my body has natural immunity for. Ivermectin wasn’t about giving me immunities as that’s not what it was prescribed for 

Fair enough, that’s better than people saying “I’ll just trust my immune system” when they haven’t even gotten covid yet

[lod001 1,344]

On 7/17/2021 at 7:09 PM, TimHauck said:

It says exactly why your “0.9%” was fake.  The 152 death certificates were only from one source, when most death certificates don’t come from that source.

Not sure why I bother, you apparently think it’s possible that 1 million people in the US have died from the vaccine.   

I know we are into the 10's of 1000s dead from the jab. VAERS is at 10000 and that is low balled, guaranteed. Adverse effects in the 100,000s. Those are just the reported ones and that is ALWAYS low.

As far as you attempting to debunk the previous link. 1 of many links to the fake numbers.

https://abc7news.com/covid-death-count-alameda-county-deaths-19-cases/10755419/  They are saying 400 faked so you know its way more than that.

There's a phrase called 'where there's smoke there's fire'. 

You believe the BS fauci & the mainstream media shovels into your mouth. Fine. I know it's lies to keep this BS going. I told you the numbers were a lie and the above, busted Alemeda county proves it. They include car accidents, just like I told you they were.

Keep believing that mainstream media BS. The longer we go, the bigger the failure of these 'vaxxes' will become. 2 are already complete failures. The only reason the other 2 are not yet is there is too much $ being made and they have to have something to keep the BS going.

 

[TimHauck 2,929]

9 minutes ago, lod001 said:

I know we are into the 10's of 1000s dead from the jab. VAERS is at 10000 and that is low balled, guaranteed. Adverse effects in the 100,000s. Those are just the reported ones and that is ALWAYS low.

As far as you attempting to debunk the previous link. 1 of many links to the fake numbers.

https://abc7news.com/covid-death-count-alameda-county-deaths-19-cases/10755419/  They are saying 400 faked so you know its way more than that.

There's a phrase called 'where there's smoke there's fire'. 

You believe the BS fauci & the mainstream media shovels into your mouth. Fine. I know it's lies to keep this BS going. I told you the numbers were a lie and the above, busted Alemeda county proves it. They include car accidents, just like I told you they were.

Keep believing that mainstream media BS. The longer we go, the bigger the failure of these 'vaxxes' will become. 2 are already complete failures. The only reason the other 2 are not yet is there is too much $ being made and they have to have something to keep the BS going.

 

Already addressed the Alameda County "story: - 

 

 

The number that I've seen even guys like Berenson share is that 10% of reports are filed with VAERS.   But that's usually referring to headaches and stuff, I'm sure the % of reports for deaths after the vaccine is much higher.   Which even if that's the case (and of course that's only deaths after the vaccine, not knowing how many were actually due to the vaccine). 10k x 10 = 100k, not 1 million.  Math is hard.  

I really don't understand why people want the vaccines to fail?   Everyone's goal should be the same thing.  To end the pandemic.   The vaccines are our best way of doing that, short of having over 1 million covid deaths in the US of course.   IMO the biggest issue now is we may be able to mostly end the pandemic in the US thanks to the vaccines, however we need to get vaccines to other countries in order to give the virus less chance to spread and mutate across the world.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

France, have your papers or 6 months in jail

 

[Fireballer 2,643]

Are we equally accepting of the numbers of  "deaths from vax" as we are"deaths from Covid"? 

It would be nice if we"re talking apples to apples here.  I mean, it would be good if some regulating agency came out and said any post vax death would be assumed to be from the Vax so we have an even playing field to assess which is more dangerous.

[easilyscan 936]

This is getting more & more interesting. 
Earlier today on CNBC, a reporter stated that in the UK, 60% of new hospitalizations were already fully vaccinated.

When the reporter sent it back to the anchor, she questioned it. "was it a small sample size, something else to account for those results" 

The reporter didn't have an answer ?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

8 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

This is getting more & more interesting. 
Earlier today on CNBC, a reporter stated that in the UK, 60% of new hospitalizations were already fully vaccinated.

When the reporter sent it back to the anchor, she questioned it. "was it a small sample size, something else to account for those results" 

The reporter didn't have an answer ?

Actually the refusal of the press to report on this is keeping the US open for business.  Probably comes from the top.

[porkbutt 893]

9 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Fair enough, that’s better than people saying “I’ll just trust my immune system” when they haven’t even gotten covid yet

why? some people aren't scared.

[TimHauck 2,929]

25 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

This is getting more & more interesting. 
Earlier today on CNBC, a reporter stated that in the UK, 60% of new hospitalizations were already fully vaccinated.

When the reporter sent it back to the anchor, she questioned it. "was it a small sample size, something else to account for those results" 

The reporter didn't have an answer ?

The answer is that ~95% of the most vulnerable population (50+) is already vaccinated.   In other words, the vaccines are working.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56849874

 

[TimHauck 2,929]

Oh and also this:

 

 

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Oh and also this:

 

 

Means 40% are vaccinated, that's still a troublesome number. Hopefully the numbers are down because of the vaccine but, still seems to be a coin flip.

Not sure how somebody could present that number as good news....

[TimHauck 2,929]

11 minutes ago, Reality said:

Means 40% are vaccinated, that's still a troublesome number. Hopefully the numbers are down because of the vaccine but, still seems to be a coin flip.

Not sure how somebody could present that number as good news....

I already said, because ~95% of 50+ are vaccinated.    You’re really just embarrassing yourself at this point.

[TimHauck 2,929]

1 hour ago, porkbutt said:

why? some people aren't scared.

Promise not to go to the hospital if you get it?

[porkbutt 893]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Promise not to go to the hospital if you get it?

had it....did not go.

what do you care if i go to hospital anyway???????? wtf

[Reality 3,121]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I already said, because ~95% of 50+ are vaccinated.    You’re really just embarrassing yourself at this point.

Umm cool, still a bummer that vaccinated folks are being hospitalized because of Covid.

Carry on with whatever dumb point you think you're making.

[TimHauck 2,929]

4 hours ago, Reality said:

Umm cool, still a bummer that vaccinated folks are being hospitalized because of Covid.

Carry on with whatever dumb point you think you're making.

It is a bummer, but it still means the vaccine is extremely effective at preventing severe disease (albeit slightly less than it is against the "Alpha" strain), and certainly doesn't mean there is a "complete vaccine failure on every level" as a certain hack former NY Times writer would have you believe.

Here is the refresher course I gave to Timmy when he thought the UK numbers meant that the vaccines weren't working.  And this was even based on 65% of the deaths among 50+ year olds being in vaccinated people:

On 6/29/2021 at 9:37 PM, TimHauck said:

Well hot damn, just saw this saying 95% of the 50+ in England had been vaccinated...in April.  I know England isn’t all of the UK but I think it’s safe to assume the U.K. is at 95% 2 months later - https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56849874

So updating the math:

38 unvaccinated deaths / 50 people = 76%

71 vaccinated deaths / 950 people =  7.5%

76% - 7.5% = 68.5%

68.5% / 76% = 90% effective

Thanks for playing though Timmy

 

[Reality 3,121]

10 hours ago, TimHauck said:

It is a bummer, but it still means the vaccine is extremely effective at preventing severe disease (albeit slightly less than it is against the "Alpha" strain), and certainly doesn't mean there is a "complete vaccine failure on every level" as a certain hack former NY Times writer would have you believe.

Here is the refresher course I gave to Timmy when he thought the UK numbers meant that the vaccines weren't working.  And this was even based on 65% of the deaths among 50+ year olds being in vaccinated people:

 

Ending up in the hospital because of Covid means it's severe. Almost half of those folks are vaccinated.

The rest of your post is trying to put words in my mouth, stop projecting issues you have with other posters on to me. You lose what little credibility you have left when you do those sort of things. You should consider taking a break, this stuff has consumed you.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

15 hours ago, Reality said:

Means 40% are vaccinated, that's still a troublesome number. Hopefully the numbers are down because of the vaccine but, still seems to be a coin flip.

Not sure how somebody could present that number as good news....

 

18 minutes ago, Reality said:

Ending up in the hospital because of Covid means it's severe. Almost half of those folks are vaccinated.

The rest of your post is trying to put words in my mouth, stop projecting issues you have with other posters on to me. You lose what little credibility you have left when you do those sort of things. You should consider taking a break, this stuff has consumed you.

 

The vaccination rate for adults in the UK is ~90%.

 

For the sake of illustration, I will use some approximate numbers, but in the end the math almost works out, the vaccine is slightly better than these numbers because i end up with a 47% of the hospitalized being vaxxed instead of 40%. 

There are 10,000 people in our community.  Among the non-vaccinated, 1% will be hospitalized with covid.  Among the vaccinated, only 0.1% will be hospitalized. This is a 90% reduction in hospitalization rate, so why are there so many people that are vaccinated in the hospital???

Well, there are 9,000 vaccinated people.  0.1% of them land in the hospital.  9,000 x 0.001 = 9 poor folks in the ICU despite being double-jabbed.

There are 1,000 unvaccinated people, and 1% of them will be hospitalized.  That's 1,000 x .01 = 10 anti-vaxxers regretting their medical decisions.  

19 people are in the hospital.  9 of them are fully vaccinated -- 47%!  In my example, the vaccine is 90% effective, but vaccinated folks make up about half of all hospital admissions.   

 

 

TLDR:

It is because of the much larger pool of people that are vaccinated. The numbers out of UK are very promising on the efficiency of the vaccine.